Do Men Want Relationships?

[udolipixie]

Sometimes I have dreams where I think I am married or in a really good relation or it's just one girl, I don't even know what girl and I am just really really really happy. Like overcome with joy. I don't ever have details really, just an overall sense of happiness and it's because I am with that one person. And then I wake up and I'm like.....oh.

 

I don't know why you have such a low opinion of men. I think most men, weather they can get sex easily or not realize the physical release you get out of sex does not really measure up to being truly happy with one girl.

 

I was at the airport the other day and saw a couple. The guy was just looking ahead, but the girl could not take her eyes off him, was constantly rubbing his head and just trying to be near him. He was nothing special to look at, didn't seem rich or anything and she wasn't really unusually attractive either, but I was kinda jealous.

 

Different perceptions as I don't consider not seeking a relationship when sex is plentiful as a low opinion of guys.

 

A low opinion to me would be thinking men are committing heinous violent acts.

 

Possibly you were kinda jealous of that couple because you want some adoring partner to placate and pander to your ego. Telling how your example was of a gal trying to get her partner's attention while the guy is seemingly blase about it.

[ThaWholigan]

Why is it insulting to say men want to date smart, gorgeous, independent, accomplished women??

It's insulting to assume that men are all going for the same women to fit some argument against men that you and other women in this thread seem to be reveling in. I never thought I'd say this but it's as bad as the bitter guys on this forum.

[Emilia]

Possibly you were kinda jealous of that couple because you want some adoring partner to placate and pander to your ego. Telling how your example was of a gal trying to get her partner's attention while the guy is seemingly blase about it.

 

You are projecting.

[udolipixie]

You are projecting.

 

I'm stating the possibility.

 

He stated he was kinda jealous of a couple where the gal can't take her eyes off him and so on while the guy is seemingly blase and just looking ahead. It's possible he wants to have some adoring partner considering he was kinda jealous of such a couple.

[SteveC80]

and since we're apparently in the generalizing the whole gender thread ive found men are more helpless romantics about relationships while women look at it in terms of what they can gain by monetary value or other things by being in a relatinship or women get in relatinships or want to strcitly becasue society has ingrained in them that they must and the american dream is a husband house and kids which seems to be V's one big motivation

 

Women love the idea of love more then they actual love.. how bout them apples?

[PJKino]

Since this is apparently the gender generalizing thread ive found men to be more helpless romantics then women where women look at relaitnships more as what they can gain monetary socially and other things

 

Women seem to also want to get married just becsue they think they have to becasue society tells them the ameican dream is husband house and kids which sems to be v's only motivation and fear to have ot get into one

[ThaWholigan]

I'm stating the possibility.

 

He stated he was kinda jealous of a couple where the gal can't take her eyes off him and so on while the guy is seemingly blase and just looking ahead. It's possible he wants to have some adoring partner considering he was kinda jealous of such a couple.

Who doesn't want an adoring partner? It's not about placating or pandering to an ego, it is just about being adored and loved by a woman you adore and love. What the man was doing was inconsequential, we do not know if he was completely in love or just going through the motions.

 

It was even pointed out that she wasn't some super attractive girl. It's more than just looks and having the "best" woman like some sort of competition. That's crass .

[Lonely Ronin]

Possibly you were kinda jealous of that couple because you want some adoring partner to placate and pander to your ego. Telling how your example was of a gal trying to get her partner's attention while the guy is seemingly blase about it.

 

What do you think it says about you, that this is the first thing that came to your mind!

[verhrzn]

I thought I'd give this a thread a twirl 24 hours later: I had thought V you said this wasn't going to be about you? Is there anything ever that isn't about you? What are you hoping to achieve on LS when you clearly need professional help? I don't really understand what you are hoping for - apart from spreading negativity and twisted perceptions to make yourself feel better.

 

Well considering that I tried to fight off the personal comments for 8 ****ing pages, I just finally gave in because people were DETERMINED to make this thread about me.

 

I notice that you have nothing to contribute to the actual original topic, and came in JUST to bash me. How does that make you feel? Powerful? Does it feel good to feel superior? To be a giant hypocrite by claiming I'm a drama queen and make everything about me, just to post a personal attack?

[Imported]

 

Possibly you were kinda jealous of that couple because you want some adoring partner to placate and pander to your ego. Telling how your example was of a gal trying to get her partner's attention while the guy is seemingly blase about it.

