Middle-aged, short, bald = 3 strikes?

[Anela]

I was attracted to a short, bald guy, late-ish thirties. I'm a fringe female, though, so I apparently don't count.

[ThaWholigan]

Perhaps it's because I don't read as many threads as I used to, but I've noticed that your posts in response to anyone making an observation about our dating world is, "I'm better than you because I don't whine and so you shouldn't whine either." I still agree with what you believe in, but it's just coming across as a bit pretentious is all. I don't see as much intelligible discussion from you as I used to.

 

There is a reason for that to be honest.

 

I don't consider myself "better" than anyone, but at the same time, I believe some of the guys here can benefit from seeing things at least partly the way I do. I feel that way because thinking the way they do now does nothing for them except perpetuate their misery, and if they really liked being miserable they wouldn't have so much to say about it, in fact I could continue to have my usual "intelligible discussions" that I normally like to have with them because at least there would be more acceptance, more willingness to have a coherent debate and less pseudo-rants. In fact, I noticed that I have been posting numerous pseudo-rants of my own in retaliation!

 

The big problem I have is that it gets boring trying to have an intelligible discussion with "Only looks matter", "Only jerks/assh*les get the girl", "Men watch too much porn", "Short guys don't get laid" etc etc etc. Even the "Indian male" threads are less annoying . This is as much a place of advice as it is a place to vent. Therefore I try to give as much advice as I can. I would even give advice I don't personally agree with if I thought it would help the person to get what they want/need and be happier or the advice that would truly help them. But if you only want to vent, then it gets tiring. I think maybe if I have nothing better to say I should just put them all on ignore. But before then, they should really listen to what I have to say. Because as much as everybody says "Wholigan is tall/etc, he had nothing to whine about anyway", I was as much a f*ck-up with women as they were, and only now I'm not as much of a f*ck-up as I used to be. That doesn't make me better than they are, it makes me able to help them. If they want to complain rather than listen to me, that's up to them. Maybe it's better I leave them to it. You can't help everyone it seems .

 

Last time I even had any intelligible conversation with anyone regarding "our dating world" it was probably with you anyway . (and mesmerized )

Edited December 12, 2012 by ThaWholigan

[somedude81]

Because as much as everybody says "Wholigan is tall/etc, he had nothing to whine about anyway", I was as much a f*ck-up with women as they were, and only now I'm not as much of a f*ck-up as I used to be.

You lost your virginity at what, 21? 22?

 

And you call yourself f*ck-up because of that?

 

No dude, that's pretty normal. Yeah some guys get laid while they are still teenagers, they are the lucky ones.

 

The guys who are 25+ and still having big difficulties with women they are the f*ck-up's. They are the ones who suffer.

 

Be glad you didn't have to go through that.

[Eternal Sunshine]

Somedude, you are not even a virgin right?

[ThaWholigan]

You lost your virginity at what, 21? 22?

 

And you call yourself f*ck-up because of that?

 

No dude, that's pretty normal. Yeah some guys get laid while they are still teenagers, they are the lucky ones.

 

The guys who are 25+ and still having big difficulties with women they are the f*ck-up's. They are the ones who suffer.

 

Be glad you didn't have to go through that.

3 weeks shy of 24 years old. The thread wasn't that long ago Somedude . And yes, I was a COMPLETE f*ck-up with women you have no idea. You would be surprised at some of the dumb sh*t I did.

[bac]

No more excuses, you whiners. I met a man who is 5'6", totally bald, maybe mid-40s, does a low level office job so not well off. He works out and isn't buff but isn't fat either. Not good looking. His wife is Thai, above average looks, in her 30s. They have a cute four year old daughter. This man has a very agreeable personality. Not life of the party, but nice.

 

It is typical of a short, bald, old man. They are typically looking for much younger beautiful women. They prefer to buy an attractive young woman who is in a difficult financial situation than to build a R with a woman who is not young and beautiful.

[kaylan]

You lost your virginity at what, 21? 22?

 

And you call yourself f*ck-up because of that?

 

No dude, that's pretty normal. Yeah some guys get laid while they are still teenagers, they are the lucky ones.

 

The guys who are 25+ and still having big difficulties with women they are the f*ck-up's. They are the ones who suffer.

 

Be glad you didn't have to go through that.

Actually, a guy losing his virginity as a teen is pretty normal. Not lucky at all. Just look at the stats.

