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I used to think the whole "alpha male" stuff was made up... till recently

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AD1980 Established Member

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I never bought into the fact that these so called alpha males had magical powers over women like some people claimed i always thought it was just an excuse to why somebody cant attract women and while i still dont buy its the end all be all lately ive seen it does have some merit

 

My friend who was recently divorced and became single was the so called "alpha" of the group good looking sucessful guy always leading setting places up to go etc

 

Married women in my social circle claimed he was arrogant full of himself etc they seemed to be put off by his "alpha" aura then he becomes single lightly jokes around and flirts with these women add in a little alcohol and these married women who bad mouthed him before are know coming close to crossing the line in flriitng and touching him telling him how hot he is.

 

Is it possible these traits really do have a spell over women where they are off put by his arrogance but at the same time animally attracted because of female wiring? or maybe they were just attracted to him the whole time and badmouthed him in front of people including their husbands to mask feelings they had deep down?

 

 

Ladies can you see how if your mans friend was this type of guy that you could posisbly be seduced in a weak moment?

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CptSaveAho Established Member

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Stop listening to womens' responses... they are full of crap and youre going to see the majority here disagree with this

 

If a lady talks about a guy and calls him, arrogant, *******, crazy, jerk, etc ... its a compliment because that guy is stirring her "emotional" pot

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Drseussgrrl Established Member

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Actually arrogance is one of the biggest turnoffs ever.

 

And no, I'm not full of sh*t.

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CptSaveAho Established Member

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LOL-----------------puhlease

 

Mr. Darcy is arrogant, yet every girl wants to meet and marry one

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Drseussgrrl Established Member

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I don't.

 

10 characters.

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SteveC80 Established Member

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Women will vehemently deny this of course but i know it for a fact because im currently that alpha guy who awkwardly has married women in his social circle doing the same thing and it is not fun for me

 

Women have very little control of their emotions and feelings if you can tap into that if you know how to flirt and be seductive with a women and make her feel good while at the same time having looks that also turn her on married or not most women will want a piece

 

Also dont overlook a womens ego,a lot will risk thir marriage for a shot that she could be the one to take down and tame this alpha all the women are vying for

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USMCHokie Established Member

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Perhaps they are attempting to use logical "justification" to subdue their emotional response of attraction to him. Similar to my PUA thread, women might "hate" on PUAs in order to convince themselves not to want exactly what they want, either because they'd been used before by a PUA or don't want to carry the image of being easily swayed by a PUA...people tend to want to protect their image to others...

 

I don't know, just thinking out loud...

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iris219 Established Member

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Ladies can you see how if your mans friend was this type of guy that you could posisbly be seduced in a weak moment?

 

Can you post a pic of your hot friend do that I can answer the question more accurately? :p

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SteveC80 Established Member

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Perhaps they are attempting to use logical "justification" to subdue their emotional response of attraction to him. Similar to my PUA thread, women might "hate" on PUAs in order to convince themselves not to want exactly what they want, either because they'd been used before by a PUA or don't want to carry the image of being easily swayed by a PUA...people tend to want to protect their image to others...

 

I don't know, just thinking out loud...

 

I think thats a good point women dont want to think they can easily be swayed or maniuplated..Bottom line is women as a whole tend to be a little more naive then men and can be manipulated by words and seduced..

 

Imo thats even more dangerous Men who might just get tempted to stray physically but try to resist a women can grown infatuated with seducers because of how he made her feel even if he was bs'ing

 

I think women are emotional conenction/bond junkies and if you can tap into that and at the same time also bring the physical attraction its a dangeorus situation for any women married or not..

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ThaWholigan Established Member

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:laugh: You're all full of sh*t.

 

This is why you will never prosper.

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SteveC80 Established Member

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:laugh: You're all full of sh*t.

 

This is why you will never prosper.