 

The guy was looking ahead...at the arrival/departure gate screen, probably trying to figure out where his girl and him had to be and when. I did not for one second think he had no awareness of his girl. Jealous was not really the right word, but I didn't want to say that it made me feel sad. If all I wanted was a girl to stroke my ego, that would not be a problem at all. But I would be playing make-believe with them and it would be wrong for me and them.

[udolipixie]

Who doesn't want an adoring partner? It's not about placating or pandering to an ego, it is just about being adored and loved by a woman you adore and love. What the man was doing was inconsequential, we do not know if he was completely in love or just going through the motions.

 

It was even pointed out that she wasn't some super attractive girl. It's more than just looks and having the "best" woman like some sort of competition. That's crass .

 

Different opinions as I think what the man is doing is important.

 

If a gal is jealous of a couple where the boyfriend is fawning all the girlfriend while she's all nonchalant...I'd question whether she is jealous of being in a relationship, being in a happy & healthy relationship, or being in a relationship where she is fawned over.

 

Nowhere in my response to you did I mention her looks or that it's about looks for you...though it's telling how you brought it up twice.

[Revolver]

I'd rather men play the field and keep their options open(until he finds a woman hes really crazy about)instead getting into BS relationships lying to women that they love them when they're only with them for convenience or its the best he can do at the moment

[verhrzn]

It's insulting to assume that men are all going for the same women to fit some argument against men that you and other women in this thread seem to be reveling in. I never thought I'd say this but it's as bad as the bitter guys on this forum.

 

Please, PLEASE, point out to me evidence supporting YOUR claim that men DON'T all like the same types of women. Please, anything! I have already given you at least one study.... give me time and I can dump loads more on you.

 

Please show me ANYWHERE where a guy says he wants a woman who does not fit the social standard of beauty.

[udolipixie]

Different opinions as I think what the man is doing is important.

 

If a gal is jealous of a couple where the boyfriend is fawning all the girlfriend while she's all nonchalant...I'd question whether she is jealous of being in a relationship, being in a happy & healthy relationship, or being in a relationship where she is fawned over.

 

Nowhere in my response to him did I mention her looks or that it's about looks for him...though it's telling how you brought it up twice.

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[PJKino]

Please, PLEASE, point out to me evidence supporting YOUR claim that men DON'T all like the same types of women. Please, anything! I have already given you at least one study.... give me time and I can dump loads more on you.

 

Please show me ANYWHERE where a guy says he wants a woman who does not fit the social standard of beauty.

 

You can find a study on anything,theyres millions of studies that claim short men are undesirable to women and women go after the strognest most sucessful mate they can so as a short guy should i blow my head off?

[Lonely Ronin]

Please, PLEASE, point out to me evidence supporting YOUR claim that men DON'T all like the same types of women. Please, anything! I have already given you at least one study.... give me time and I can dump loads more on you.

 

Please show me ANYWHERE where a guy says he wants a woman who does not fit the social standard of beauty.

 

How about you describe what beauty means to you?

 

As a MAN, I can tell you that me and some of my friends have dramatically different opinions of what we find attractive in a woman.

[verhrzn]

You can find a study on anything,theyres millions of studies that claim short men are undesirable to women and women go after the strognest most sucessful mate they can so as a short guy should i blow my head off?

 

If you can find a study for "anything," then you should have a very easy time finding one on how many men want women who are outside the social standard of beauty.

[udolipixie]

The guy was looking ahead...at the arrival/departure gate screen, probably trying to figure out where his girl and him had to be and when. I did not for one second think he had no awareness of his girl. Jealous was not really the right word, but I didn't want to say that it made me feel sad. If all I wanted was a girl to stroke my ego, that would not be a problem at all. But I would be playing make-believe with them and it would be wrong for me and them.

 

I wasn't talking about awareness I was talking about attention and he certainly was showing the same or similar level of attentiveness to her that she was to him.

 

Possibly you want a gal to stroke your ego without having to play make-believe. Sort of like to me how a guy may want loads of sex without having to pay prostitutes as it's likely more satisfying to his ego to get it 'honestly'.

[ThaWholigan]

Different opinions as I think what the man is doing is important.

 

If a gal is jealous of a couple where the boyfriend is fawning all the girlfriend while she's all nonchalant...I'd question whether she is jealous of being in a relationship, being in a happy & healthy relationship, or being in a relationship where she is fawned over.