[ascendotum]

It is typical of a short, bald, old man. They are typically looking for much younger beautiful women. They prefer to buy an attractive young woman who is in a difficult financial situation than to build a R with a woman who is not young and beautiful.

 

I don't know if that typical. Its not like I am passing them all the time, but there are a few out there. The thing is though, the local women are not falling over themselves to date such guys so really it doesn't matter..as long as the guy is happy and the asian woman feels she has a better life. If short guy was balding early in life, it would not have been that easy for him, and all he is doing is now marrying the asian version of the woman he would like to have married a decade earlier more than likely. With the couple of guys I know you ended up with an o/s bride, they did so because they had limited options with the local woman (maybe with overweight women yeh, but the guys were not overweight themselves). It wasn't a case of these guys chasing young females all their life, so married os when older to keep the theme going.

 

Actually, a guy losing his virginity as a teen is pretty normal.

that's what I would have said.

Edited December 12, 2012 by ascendotum

[ThaWholigan]

Actually, a guy losing his virginity as a teen is pretty normal. Not lucky at all. Just look at the stats.

Nearly every single one of my male friends including brothers, lost their virginity at 13-16. All my bros were 13.

[fortyninethousand322]

Actually, a guy losing his virginity as a teen is pretty normal. Not lucky at all. Just look at the stats.

 

Actually yes this is true. I can't remember the exact stats but I believe that by age 21 87% of men and 84% of women have had sexual intercourse. I think by age 25 it goes up to 91% for men and 90% for women and then flat lines. Part of that is because studies don't include gay men who have never had straight sex as having had sex (i.e they are counted as virgins) and then the remainder are the perma virgin betas or whatever we call them.

[SJC2008]

She's right, they are whiners.

 

I was unsuccessful and I never whined about it.

 

People handle rejection differently and some become bitter (not me) and reach a point where they feel they have nothing to offer a woman. So yes they start to sterotype and say "All women xyz...". Is it right? No but step outside the box and look at it from their perspective.

 

Like UMC said but in my words I see some cockyness in your posts and you should apologize to sundevil for calling him a pussy in his thread. He has zero self esteem, has never had a gf, probably has never kissed a girl and you call him a whining pussy. Mind you if it wasn't for OLD and a woman propositioning you for sex you'd probably still be a virgin. As women don't usually do that, even online.

[ThaWholigan]

People handle rejection differently and some become bitter (not me) and reach a point where they feel they have nothing to offer a woman. So yes they start to sterotype and say "All women xyz...". Is it right? No but step outside the box and look at it from their perspective.

 

I know their perspective well because I've lived it too. People do handle rejection differently, but that doesn't excuse the bitterness that is shown in their posts. I try to be a lot nicer with the ones who aren't (Necris, Somedude to an extent, 49322, I may be forgetting others). It is the bitterness more than the complaining, and the complete lack of any kind of rational perspective that gets to me.

 

Like UMC said but in my words I see some cockyness in your posts and you should apologize to sundevil for calling him a pussy in his thread. He has zero self esteem, has never had a gf, probably has never kissed a girl and you call him a whining pussy. Mind you if it wasn't for OLD and a woman propositioning you for sex you'd probably still be a virgin. As women don't usually do that, even online.

It's true, but that still could have been a f*ck up. I was probably a little lucky that I happened to come across this girl (or she came across me). Nonetheless, I could have messed that one up big time. I find it quite funny that you guys think I'm being cocky. If I was, you would really know about it . I have not turned into some casanova overnight. I'm just a guy who was a virgin just the other day, but now I'm not, and for the guys who still are or who are still struggling, I am giving them tips on how I did it, and how it will work. Sure, they might not get girls offering sex to them on the internet, but they will at least know how to navigate such a scenario if they happen to encounter it!

 

And I won't apologize to SunDevil. I feel sorry for him and I will continue to try to help him, but he is a whiny pussy at the moment. Read his earlier posts about stupid sh*t like "brideknapping and Machiavellian tactics" and just other silly sh*t that makes him sound like a bad cartoon villain, just because he isn't getting laid. Nobody acts like that just because they aren't getting laid, it's stupid.

