Men who pick the wrong women then complain about it.

[Mrlonelyone]

I say this without malice towards either binary gender.

 

Men who are nice/short/virgins over 20 and stressing over it/asian and stressing over it/ etc are guilty of constantly picking the wrong women for them. They come on here and complain about why the bad/tall or snobby about height/experienced sexually/not asian women won't have them.

 

You are just as bad as the women who complain constantly about why they can't tame a douchebag (and if they did they would stop liking him instantly).

 

How about this. If your a nice guy and keep chasing women who want bad boys. Realize those women aren't nice themselves. Find a really nice girl at church or the library.

 

If you are a 5'7" guy just erase women over 5'4" from your field of view. According to this Average womens height chart scientific data 1/2 of all the white US women are shorter than 5'4". You could be dating a woman who looks like Kim Kardashian but without the negatives.

 

Just target women who will be receptive and ignore the ones who aren't. It's really just that simple. (Oh and by receptive they don't have to want to jump right into your pants either. Taking a woman out dose not have to result in immediate fellatio to mean she's into you.)

 

If you keep picking the wrong women don't complain about the results.

[ThaWholigan]

I say this without malice towards either binary gender.

 

Men who are nice/short/virgins over 20 and stressing over it/asian and stressing over it/ etc are guilty of constantly picking the wrong women for them. They come on here and complain about why the bad/tall or snobby about height/experienced sexually/not asian women won't have them.

 

You are just as bad as the women who complain constantly about why they can't tame a douchebag (and if they did they would stop liking him instantly).

 

How about this. If your a nice guy and keep chasing women who want bad boys. Realize those women aren't nice themselves. Find a really nice girl at church or the library.

 

If you are a 5'7" guy just erase women over 5'4" from your field of view. According to this Average womens height chart scientific data 1/2 of all the white US women are shorter than 5'4". You could be dating a woman who looks like Kim Kardashian but without the negatives.

 

Just target women who will be receptive and ignore the ones who aren't. It's really just that simple. (Oh and by receptive they don't have to want to jump right into your pants either. Taking a woman out dose not have to result in immediate fellatio to mean she's into you.)

 

If you keep picking the wrong women don't complain about the results.

Sometimes those "nice girls at church" are the baddest bitches of all. Appearances can be deceiving.

 

Besides, I seem to attract "bad girls" a lot more than the good girls but appearances can be deceiving there too.

[Failboy]

I say this without malice towards either binary gender.

 

Men who are nice/short/virgins over 20 and stressing over it/asian and stressing over it/ etc are guilty of constantly picking the wrong women for them. They come on here and complain about why the bad/tall or snobby about height/experienced sexually/not asian women won't have them.

 

You are just as bad as the women who complain constantly about why they can't tame a douchebag (and if they did they would stop liking him instantly).

 

How about this. If your a nice guy and keep chasing women who want bad boys. Realize those women aren't nice themselves. Find a really nice girl at church or the library.

 

If you are a 5'7" guy just erase women over 5'4" from your field of view. According to this Average womens height chart scientific data 1/2 of all the white US women are shorter than 5'4". You could be dating a woman who looks like Kim Kardashian but without the negatives.

 

Just target women who will be receptive and ignore the ones who aren't. It's really just that simple. (Oh and by receptive they don't have to want to jump right into your pants either. Taking a woman out dose not have to result in immediate fellatio to mean she's into you.)

 

If you keep picking the wrong women don't complain about the results.

 

 

If only it were that simple.

 

The hot short women are especially the ones who look for (very) tall men. I've talked to female friends around 5'2'' who outright told me that their boyfriends are supposed to have at least one foot on them. Preferably even more.

 

In fact, I'd go for women below 5'4'' even if I could get any girl I want, simply because I like looking them straight into the eyes even if they have heels on. It's just that short women despise short men even more than tall women do. It is true.

 

Not that I'm a player when it comes to tall women, but I at least can get a look here and there and maybe even a date once or twice a year or so. With good-looking short women, I have no chance in hell.

