Who says 22-year-old girls aren't attracted to guys in their late 30s?

[mesmerized]

Yeah, jerk sounds like an ok guy albeit being a player...it would be a totally different story if that greznog dude posted this obviously.

[Anela]

FWIW, I don't usually go after 22-year-olds. I tend to date women much closer in age to me. This situation with this girl will probably be one date.

 

My point is that you should feel free to go after whom you are attracted to.

 

I know someone who met her husband when she was around nineteen/twenty, and started dating him about eighteen months later. He's about eighteen years older than she is, and last I heard they were very happy.

 

My cynical side would be thinking, "well of course he's thrilled to be with her, she's so young, beautiful, smart (extremely smart) and popular," but she said that he was happy when she finally started to look older - he was tired of feeling like a creeper when they were out together.

 

I'm not totally against age differences, it's just when men focus on the youngsters, and rule out women their own age (although if they're inclined to that, then I don't want anything to do with them). My sister's creeper - husband - started to shower her with poetry and flirt with her, when he saw how pretty she was (and she looked younger than her age - around 19/20 at the time). He then hit on me, the one day and evening she left him alone. (Ugh, I feel like I need another shower. I wish I could scrub my brain clean, too. He still calls me "amazingly sexy", recounts his hitting on me, another time said that he was in love with me, and then laughs at the very idea - with my sister at that!) He's just a douche.

[Imajerk17]

I asked you some questions about what the phallic joke made was? Did you ever answer?

 

No phallic jokes in my approach, nor would I suggest anyone would try them. I put that comment in my OP because I knew a few smart-alecks on here would make them.

[Nightsky]

And my point is part of being a mentally mature adult is shepherding/nurturing youth, not preying on them.

 

I can't respect any adult who builds a "relationship" with someone they KNOW can't handle a mature relationship and all the responsibility it brings. Old men/women messing with children and young adults aren't much different than those who prey on the mentally deficient... Same usary crap...

 

I can't respect any one who spouts out feminist crap.

[Anela]

Whats with the older guys on this forum? I notice many are always trying to prove to everyone how attractive and desirable they feel they are, while at the same time many are trying to put down women their own age.

 

Exceptions dont make the rules..young people primarily date young people. Itd be nice if all of you, older men and older women, stopped putting us younger folks on a pedestal and stopped putting one another down too.

 

Its kinda creepy how obsessed with youth some of you are, and its lame how your validation comes from how desirable you think you are to young people.

 

*smh*

 

In summary, stop with this insecure and rather pathetic age obsessed nonsense, and just live life.

 

I agree with the first part. The second part: it's creepy how obsessed some younger guys can be with wanting older women to teach them a few things sexually. On a dating site, I heard mostly from older men, and college students - even one high-schooler! Mrs. Robinson, I am not. But there are women who are open to that, so more power to them.

[TheBigQuestion]

And my point is part of being a mentally mature adult is shepherding/nurturing youth, not preying on them.

 

I can't respect any adult who builds a "relationship" with someone they KNOW can't handle a mature relationship and all the responsibility it brings. Old men/women messing with children and young adults aren't much different than those who prey on the mentally deficient... Same usary crap...

 

Exhibit A

 

22 year old women are not children, are not mentally deficient (the fact that you compare young women with the "mentally deficient" is quite insulting, by the way) and are often no more or less capable of building a "mature relationship" than someone 10+ years older than her. Your laughably intolerant viewpoint also leaves no room for the situation where neither party is looking for something serious. As someone before me said, just how many 22-year old women are really looking to get married ASAP?

 

Stop trying to universalize your moral preferences. Also, what's "usary?" Making words up doesn't make you sound smart, nor does it further your point.

[Nightsky]

No phallic jokes in my approach, nor would I suggest anyone would try them. I put that comment in my OP because I knew a few smart-alecks on here would make them.

 

You wrote "I teased her about how she picked her apples" <---------insert phallic jokes here... It really made it sound like you teased her with phallic jokes and I thought you were awesome. Now it comes you were just trying to dissuade or beat us to the punch with phallic jokes...

 

That's a big let down.

 

Ok so how did you tease her about apples. We you all like "Just pick apples already babe."

[iris219]

I have no problem with younger women/men dating older men/women if they are mature enough to do so without being manipulated.

 

Because I work with young people on a daily basis, I am very protective of them. I see firsthand how immature, naive, and inexperienced they are.

 

I can't imagine, personally, hitting on young boys, no matter how hot I thought they were. They are babies! It's not fair or appropriate to do that to them.

 

I don't think Imajerk is actually a jerk or creepy at all. He seems like a pretty cool guy. The statements above are general.

[xxoo]

Ok so how did you tease her about apples. We you all like "Just pick apples already babe."