 

Nowhere in my response to you did I mention her looks or that it's about looks for you...though it's telling how you brought it up twice.

Because I wasn't just addressing you, I was addressing the "men only like super hot women" crowd.

 

Honestly, if you want to believe that men only like the hottest of hot women then fine, it's just as retarded as the top 20% of men theory but fine. You girls can pull studies out of your ass and I will still not believe you because I refuse to have my integrity as a man insulted.

[udolipixie]

What do you think it says about you, that this is the first thing that came to your mind!

 

I think it says I'm observant of how the couple he was jealous of had one partner being more attentive than the other.

 

Nice spin though.

 

Yeah what does it say about me that I think it's possible he wants an adoring partner when he's jealous of a couple with an adoring partner......

[verhrzn]

How about you describe what beauty means to you?

 

As a MAN, I can tell you that me and some of my friends have dramatically different opinions of what we find attractive in a woman.

 

Smaller nose. Non-yellow teeth, teeth are present. No double chin. Non-droopy boobs. Smaller waist. Not large stomach (as in, doesn't need to be flat, but better not be large.) Some definition in butt. Shaped legs. Hair that is not thinning, or coarse.

 

Yes, I am sure you do have different opinions, as in one guy like blondes with big boobs, and one guy likes redheads with smaller boobs. But those are accessories.... it's like how Barbies all have the same general body shape and proportions, but supposedly "look different" because some have freckles and all of them have different hair colors.

[PJKino]

If you can find a study for "anything," then you should have a very easy time finding one on how many men want women who are outside the social standard of beauty.

 

My point is we know they are certain traits that are attractive and unattractive to the majority of BOTH GENDERS but it doesnt mean all

 

You can complain about men wanting slender curvy women and i can complain about most women wanting tall men till im passd out its not gonna change what people are attracted to and it also doesnt mean only people who fit the ideal are in loving relationships

[verhrzn]

Because I wasn't just addressing you, I was addressing the "men only like super hot women" crowd.

 

Honestly, if you want to believe that men only like the hottest of hot women then fine, it's just as retarded as the top 20% of men theory but fine. You girls can pull studies out of your ass and I will still not believe you because I refuse to have my integrity as a man insulted.

 

Why is it freaking insulting?? Why is insulting to acknowledge what anyone who glances through a men's magazine or porn and glances at popular celebrities or takes a look at ANY of the numerous threads here constantly picking apart... oh, sorry, admiring.... women's bodies.... would know?

 

Guys on this board, other places on the Internet, real life.... ALL of them say over and over that men are visual, that they can't help be attracted to hot women, that men are just biologically wired to prefer women with nice boobs and a small waist.

 

So how is it insulting to just repeat what I have been told, over and over, by men themselves??

[Drseussgrrl]

V we give you examples from our every day lives, which is REALITY, that prove men go for chubby, average women all the time.

 

Just last night at my cornhole league, one of the other teams had a girl on it who was actually quite chubby and not all that pretty in the face. But she was having a great time, laughing with her friends, and lo and behold was wearing quite a huge engagement ring and wedding band.

 

And how do you explain women such as Adele and Melissa McCarthy who are both large and in charge but have healthy love lives? Gee - could it have anything to do with their AWESOME PERSONALITIES??

[verhrzn]

V we give you examples from our every day lives, which is REALITY, that prove men go for chubby, average women all the time.

 

Just last night at my cornhole league, one of the other teams had a girl on it who was actually quite chubby and not all that pretty in the face. But she was having a great time, laughing with her friends, and lo and behold was wearing quite a huge engagement ring and wedding band.

 

And how do you explain women such as Adele and Melissa McCarthy who are both large and in charge but have healthy love lives? Gee - could it have anything to do with their AWESOME PERSONALITIES??

 

YES. I already said that an amazing, outstanding, fantastic personality CAN measure out average looks.

 

I ALSO said that a lot of men seem to settle for less than attractive women, because they can't get what they are actually interested in.

 

Other posters have admitted this as well.... That they know plenty of guys who are in relationships for sex/out of desperation, not because they have the Best.

 

I say again.... I don't think men are players, when they have the Best. When they have the Best, I think men are fully capable of love and commitment and fidelity. It's when a guy settles, because he can't get what he's actually attracted to, that you run into issues.

 

Your real-life examples are examples of guys settling. Glance around the Internet.... those average girls are not the ones guys are drooling over.