Disgusted by men

[fortyninethousand322]

I buy most of what ES said here. I'm not sure about it being an "overwhelming majority", but I'd say a good 70% or so of men would act this way...

[dasein]

I buy most of what ES said here. I'm not sure about it being an "overwhelming majority", but I'd say a good 70% or so of men would act this way...

 

70% of men would indeed call their buddies and say "Check out this 'rare treasure' who emailed me from match! Can you believe this? What should I say to her next?"

 

I don't doubt that for a moment.

[Imported]

I buy most of what ES said here. I'm not sure about it being an "overwhelming majority", but I'd say a good 70% or so of men would act this way...

 

You say this based on what? All the reading you do online from forums and your assumptions of guys you don't know beyond saying hi to if even that?

[fortyninethousand322]

You say this based on what? All the reading you do online from forums and your assumptions of guys you don't know beyond saying hi to if even that?

 

I've seen guys I know act this way.

[Toddbt12y1]

I don't doubt for a moment, that men would either. They are pervs, and have always been. Although in my opinion, women have caught up to us guys. But it would be silly to assume that it is just men. Lot's of dating websites show that it can be either gender.

 

It's like my brother, who has been on many dating websites(though he did find a wife out of it..) First, with trashy PoF. All the women claiming to want a "good guy, who works hard, etc." Well, my brother has his own home, works very hard, in good shape, and a good guy.

 

First woman he meets, let's call her J. Well, J acts nice at first, but doesn't have food for her kids, or herself. Brother gets them food, etc. Takes her out, treats her nicely. Bam, after she got her groceries, she is gone one-day to another dude(ofc I shortened this down.)

 

Second woman: Let's call her M. M acted nicer than the first, and lasted a lot longer. Him and M where to be married. But M's mom moved up north; M wanted to go up North, despite her mom telling her she needs to be out on her own.

 

So, M, who cannot get my brother to go(his job is important, and he cannot move.) M lies and tells him she's preg. So, he was debating whether to move or not still. Well, M get's distant, cold, etc, all those typical signs. Later M breaks up with him; but not before telling him she aborted his baby. Of course, later it was revealed that she was never preg(go figure.)

 

In the end, women will use you too. They will lie to you too. They will post fake things, like they want "a hard working good guy who owns his own home," right? But they too lie and they too use a guy.

 

It goes both ways. Seriously, this wagon is loaded on one-side, I am shocked the wheels haven't broken off.

[zengirl]

ES, your sample is a subset of men on OKC who send messages to a girl with a dumbly written profile. I'm really not sure that is the 'overwhelming majority' of men...

 

Yes, the problem with deceiving people and trying to "catch" them is you've set up a false experiment that is likely to get you the worst of the worst. This applies to most schemes of this type.

[Illusionist]

If experiences and experiments would count, then I surely would be disgusted by women, men and the whole human race. HOWEVER, it may be better to see people as individuals. You may have the guts to find out who is false and who is true, or not. I guess it is up to everyone.

 

But I sure have to say that life would be a lot easier if I truly could believe in the "everybody sucks" theory... but that would be too dark for me.

Edited December 9, 2012 by Illusionist

[Imported]

I've seen guys I know act this way.

 

Oh, OK. Well, I guess your experience of guys that you "know" and assumption of what they'll actually do is total proof that exactly 70% or men are that way.

[Els]

Yes, the problem with deceiving people and trying to "catch" them is you've set up a false experiment that is likely to get you the worst of the worst. This applies to most schemes of this type.

 

QFT.

 

If experiences and experiments would count, then I surely would be disgusted by women, men and the whole human race. HOWEVER, it may be better to see people as individuals. You may have the guts to find out who is false and who is true, or not. I guess it is up to everyone.

 

But I sure have to say that life would be a lot easier if I truly could believe in the "everybody sucks" theory... but that would be too dark for me.

 

Don't give up hope! Everybody really does not suck. I'm certain there are many who do (and not in the good way, either!), such as the guys whom ES 'caught' with her little experiment. But there's plenty of good girls and guys out there, they're just not falling for schemes like this.

[phineas]

A woman and I made a funny, fake profile once. What I learned was that all men everywhere in the world say, "hey, you're hottttt" more than any other phrase.

 

Ironically, i have had women on line tell me i'm cute, adorable, handsome, ect when they made first contact.

[phineas]

Her "experiment" if you can even call it that shows a whole lot of nothing, other than the men she likes would happily have sex with a kitchen faucet if given enough lube, which I have no problem with.

 

However when she takes this in depth "analysis" of the male population and then declares that the "overwhelming majority of men" are like that, yeah I take issue with that because it's groundless, generalised rubbish.

 

Not to mention she is guilty of the same misconduct she is harping on about, pot calling kettle black much?

 

You know, I hear the same analysis from women I contact on POF all the time about the guys they meet on the site & yet, their still on the site & have been for a good while.

 

Does not compute.