 

Honestly, I hope it works out for him and all of you, that's all I want to be honest. But whining and being bitter about it is not gonna help them, and it gets boring to read all the time. It's either they eventually get told every now and then to stop bitching, or they get put on ignore and nobody listens to them. Thankfully, nobody ignores them. But even if they vent, fine. But they should try to whine less, and listen more.

[Eternal Sunshine]

WTF guys, Wholigan should give you hope, not this jealousy BS.

 

Seriously, posting thread after thread drowning in self pity, is only keeping you down and obsessive - sucking away at little self-confidence you have left. It's a downward spiral. I am one of the biggest female whiners so I should know.

[fortyninethousand322]

WTF guys, Wholigan should give you hope, not this jealousy BS.

 

Seriously, posting thread after thread drowning in self pity, is only keeping you down and obsessive - sucking away at little self-confidence you have left. It's a downward spiral. I am one of the biggest female whiners so I should know.

 

I agree on the jealousy bit. No one should be jealous of anyone else. We all have good things and bad things in our lives, our own little crosses to bear, etc. Wholigan had it in him the whole time to fix his situation. What he did doesn't necessarily transfer over to others. So as far as "giving hope", that just depends...

[SJC2008]

I know their perspective well because I've lived it too. People do handle rejection differently, but that doesn't excuse the bitterness that is shown in their posts. I try to be a lot nicer with the ones who aren't (Necris, Somedude to an extent, 49322, I may be forgetting others). It is the bitterness more than the complaining, and the complete lack of any kind of rational perspective that gets to me.

 

It's true, but that still could have been a f*ck up. I was probably a little lucky that I happened to come across this girl (or she came across me).

 

And I won't apologize to SunDevil. I feel sorry for him and I will continue to try to help him, but he is a whiny pussy at the moment. Read his earlier posts about stupid sh*t like "brideknapping and Machiavellian tactics" and just other silly sh*t that makes him sound like a bad cartoon villain, just because he isn't getting laid. Nobody acts like that just because they aren't getting laid, it's stupid.

 

How could you screw up a woman messaging you for sex? No pressure, no game to spit, it was in the bag already. I had sex for the second time EVER recently, almost a 9 year drought, and I read the signs that she was hot and went for it and got it. So don't give me this could of messed it up but I 'improved' crap.

 

I take posters history and background when I respond to their threads and if I have to tell it like it is I do. TBS sundevil has a mild form of aspergers. I don't know if you know this. So I take what he says with a grain of salt and don't name call him because he has a disability.

[ThaWholigan]

How could you screw up a woman messaging you for sex? No pressure, no game to spit, it was in the bag already. I had sex for the second time EVER recently, almost a 9 year drought, and I read the signs that she was hot and went for it and got it. So don't give me this could of messed it up but I 'improved' crap.

 

I take posters history and background when I respond to their threads and if I have to tell it like it is I do. TBS sundevil has a mild form of aspergers. I don't know if you know this. So I take what he says with a grain of salt and don't name call him because he has a disability.

I am autistic too.

 

I admire that you are defending him but I'm not about to make excuses for him. If you want to do that, cool. I'm not gonna do that, I'm tired.

[Sun Devil]

Thawholigan, you do not know what I had to go through. I had to talk to hundreds of girls and asked out 45 of them. All rejected me. I am trying online dating, but no one will date a guy my height, and I mean no one. I get emails from the dating sight saying that they cant find a match for me, and I live in a big city.

[SmileFace]

Thawholigan, you do not know what I had to go through. I had to talk to hundreds of girls and asked out 45 of them. All rejected me. I am trying online dating, but no one will date a guy my height, and I mean no one. I get emails from the dating sight saying that they cant find a match for me, and I live in a big city.

Do you realize dwelling on your height - won't actually bring you success?

 

There is nothing that you can do about your height - outside of a surgery that shouldn't even be allowed. Stop beating the same dead horse - it is done. Live your life - complaining about something you have no control isn't going to fix it. Doesn't matter how many threads you start about it or try to manipulate the situation.

 

I am mpt bull ****ting you and saying your height may not be a disadvantage but you have to live with it. So do that! Or keep dwelling over - lets see how far that gets you.

 

Plus you are putting way too much thought into this to be able to recite a number .

[Sun Devil]

If dating were not an issue, then I would not worry about my height. I am just tired of the constant rejection. It seems like there is not much hope.

