caseinpoint Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 You're a male direct boss of a female employee. Will you never act on your interest in her? Or are there situations in which you would? What situations might these be? If you've decided to act on your interest in her (without coming on too strong), what are some of the signs you put out that you're interested? Note: since you don't want to come on too strong, asking her out for coffee or drinks is out of the question.
Author caseinpoint Posted December 9, 2012 Author Posted December 9, 2012 I'm not the male direct boss, asking for LS opinions to tell me what signs to give. I know it's inappropriate but I'm just wondering if there might be signs from a male direct boss (in case he wants to show) that I can look out for. Whether acting on it is another story.
dasein Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 No, never. If it's not a matter of violating company policy, it is a matter of creating de facto sexual harrassment due to presumption of power imbalance... in the U.S. anyway.
movingon12 Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Then I assume you're the female employee? It shouldn't matter what signs he's giving, even if he's leaving roses and poems on your desk: do not get involved with your boss.
Author caseinpoint Posted December 9, 2012 Author Posted December 9, 2012 No, never. If it's not a matter of violating company policy, it is a matter of creating de facto sexual harrassment due to presumption of power imbalance... in the U.S. anyway. I hear you. Will things be different if one of them has plans to leave the company?
movingon12 Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 After one of them has left the company it would be different. 1
Author caseinpoint Posted December 9, 2012 Author Posted December 9, 2012 Anyone has a similar experience to tell though?
dasein Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Here's some similar experiences. A work acquaintance of mine asked a coworker out... once, not his underling, but same job level. She complained. The company was looking for an example for its new sexual harrassment campaign and he was fired instantly. There was no written policy forbidding coworker dating. An ancient partner in a firm I worked for allegedly patted a female associate's ass. The dude was so shaky and functionally immobile he likely patted people's asses all day trying not to fall down. The firm settled for over 1 mill. He had been a person of quality his whole life with no history of any misconduct of any kind, probably died from the shame. A female boss of mine was known to have blown her way to the top from the operations secretarial pool, and would invite young men she supervised over to hot tub parties one on one. She was never reined in, and the firm's presence in a large city collapsed in under two years. Can go on and on. Companies today take these kinds of things seriously, and the environment is very much guilty until proven innocent beyond a reasonable doubt. Costs billions a year, lawyers make out like bandits. If you had a company, what would you do to a boss who asked out an underling in that type of climate?
EasyHeart Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Never. She could show up naked on my doorstep with a written contract granting me a complete waiver from liability and I would politely say "No, thank you." Liability is a serious issue, but I'd be more concerned about the affect it would have on the other people i work with. You need to treat your employees equally, so I figure if I bang one of them, then I have to bang all of them. Given that most of the people I work with are nerdy, married men, I keep my pants on at work.
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