Necromancer Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Fat and Ugly men can easily get dates if they show a bit of personality. From reading your posts in this thread you are just down on yourself and blaming the world for everything... if you approach a woman and look and sound miserable, then, no, she won't like you. I know plenty guys who are fat, bald, short, whatever... and they do just fine because they don't care. I'm 6ft tall... I've had women tell me I was too short! Do I get down about it and hate the world? NO! Beacuse it's BS, I'm not short, but that particular girl probably likes guys who are 6'5" or whatever, who cares, I'll date another girl. You just seem miserable within yourself. And THAT is what is unattractive. And besides that... not that I think fat and/or ugly are reasons not to get women there are PLENTY things you can do about it. - If you feel you are over-weight, work out and lose weight and feel better about yourself. - If you feel ugly, buy some new clothes, buy some nice cologne, get a cool new haircut, take care of your skin, just basically take care of yourself, this is EASY for men. It doesn't take as much work as women put into it. - Stop being so picky. Will a 300lb guy get a super-model? Sometimes!! But not always... look at girls who will realistically date you and start there, get some confidence. You know a nice hair cut and cloths wont make you attractive, it´s your bone struggle. Your face matters the most. (But ofc we should look at our best) No 300 lbs dude will get super-model, unless he has Allot of M/S. PUA is BS.
Estate Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 You know a nice hair cut and cloths wont make you attractive, it´s your bone struggle. Your face matters the most. (But ofc we should look at our best) No 300 lbs dude will get super-model, unless he has Allot of M/S. PUA is BS. Who said anything about PUA? I'm telling you if you stopped going around "Oh boo hoo, woa is me, there's nothing I can do to change, everyone hates me.... booo hoo hooo"... Then THAT is more unattractive than anything you could be physically. Man, it's your life.... I like how you conveniently ignored the part where I said, GO WORKOUT IF YOUR WEIGHT IS A PROBLEM. Honeslt,y your posting on here, I'm offering advice with i KNOW is true. If you wanna rubbish it then why ask for advice, sounds liek you just wanna wallow in self pity. Do you want a girlfriend? Then TAKE THE STEPS TO GET ONE. Do you not? Then why are are bothering with this thread. Heck, you want to easiest route possible... I don't know what you weight, but if you weighted 300lbs, get a 300lb girlfriend... just because you can't get your super-model (which who knows, you might if you bothered to try), doesn't mean everyone dislikes you. God, it's threads like these that just make me wanna scream. I mean, you are MEN and acting like totall wusses. Grow up. Grow balls. If you want it, go get it. 2
Necromancer Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Who said anything about PUA? I'm telling you if you stopped going around "Oh boo hoo, woa is me, there's nothing I can do to change, everyone hates me.... booo hoo hooo"... Then THAT is more unattractive than anything you could be physically. Man, it's your life.... I like how you conveniently ignored the part where I said, GO WORKOUT IF YOUR WEIGHT IS A PROBLEM. Honeslt,y your posting on here, I'm offering advice with i KNOW is true. If you wanna rubbish it then why ask for advice, sounds liek you just wanna wallow in self pity. Do you want a girlfriend? Then TAKE THE STEPS TO GET ONE. Do you not? Then why are are bothering with this thread. Heck, you want to easiest route possible... I don't know what you weight, but if you weighted 300lbs, get a 300lb girlfriend... just because you can't get your super-model (which who knows, you might if you bothered to try), doesn't mean everyone dislikes you. God, it's threads like these that just make me wanna scream. I mean, you are MEN and acting like totall wusses. Grow up. Grow balls. If you want it, go get it. I have enough of friends, i work out 5 x a week and i am in excellent shape thank you. If you really think that i am a basement dweller then i am sorry but i have to burst your bubble. Hypergamy is my problem.
ThaWholigan Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I have enough of friends, i work out 5 x a week and i am in excellent shape thank you. If you really think that i am a basement dweller then i am sorry but i have to burst your bubble. Hypergamy is my problem. No it isn't
GravityMan Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 By the way I have a perfect right to live like a hermit and never pursue the women I want. It isn't like I am hurting anybody. I am certainly not hurting women. They could care less that I am hiding from them like a hermit in fear. It does not effect them at all. Oh boo hoo. Sure, nobody's stopping you from wanting to live like a hermit. However, nearly every decision and lifestyle choice you make in your life carries risk and has potential consequences. For instance: living like a loner greatly increases your chances of never getting a woman, and (per studies) lowers your life expectancy. Sometimes in order to get what you want, you have to play the "game" and get out of your comfort zone. You must meet or exceed certain prerequisites in order to achieve some things - possibly including landing a woman you're attracted to. Toss your defeatist attitude into the trash compactor, where it belongs.
IT Geek Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 The LEARN how to have a conversation. And stop moaning. People come in all shapes and sizes and they still manage to meet someone. If you're not even trying then thats your problem right there.. Unfortunately, there isn't a textbook for that. It's something you learn by experience and unfortunately, I was too involved in studies when I should have been out meeting girls and partying. But, I did get my Masters in 5 years.