[phineas]

70% of men would indeed call their buddies and say "Check out this 'rare treasure' who emailed me from match! Can you believe this? What should I say to her next?"

 

I don't doubt that for a moment.

 

Yep. And also, i'm guilty of falling into the NSA trap by women i've just met.

Now I avoid it like the plague.

1 stage 5 clinger is all it took to teach me women need to be vetted before I put my dick in them.

[mesmerized]

A lot of the guys I know would not have sex with a very overweight girl, I know that for sure. In fact my guy friends get angry when bigger women message them on dating sites. But having sex with a hot cheating woman? Most would.

 

I agree that this says something about men you select, they seem to be more on the desperate and unattractive side.

[thatone]

This is one of the reasons why I shun OLD. Your experiment doesn't say much about men as a whole, but it says a lot about the kind of men who use OLD.

 

I already knew that most of the men on OLD are not the kind of guys I'd want to know, so I'm not surprised. Sounds like you need a break from OLD.

 

Exactly.

 

Ask yourself ES why most men on dating sites would be on dating sites?

 

1) casual sex

2) socially inept

3) cheating

4) too busy for other activities

 

So 1 in 4 is probably worth dating assuming you don't mind unavailability. And of that 25%, 100% have probably had casual sex before and would do so again.

Edited December 9, 2012 by thatone

[ThaWholigan]

Well, I'm pretty disgusting to be honest :lmao:

[El Brujo]

They full on wanted to make specific plans to come to this girl's house and f... her.

 

Well DUH, why do you think they're on OLD? The irony is, hardly any of them are going to get sex from OLD. They never learn. They're like that donkey in front of that cart who keeps running because he thinks he's going to catch that carrot that's dangling in front of him.

 

I just don't know why I am even called untrusting when an overwhelming majority of men (and humans in general) are filthy liars with no integrity

 

Well, provided you don't hate asexuals, you could always try Acebook... I guarantee you won't find a man on that site who isn't after a quickie, even if you offer to pay him.

[fortyninethousand322]

Oh, OK. Well, I guess your experience of guys that you "know" and assumption of what they'll actually do is total proof that exactly 70% or men are that way.

 

No, not proof. Just an estimate. If you have an issue with my mathematical formulas and calculations you can feel free to disagree with me. I was just putting my thoughts out there. I'm glad you enjoyed reading them.

[Nightsky]

In science there is a thing called the observers effect or something like that. Well in making your observations you've tainted your experiment from the ways you acquired the men for the experiment OLD, to the way you hit on them.

 

Stay away from OLD and grow up.

[MikeyBe]

I'm sure your experiment got the exact results you were looking for OP.

 

i.e.

Keep in mind that I don't care for any of these guys, I have rejected most due to other reasons or things didn't work out. I always had a feeling that above statements were lies but I told myself that I am being too untrusting.

Being too untrusting is creating an overweight girl out of thin air to test these guys when you already knew the answer.

[soccerrprp]

I'm giggling at so many of you who TRASH OLD dating as a whole. The facts are that there are good, genuine people out there looking for the same. I met my current GF online. It may not work out in the end, but i'm sure glad i met and know her! Some of you make it sound like everyone that gets on OLD must have ulterior motives or are not classy enough for "you" to even consider, but there are people who just don't have the time to get out, so OLD is the next best option.

 

I've made very good friends from OLD, experienced some great ladies and I do not regret it at all. Yes, there are plenty of Trolls that cyber-stalk looking for their next prey, but so are some of you who do it face to face.

 

Excuse me, gotta get back to match.com and continue searching for the woman of my dreams. Oh, wait, I'm already dating someone wonderful that I found online.

[Revolver]

If a Man made a similar thread but said he was "disgusted" by women he'd be crucified

[SmileFace]

You need a ****ing hobby. Like really?

[Nightsky]

If a Man made a similar thread but said he was "disgusted" by women he'd be crucified

 

There'd be a lot more than this to be disgusted about too when it comes to women and OLD. I could actually add what the OP has done here to the list.

 

Understand women are very fragile emotionally speaking and the Feminist movement promoted by white knights hasn't exactly been good for their psyche. It's about making women men, and men women.

[Divasu]

I think it is really unfair (and somewhat ironic) to bait single men with casual sex, and then be disgusted when they say yes.

 

This. You baited men with no intention of sleeping with them. Now imagine if they were aware of your "fake persona" and intent. Sure, it might "teach them a lesson" and think twice in the future, but it would probably also cause them to be mistrustful towards women.

 

Don't perpetuate the problem.

[KathyM]

I think there are some quality men who do OLD and would turn that offer of casual sex down. I know some of them personally, who have met their SO or wife through OLD. But I would agree that the vast majority only tell a woman what they want to hear, and wouldn't turn down sex if it was offered to them. There are both types that do OLD, but the majority probably fall into the second category--wouldn't turn down sex if it was offered to them.