[Ninjainpajamas]

It is typical of a short, bald, old man. They are typically looking for much younger beautiful women. They prefer to buy an attractive young woman who is in a difficult financial situation than to build a R with a woman who is not young and beautiful.

 

But in a world without rainbows always shining and colorful sunflowers blooming across rich green covered hills...the reality of the world is not Teletubbie land.

 

Look up a documentary in the life of the poor in a developing country or third world country. The economy is typically in shambles...you can't find work, there's no hope for advancement, you work as hard as you can because you have to, not for a promotion or to be "recognized" for your "outstanding" performance, for wages that allow you just barely to survive and maybe not even that. You can't get an education because you can't afford it, so you have to work. And even if you do, there might not be anything you can do with it. Not to mention plumbing and sanitary conditions can be brutally absurd/non-existant or just very minimal.

 

If it's getting bad for the top dog countries, what do you think the affect is on these other countries? like they say...the ***** rolls down hill.

 

Now imagine if you can escape all of that, by simply having to be with a decent guy who's balding (which she may not care), short (which she may not care) and not attractive (which everyone touts their own horn about how they're not overly picky with beauty then that might work right?) but she gets to actually escape that world completely, live in a comparably luxurious life to what she may have had to live in her country (where she may be considered a liability more than an asset) because really ladies, in many countries the whole feminist or equality movement isn't really going that great. Your best career choice could be prostitution.

 

So when you're from a place or life like that, I think it's safe to say romance and love may not be as high on the priority list as it may be where we live. It's a luxury that we get to b@tch about things all day on LS that someone else in this world would no concern with whatsoever. It's more about survival...so who's getting the better end of the deal?

 

Eventually he'll become impotent and won't be sexing her up anymore, she'll have children by then, that she can watch go to school, get an education, not have to work for survival or face starvation...she gets to bring over some of her family, give them a better life, they work hard...her kids go to school, likely gets higher education, end up making good money to support the family....all because of one balding, short man, who was middle-aged and wanted to get his nut off in a Thai woman's non-obese body.

 

Now isn't that man a pioneer instead of a user That is the twisted reality of the world. But she opened the door for generations to come.

 

Now unfortunately as a man, there is not much of a market for mail male order brides...so in their world If you're a poor guy that can't get a job or anything going, I doubt the female equivalent of this guy (which honestly ladies would be a lot worse and quite scary) would have much luck in this venture.

Edited December 12, 2012 by Ninjainpajamas

[Mumbles]

At least they have that option. An ugly woman has none.

 

I've seen 3 or so responses in this thread along these lines.

 

Its not true. But like men looking for "mail order brides" in other parts of the world, you have to open your mind and look around.

 

By way of example, several years ago now I spent an extended holiday in Mauritius. I was really surprised to see lots of local men, young attractive, fit men, in the arms of older euro/western women.

 

There was so much of this going on that I struck up several conversations with hoteliers and the like during my stay, locals who live there and know the deal, yes, its common. Euro ladies, with money but perhaps past their prime in the dating world at home, doing really well thank you very much, with local lads and taking them home.

 

I'm sure this can't be a weird phenomenon restricted to Mauritius.

Edited December 12, 2012 by Mumbles
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[Eternal Sunshine]

Brilliant! Guys guess what my next holiday destination is

[Emilia]

Perhaps it's because I don't read as many threads as I used to, but I've noticed that your posts in response to anyone making an observation about our dating world is, "I'm better than you because I don't whine and so you shouldn't whine either." I still agree with what you believe in, but it's just coming across as a bit pretentious is all. I don't see as much intelligible discussion from you as I used to.

 

That's a firm no. ThaWholigan gets tired of LS like those of us who have been here for a while do from time to time, that's what you see. Not pretense.

[Emilia]

Last time I even had any intelligible conversation with anyone regarding "our dating world" it was probably with you anyway . (and mesmerized )

 

Everyone can be obtuse on purpose here at least occasionally and once you have been posting here for a while you realise that half the time a reasoned discussion is a complete waste of time/effort.

 

I wouldn't worry about it either, positivity has just as much place

[ascendotum]

Brilliant! Guys guess what my next holiday destination is

 

If that don't work out, take the long way home with a stop off in Nigeria. I gather there seems to be lots of men there who are interested in western women...age is not important for them like western men. You might have to help out with some medical bills and maybe bribe to govt officials for some sort of paperwork for them, but small price for love.