 

"I like the way you handle those orbs."

[veggirl]

You wrote "I teased her about how she picked her apples" <---------insert phallic jokes here... It really made it sound like you teased her with phallic jokes and I thought you were awesome. Now it comes you were just trying to dissuade or beat us to the punch with phallic jokes...

 

That's a big let down.

 

Ok so how did you tease her about apples. We you all like "Just pick apples already babe."

 

I am also disappointed

 

Exhibit A

 

22 year old women are not children, are not mentally deficient (the fact that you compare young women with the "mentally deficient" is quite insulting, by the way) and are often no more or less capable of building a "mature relationship" than someone 10+ years older than her. Your laughably intolerant viewpoint also leaves no room for the situation where neither party is looking for something serious. As someone before me said, just how many 22-year old women are really looking to get married ASAP?

 

Stop trying to universalize your moral preferences. Also, what's "usary?" Making words up doesn't make you sound smart, nor does it further your point.

 

Yeah I agree. A 22 year old is at the very least mature enough to say "no thanks" and if she doesn't, then whatever. It is offensive to act like she is mentally retarded and was tricked into giving the guy her #. A 22 yr old might be a "kid" in some sense...like in the sense that I think they are obnoxious as hell for example...but can't imagine one being so dumb that she gets tricked into going on dates and stuff. Live and learn...if a younger girl is mesmerized by an older man and whatever he has, that's on her...22 isn't 12 ffs!

[TheBigQuestion]

 

Because I work with young people on a daily basis, I am very protective of them. I see firsthand how immature, naive, and inexperienced they are.

 

I can't imagine, personally, hitting on young boys, no matter how hot I thought they were. They are babies! It's not fair or appropriate to do that to them.

 

 

Because relationships where both parties are 30-somethings fare so well in their romantic relationships? Yeah, there's evidence of THAT all over LS. From what I've seen, especially here, plenty of relationships and marriages between "mature," "experienced," presumably savvy older people of similar age are rife with immature bickering, manipulation, tolerance of abusive behavior, and so forth. They may be "babies" to you, but in most cases they are no more or less capable of making a relationship work than someone your age. Old, bad habits die hard.

[veggirl]

I have no problem with younger women/men dating older men/women if they are mature enough to do so without being manipulated.

 

Because I work with young people on a daily basis, I am very protective of them. I see firsthand how immature, naive, and inexperienced they are.

 

I can't imagine, personally, hitting on young boys, no matter how hot I thought they were. They are babies! It's not fair or appropriate to do that to them.

 

I don't think Imajerk is actually a jerk or creepy at all. He seems like a pretty cool guy. The statements above are general.

 

You sound like you are describing, at most, high school kids. A 22 yr old isn't a baby! Sheesh, at 22 she could be a college grad working in the real world etc. How long do we baby people? Til they are 25?? Til they are 30??

 

Well I vote for 30 cause I'm 29. So can someone please come take care of me, I don't wanna clean my kitchen tonight and I am just too young for it I think.

[Anela]

Because relationships where both parties are 30-somethings fare so well in their romantic relationships? Yeah, there's evidence of THAT all over LS. From what I've seen, especially here, plenty of relationships and marriages between "mature," "experienced," presumably savvy older people of similar age are rife with immature bickering, manipulation, tolerance of abusive behavior, and so forth. They may be "babies" to you, but in most cases they are no more or less capable of making a relationship work than someone your age. Old, bad habits die hard.

 

And many of them are great relationships! the people involved just aren't here talking about them, because they have no need for it!

 

there are those of us who have done their best to avoid all of that, that are also overlooked by men our age who "prefer someone younger."

[iris219]

No phallic jokes in my approach, nor would I suggest anyone would try them. I put that comment in my OP because I knew a few smart-alecks on here would make them.

 

Was it any of these?

 

"You making pie with those apples? I'd like to take a bite of that." (growl noise followed by teeth chomping)

 

"Do you juggle?" (Said with no emotion while staring at her without blinking)

 

"Apples make me think of Christmas; you know, cause they're all red and green" (crazy laughter as if you just said the funniest thing ever, followed by 'oh, I crack me up!')

 

You sound like you are describing, at most, high school kids. A 22 yr old isn't a baby! Sheesh, at 22 she could be a college grad working in the real world etc. How long do we baby people? Til they are 25?? Til they are 30??

 

Well I vote for 30 cause I'm 29. So can someone please come take care of me, I don't wanna clean my kitchen tonight and I am just too young for it I think.

 

I work with kids in their 20s. And, yes, they are kids.

 

I dated older men in my 20s. It is common and it can work, but most people in their early 20s are immature.

Edited December 11, 2012 by iris219

[TheBigQuestion]

And many of them are great relationships! the people involved just aren't here talking about them, because they have no need for it!