 

You're gonna tell a guy whos currently in this position hes ful of ****:rolleyes:

 

If you want to believe the world is all roses and people are all well inentioned go ahead but dont try to tell people therye expreinces are not true because you want to think positively about the world around you

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ThaWholigan Established Member

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You're gonna tell a guy whos currently in this position hes ful of ****:rolleyes:

 

If you want to believe the world is all roses and people are all well inentioned go ahead but dont try to tell people therye expreinces are not true because you want to think positively about the world around you

They need to take a look around. There's a lot of sh*t, but there is also a lot of good too. They don't adequately deal with the sh*t, and that's why they will always have sh*t. They bitch about it to the high heavens. Before, I used to sympathize and understand because I've been through it myself, and I gave all the advice and wisdom I could to deal with it. Does anybody listen? :laugh: No, the same bitching over and over again.

 

I'm fed up of it, it's boring, tiring and pathetic. It's one thing to vent, I get that. There is some f*cked up things in this world, and there are a lot of men and women who suck, period. But you know what? Life goes on, occasionally you have to STFU and get on with it like everybody else. You don't want to learn how to deal with it? Tough, but don't complain afterwards like a pussy. Too much of that sh*t.

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Drseussgrrl Established Member

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I just read through the list of all the other threads you have created and this one is no different.

 

You obviously have zero success with women and for you it all boils down to the fact that women are, as you say, "emotional conenction/bond junkies" and "easily manipulated".

 

I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with the fact that you come across as incredibly insecure and therefore have to resort to things like blaming women for your failures. I'm sure you're the type that resorts to stupid pick-up lines and "gaming".

 

It's all transparent and incredibly off-putting. Try actually liking yourself instead of having this asinine attitude that women are shallow and fawn over every dude who's taller, more confident and better looking than you are.

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USMCHokie Established Member

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This is one of those weird situations where I think the overall naivety of men is rearing it's sad little head. Lots of women will respond to the alpha male at a very basic level, the same way men respond to barbie-type women, but that doesn't mean that those women want to take him home to keep as a pet. Alpha males are frequently very poor lovers (as most narcissists and megalomaniacs of both sexes tend to be) and even worse life partners (for all of the well-known reasons). Women respond to them chemically, on a very short-term basis, but once the alcohol an hormones wear off, most women will avoid these men like the plague.

 

If these are men are truly avoided like the plague, then why is the US divorce rate so high...? :confused:

SteveC80 Established Member

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This is one of those weird situations where I think the overall naivety of men is rearing it's sad little head. Lots of women will respond to the alpha male at a very basic level, the same way men respond to barbie-type women, but that doesn't mean that those women want to take him home to keep as a pet. Alpha males are frequently very poor lovers (as most narcissists and megalomaniacs of both sexes tend to be) and even worse life partners (for all of the well-known reasons). Women respond to them chemically, on a very short-term basis, but once the alcohol an hormones wear off, most women will avoid these men like the plague.

 

So why are my friends wives getting overly flirtatious with me if the alpha male thign was just a "phase"?

 

Maybe its what women are truly attracted to but know its not good for them so its a battle for them

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Thing you women might not get is that, if most guys had to choose between being (A) the guy you have nsa sex with and "dont take seriously" or (B) the nice guy you want to pin down for a relationship, most guys would rather be (A).

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ThaWholigan Established Member

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Thing you women might not get is that, if most guys had to choose between being (A) the guy you have nsa sex with and "dont take seriously" or (B) the nice guy you want to pin down for a relationship, most guys would rather be (A).

I hear that.

 

1. Sometimes you have to accept that you are relationship guy. Figure out how to use it to your benefit, and be more discriminating and analytical about your woman.

 

2. Sometimes you have to develop a well-rounded enough persona that you can be both A and B.

 

I chose the latter, and am working towards it. What are the other guys doing? :confused:

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rocketman122 Established Member

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you are correct in what you say. but its a mixture of a few things for me. since doing BB, my confidence is sky high. I have a more assertive/dominant attitude. I dress great, look great, feel great.

 

I would have no problem walking up to almost any woman and talking to her. maybe I wouldnt succeed but my state of mind is "i want her and im taking her".