 

 

 

Also, Lowering Standards can only get you so far. Because I couldn't score on a woman I was into to save my life, I decided to lower my standards drastically. Result was, I ended up in bed with VERY insecure women, who thought they weren't good enough for me and who couldn't get my penis hard for more than 2 minutes. So that's that.

[soccerrprp]

It's funny how so many short women want guys 6-12 inches taller then themselves, but goodness forbid if you're a guy 2-4 inches taller....i know, it's just a preference...

 

I had, for the first time, been sort of ridiculed for my height (I'm 5'6) by a women who is 2 inches shorter. I asked if height was a problem for her and that it wasn't for me...no reply. It seems to me that she couldn't muster enough spite towards someone who is absolutely confident and comfortable with his height. I am. I have had little trouble dating. Some say that dating is not about picking women that make sense or logical, this is not entirely true.

 

I have had success because I don't look for women who are more than 2-inches taller than myself. (I've dated women 2-inches taller). Be sensible and reasonable. The rest is then far from logical.

[Mrlonelyone]

Who said anything about "lowering standards". It's about going for women who are more likely to be into you.

 

Who's more likely to see past a "short" 5'7" man? A woman who is 5'7" or a woman who is 5' 2".

 

Kim Kardashian, beautiful rich woman of 5'2.5" Has dated:

Ray J who was 5'7" (of the sex tape)

Kanye West who is 5'10"

and Kris Humphries (married for like a month) who is over 6'.

 

If RayJ and Kanye can get her, then you can get a non celebrity version of her. That is not an opinion that is a fact.

 

Stop hiding behind excuses. Stop getting hung up on people who don't want you and focus on the one's who are into you. It's as if a woman being into some guys makes her less attractive.

[El Brujo]

I don't complain because I pick the wrong women.

 

I complain because the wrong women pick me.

[Failboy]

Who said anything about "lowering standards". It's about going for women who are more likely to be into you.

 

Who's more likely to see past a "short" 5'7" man? A woman who is 5'7" or a woman who is 5' 2".

 

Kim Kardashian, beautiful rich woman of 5'2.5" Has dated:

Ray J who was 5'7" (of the sex tape)

Kanye West who is 5'10"

and Kris Humphries (married for like a month) who is over 6'.

 

If RayJ and Kanye can get her, then you can get a non celebrity version of her. That is not an opinion that is a fact.

 

Stop hiding behind excuses. Stop getting hung up on people who don't want you and focus on the one's who are into you. It's as if a woman being into some guys makes her less attractive.

 

 

I could never, EVER, get a non-celebrity version of Kim Kardashian. If you honestly believe it is a fact that any short guy can just get a a super-hot short girl, you are delusional to a point that makes it impossible to have a sensible discussion, no offense.

 

Focus on the ones that are into me? You make it sound as if short men have tons of girls being into them If only my friend, if only!

 

I went for short women all my life and have been a virgin until I was 23 because of that. Only when I started to be open for women who were significantly taller than me I was able to get some sex.

[Mrlonelyone]

Not every librarian is a nice girl.

 

It's just an example don't be so literal.

 

If you are a "nice guy" who tries to pick up bad girls with daddy issues and want to be spanked....expect disappointment.

 

Failboy. With your attitude you never will find that kind of a woman, short, attractive because you'll never approach them. Likewise you'll never approach a taller woman. Even if they approach you, you'll pre-reject them just to be sure they can't reject you.

 

You are your own worst enemy.

[LittlePrince]

Find a really nice girl at church or the library.

Those don't exist.

[dasein]

Agree generally, but as far as the "wrong" women I've gotten involved with over the years, they are usually best foot forward on the front end. The very worst ones have been masters of disguise who could school Lon Chaney, then the phantom mask comes off. AIEEEEEE! . I realize this isn't the thread premise, just sayin.