 

there are those of us who have done their best to avoid all of that, that are also overlooked by men our age who "prefer someone younger."

 

And I never even remotely said or implied that all 30-somethings who post on LS are in bad relationships. The last time I checked my thesaurus, "plenty" was not a synonym for "all." Is it really necessary to tell me something I already know and already conceded?

[angie2443]

I agree that is distasteful.

 

But Imajerk isn't one of those guys. His thread title may confuse him with them, though. The point is that, for both men and women with good intentions, love and attraction can come in unexpected forms (including older or younger), and it is ok to be open to that.

 

 

 

That would be ironic, if the women complaining now were the same women dating older guys when they were younger

 

There is nothing ironic about this at all. in fact, you may find that some of the women who are most disgusted at these old men going after the young girls are the ones who dated much older men in the past. They know that the inside of these relationships can be really ugly. Having dated a couple of much older guys when I was younger, I can tell you now, after experiencing that type of relationship and after gaining more life experience in general, these type of men make my skin crawl.

 

xxoo, I get the feeling that you don't have much personal with these types of relationships. If you had, your view might be very differant.

[Nightsky]

There is nothing ironic about this at all. in fact, you may find that some of the women who are most disgusted at these old men going after the young girls are the ones who dated much older men in the past. They know that the inside of these relationships can be really ugly. Having dated a couple of much older guys when I was younger, I can tell you now, after experiencing that type of relationship and after gaining more life experience in general, these type of men make my skin crawl.

 

xxoo, I get the feeling that you don't have much personal with these types of relationships. If you had, your view might be very differant.

 

You make my skin crawl. Omg there it goes crawling away.

[Imajerk17]

Was it any of these?

 

"You making pie with those apples? I'd like to take a bite of that." (growl noise followed by teeth chomping)

 

"Do you juggle?" (Said with no emotion while staring at her without blinking)

 

"Apples make me think of Christmas; you know, cause they're all red and green" (crazy laughter as if you just said the funniest thing ever, followed by 'oh, I crack me up!')

 

 

iris these are quite good but alas I didn't use any of them. My wit failed me.

(Sorry to disappoint you veggirl.)

[TheBigQuestion]

You sound like you are describing, at most, high school kids. A 22 yr old isn't a baby! Sheesh, at 22 she could be a college grad working in the real world etc. How long do we baby people? Til they are 25?? Til they are 30??

 

Well I vote for 30 cause I'm 29. So can someone please come take care of me, I don't wanna clean my kitchen tonight and I am just too young for it I think.

 

Hey, apparently you can be 22 and have long-term relationships, have multiple sex partners, pay your own rent, own and drive a car, cohabitate, work full time, earn a college degree, move far away from your family, drink alcohol legally, join a military branch, start a business, have children, lose loved ones, help raise younger siblings, etc., and there are still some people out there who will have the nerve to think of you as a child incapable of deciding whether you can date a guy over a decade older than you.

 

I'm 25, so I unfortunately can't help you with your kitchen either.

[Nightsky]

iris these are quite good but alas I didn't use any of them. My wit failed me.

(Sorry to disappoint you veggirl.)

 

So how did you tease her? Did you just go up to her and say "Oh apples!" and than ask her how old she was...

 

Also how did you elude to your age?

[mesmerized]

So how did you tease her? Did you just go up to her and say "Oh apples!" and than ask her how old she was...

 

Also how did you elude to your age?

 

You need to start watching porn or at least read some erotica.

[Nightsky]

You need to start watching porn or at least read some erotica.

 

I don't think that was erotic I'm trying to find out what he did.

[Anela]

And I never even remotely said or implied that all 30-somethings who post on LS are in bad relationships. The last time I checked my thesaurus, "plenty" was not a synonym for "all." Is it really necessary to tell me something I already know and already conceded?

 

You implied that most relationships between thirty-somethings are awful cesspools of immaturity and deception, and that abuse is usually tolerated.

 

I was mature when I was a teenager, but I wouldn't have been interested in an older man. For some reason, men get a free pass to be Peter Pan, where as women are expected to act their age, and get over the fact that they aren't so young anymore.

[Imajerk17]

So how did you tease her? Did you just go up to her and say "Oh apples!" and than ask her how old she was...

 

Also how did you elude to your age?

 

What you want the transcript of our entire interaction?

 

I told her I was a terrible cook and that she needs to cook me dinner. Besides that I more or less made observations.

 

I actually don't think my "game" is all that strong actually. I'm not a good teaser for one thing. I get past "approach anxiety" and I guess I come across as friendly and confident in person, and that was what did it for me.

[carhill]

Where did you decide to take her on your date? I ask because tastes in dating venues can vary amongst age demographics.

 

Good luck.