 

the alpha male profile has too much of "azzholeness" in it for me to call myself one. im the modern age gentlemen. nice guy, but im no sucker. I treat my woman right, but when she gets dramatic, I have bring her down a notch.

USMCHokie Established Member

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Honestly, I am quite partial to men that at least physically come off as alpha males (in terms of their build and physical prowess), but I know never to take them seriously. They're strictly one-night stand or short term fling material.

 

This seems to be consistent with the notion of the PUA hooking up with the most attractive women, knowing never to take them seriously...and then moving onto the next...

 

Condone...? Or encourage...?

USMCHokie Established Member

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I chose the latter, and am working towards it. What are the other guys doing? :confused:

 

Running as far away from B as possible and as close to A as I can... :laugh:

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This whole thing is about looks, of course women are attracted to the Alpha guy. Why? Usually people who are described as such are generally attractive, women may not like his personality, but they like his body, and unconsciously may want to have children with him as he may appear to have good genetics to pass on to her children. If the guy looked unattractive his poor personality isn't going to help him get anywhere, unless he was also extremely charismatic as well.

 

Conversely the "nice guy" may have an excellent personality but not the look, therefore women like him for a friend but don't see any romantic potential, just thinking about romance with him may illicit a feeling of disgust.

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plainjane79 Established Member

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I never bought into the fact that these so called alpha males had magical powers over women like some people claimed i always thought it was just an excuse to why somebody cant attract women and while i still dont buy its the end all be all lately ive seen it does have some merit

 

My friend who was recently divorced and became single was the so called "alpha" of the group good looking sucessful guy always leading setting places up to go etc

 

Married women in my social circle claimed he was arrogant full of himself etc they seemed to be put off by his "alpha" aura then he becomes single lightly jokes around and flirts with these women add in a little alcohol and these married women who bad mouthed him before are know coming close to crossing the line in flriitng and touching him telling him how hot he is.

 

Is it possible these traits really do have a spell over women where they are off put by his arrogance but at the same time animally attracted because of female wiring? or maybe they were just attracted to him the whole time and badmouthed him in front of people including their husbands to mask feelings they had deep down?

 

 

Ladies can you see how if your mans friend was this type of guy that you could posisbly be seduced in a weak moment?

 

I don't see what's wrong or strange about women being attracted to a guy who is good looking and successful and confident. I mean, assuming a girl is all of these things too, why is it such a crime to strive for that?

 

Now if we're talking an arrogant d-bag with six pack abs and a bad case of chauvinism, no thank you.

 

And also, there are degrees of good looking, attractive, confident, etc. I tend to be attracted to tall-ish guys with decent jobs/education but they are also usually slightly overweight (or at least soft in the gut) and

slightly awkward (though not to the point that they won't leave their house, for example.) Not every "alpha male" out there is Brad Pitt, I would think.

USMCHokie Established Member

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I don't see what's wrong or strange about women being attracted to a guy who is good looking and successful and confident. I mean, assuming a girl is all of these things too, why is it such a crime to strive for that?

 

The point is that there's nothing wrong with it, but it seems women get very defensive, almost in vehement denial, if someone suggests that they could possibly be attracted to a good looking and successful man, i.e., the "alpha male"...it simply boggles my mind...

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PJKino Established Member

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I don't see what's wrong or strange about women being attracted to a guy who is good looking and successful and confident. I mean, assuming a girl is all of these things too, why is it such a crime to strive for that?

 

Now if we're talking an arrogant d-bag with six pack abs and a bad case of chauvinism, no thank you.

 

And also, there are degrees of good looking, attractive, confident, etc. I tend to be attracted to tall-ish guys with decent jobs/education but they are also usually slightly overweight (or at least soft in the gut) and

slightly awkward (though not to the point that they won't leave their house, for example.) Not every "alpha male" out there is Brad Pitt, I would think.

 

Because the op said there are married women throwing themselves at this guy

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