[carhill]

OP, outline a methodology by which we can share our retrospective experiences with 'wrong' women in a way which isn't perceived as 'complaining'.

 

I ask this question because of the variability I've noted in perceptions, particularly between genders. When women 'vent', they're 'sharing'. When I vent, or even talk in a moderate tone about some negative experiences, I'm perceived as 'complaining', or so I've been told. 'Stop complaining' or 'be a man' have been common responses. Evidently I picked the wrong people to 'complain' to as well

[Failboy]

It's just an example don't be so literal.

 

If you are a "nice guy" who tries to pick up bad girls with daddy issues and want to be spanked....expect disappointment.

 

Failboy. With your attitude you never will find that kind of a woman, short, attractive because you'll never approach them. Likewise you'll never approach a taller woman. Even if they approach you, you'll pre-reject them just to be sure they can't reject you.

 

You are your own worst enemy.

 

 

Now you are just making up stuff. I've approached hundreds of girls/women. I have never rejected a woman in my entire life.

[Mrlonelyone]

OP, outline a methodology by which we can share our retrospective experiences with 'wrong' women in a way which isn't perceived as 'complaining'.

 

Carhill. Posters like you are not the intended audience. You have had your successes and failures and have some perspective. I may complain right as I have a problem but I don't draw universal conclusions based on my problems.

 

Some people here do nothing but incessantly complain that because of this or that unchangeable physical feature they will "never" find a woman. It never occurs to them that all that means is they need to forget about the women who won't give them a chance based on that.

 

I ask this question because of the variability I've noted in perceptions, particularly between genders. When women 'vent', they're 'sharing'. When I vent, or even talk in a moderate tone about some negative experiences, I'm perceived as 'complaining', or so I've been told. 'Stop complaining' or 'be a man' have been common responses. Evidently I picked the wrong people to 'complain' to as well

 

The people who say you are "complaining" based on an experiences are in the wrong. Having a bad outing and venting are one thing. Declaring that you will never succeed because of race or height or any such thing are something else.

 

There are many here who don't complain about experiences they complain about things that are as immutable as laws of physics. If you can't fight the gravity and magnetic fields, learn how to navigate between them.

 

 

One more thing. I have seen plenty of women told or had it implied to them that since men are always offering up the stick they shouldn't complain or vent either. That their problems are finding dates and relationships not sex, never considering that women usually/ideally want sex to follow dates and happen inside relationships.

[LittlePrince]

Some people here do nothing but incessantly complain that because of this or that unchangeable physical feature they will "never" find a woman. It never occurs to them that all that means is they need to forget about the women who won't give them a chance based on that.

Eventually you will remove everyone.

[EasyHeart]

Sometimes those "nice girls at church" are the baddest bitches of all. Appearances can be deceiving.

I know more than a few of those. . .

[El Brujo]

I could never, EVER, get a non-celebrity version of Kim Kardashian.

 

FYI I would never WANT a non-celebrity version of Kim Kardashian. Or even a celebrity version.

 

Not every librarian is a nice girl.

 

Nobody reads anymore. Dumb it down, remember?

[AlexDP]

I could never, EVER, get a non-celebrity version of Kim Kardashian. If you honestly believe it is a fact that any short guy can just get a a super-hot short girl, you are delusional to a point that makes it impossible to have a sensible discussion, no offense.

 

Focus on the ones that are into me? You make it sound as if short men have tons of girls being into them If only my friend, if only!

 

I went for short women all my life and have been a virgin until I was 23 because of that. Only when I started to be open for women who were significantly taller than me I was able to get some sex.

 

Kim Kardashian is not hot.

[Mrlonelyone]

My point to the men who constantly complain about their height is that they should look at shorter women. If a particular woman turns up her nose, then just move on to the next one.

 

Kim. K. was just one example of a shorter woman who is considered by many to be good looking. There are plenty of women like her in and out of hollywood all around you.

 

I guess men who are short are as stubborn about wanting a tall willowy woman as women who are short are about wanting a tall man.