Estate Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Unfortunately, there isn't a textbook for that. It's something you learn by experience and unfortunately, I was too involved in studies when I should have been out meeting girls and partying. But, I did get my Masters in 5 years. Well if you want textbooks there are THOUSANDS of them! If you want to go the PUA route. If you want to go the self help route. If you want to go the conventional relationship, non-PUA type route. There's HUNDREDS/THOUSANDS. Want a start? Look up Chase Amante & Adam LoDolce. 2 guys who help guys improve themselves and teach them how to meet girls but will both openly tell you how much BS there is in PUA while actually teaching the GOOD parts of it (I.e. self improvement and not creepy tactics) to help guys. That's just 2 examples... there are MANY! Dude, I didn't have a gf until I was 20, I thought I was lame until then. I did 40 hours of college for 5 years, worked 20-30 on top of that, and played sports, and went drinking with my guys, AND I had girlfriends! Graduated with honors too! Now I'm 28. I work 60+ hours a week. I have a LOT going on in my life and I still date girls. Oh and guess what... I'm an IT Geek too. I mean, what is really the issue here? Your whinging how hard you have it and have all these excuses lined up one after the other... if you don't want a girlfriend, don't bother getting one, I don't care... but if your on this thread I'm guessing you do but are blaming everyone for yourself for not taking action. It sounds like you'd prefer I chat up a playboy modell for you, then take her by the hand around to your house and drop her off so you can do nothing. Its not gonna happen that way man! 2
Charlie Harper Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Are you on something buddy?. So being 6´2, tall, dark, muscular and handsome doesn't give you a advantage over 5´4, fat, bad, ugly, full face of acne ridden guy?. Are you serious? this is a million dollar Question Yes/no who will do better with women?. NO, being superhandsome will make you women look at you and if you talk to them they will, but if you dont know how to handle/behave/talk/flirt, most probably you may get a one night stand and no relationships. If you are a super cool ugly fat baldy guy with good personality, funny, charming, now haow to LISTEN and interact with women, you will get them to bed and they will want to do it AGAIN and again.... So NO, guys who never get dates or are rejected, have this IWILL GET REJECTED inbededd on their brains from square one, so nothing will work. Example: there is thsi super beautiful woman who likes to tease me a lot, and when we talk she says, "Hi how are you Horrible monster?" instead of feeling bad or humiliated, I laugh I always retort with something witty, so we have this game.... she always laughs and embraces me and kisses me....just by answering in the same vibe, women like secure men, if they feel you are not secure, behave like a loser or pity yourself for everything....you are toast. I am good looking but no super handsome, have a normal body I am not ripped, my height is less than 6 feet, and I get talked every time, having a nice attitude, proper manners and a smile will make wonders...
Estate Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Well said Charlie. The looks thing is superficial. Yes an attractive man or woman will be noticed more. But what is the good looking guy is the shyest in the world. Will he approach the girls looking at him? No! He probably doesn't even realise and thinks he's ugly too cos girls don't ask him out. What if you had the hottest girl to ever walk the planet... but she was a complete basket case, I mean treated you like dirt. Would you still think she was great? Fine, looks matter as you pass someone in the street but 99% of people are neither stunning nor ugly, just normal, and then it comes down to more than genetics, and alll of these things are under your control.
IT Geek Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 I mean, what is really the issue here? It's probably that I have non-generalized SA (self-diagnosed). Based on past experiences, I see myself as ugly and undesirable, someone that no sane woman would want to be involved with romantically. So, I figure why bother dealing with certain rejection? I can just not say anything and be in the same boat as if I had tried to talk to a woman and got rejected and embarrassed.
Necromancer Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 NO, being superhandsome will make you women look at you and if you talk to them they will, but if you dont know how to handle/behave/talk/flirt, most probably you may get a one night stand and no relationships. If you are a super cool ugly fat baldy guy with good personality, funny, charming, now haow to LISTEN and interact with women, you will get them to bed and they will want to do it AGAIN and again.... So NO, guys who never get dates or are rejected, have this IWILL GET REJECTED inbededd on their brains from square one, so nothing will work. Example: there is thsi super beautiful woman who likes to tease me a lot, and when we talk she says, "Hi how are you Horrible monster?" instead of feeling bad or humiliated, I laugh I always retort with something witty, so we have this game.... she always laughs and embraces me and kisses me....just by answering in the same vibe, women like secure men, if they feel you are not secure, behave like a loser or pity yourself for everything....you are toast. I am good looking but no super handsome, have a normal body I am not ripped, my height is less than 6 feet, and I get talked every time, having a nice attitude, proper manners and a smile will make wonders... You know that extremely confident, charming men are very rare and most are like that from young age. Why do you have this black/white thing, there are very very very few retarded good looking men and ugly men are in 95% cases not extremely confident people. The answer is that the good looking guy will do better! it´s obvious. You are like a hardcore christian.
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