 

The same goes for the complaints about race and country of origin. These are things none of us can change about ourselves. Yet, men of those races, and countries do find women. They just don't waste time on women who are not going to do anything for them.

[Mrlonelyone]

I just don't think you are being realistic about men. Sure some are the way you say, but many more don't care about the stuff you mention. You can't generalize.

 

Do you mean being "not being realistic about women"? There are plenty of women who don't have the complex about height and race etc.

[Imported]

I say this without malice towards either binary gender.

 

Men who are nice/short/virgins over 20 and stressing over it/asian and stressing over it/ etc are guilty of constantly picking the wrong women for them. They come on here and complain about why the bad/tall or snobby about height/experienced sexually/not asian women won't have them.

 

You are just as bad as the women who complain constantly about why they can't tame a douchebag (and if they did they would stop liking him instantly).

 

How about this. If your a nice guy and keep chasing women who want bad boys. Realize those women aren't nice themselves. Find a really nice girl at church or the library.

 

If you are a 5'7" guy just erase women over 5'4" from your field of view. According to this Average womens height chart scientific data 1/2 of all the white US women are shorter than 5'4". You could be dating a woman who looks like Kim Kardashian but without the negatives.

 

Just target women who will be receptive and ignore the ones who aren't. It's really just that simple. (Oh and by receptive they don't have to want to jump right into your pants either. Taking a woman out dose not have to result in immediate fellatio to mean she's into you.)

 

If you keep picking the wrong women don't complain about the results.

 

OP, I don't have any problems in actually getting women, but I have made assumptions about women and been wrong. However, your post sounds like you have very little practical experience in what it is you're saying to do, because it is horse****.

 

I am 5'11", I have been told I was too short twice. Both girls were somewhere between 5'1 to 5'3" at best. But that is not the problem, those two short girls just have a fetish for really tall guys I guess and I know they are not the norm. What is the problem is I have hooked up with a lot of women over 5'8". Some of them eye level with me in their heels, a few just a bit taller. In my experience, a lot of the taller women are actually the ones that don't have a hang up on a guy having to be towering over them. According to what you recommend, I should just eliminate women 5'8" and above and pretend I don't even notice them. That is just silly. Narrowing my possibilities over per-conceptions that are not even true.

 

Good girls are at church huh? You must not know that many church girls. This is where I made some bad assumptions. I never thought all church girls are good, why would I think that? They're just people. But I met a girl, really religious, very nice, never curses, prays before every meal, super polite to everyone and I tried to date her. It wasn't because she was religious, it was because she was always kind and always cheerful to everyone, with an unshakable faith in her God and that completely blind sided me. She wanted to have sex on the first date. Wasn't even my idea. Some friends that knew her even warned me she only wants to party, I didn't listen. I don't think she had any notion of faith in other people or loyalty. If the cats away, the mouse will play and she had no guilt over it. I thought I was dating her, but I think she was just having sex with me. But then I met her ex-husband and he had all the same problems with her. She is just a party girl and will probably be that until she has trouble finding guys that still want her. I should never have saw her as anything but that. My bad.

 

 

I agree though, if someone you go after does not want you, don't complain, don't be bitter, just move along and find someone that does want you. However you are completely off base to suggest putting limitations on whom guys go after. That Asian guy that has problems with getting white women ...so far...and gets bitter might be wrong for getting bitter, but he is not wrong for going after what he wants. My best friend in highschool had a father that was full blooded Filipino and I think he was either 5'7" or 5'6". He married a full on German (white....) lady that is at least 5'10"...nice body too. His father was not especially rich, but maybe that German girl really wanted American citizenship, I dunno.

[Mrlonelyone]

Imported. I think that many responses missed my point as much of what I said was couched in metaphor and not to be taken litterally. i.e. finding women at church Vs. wherever the heck these guys have been looking.

 

There are exceptions to every rule that does not make a rule generally invalid.

[Imported]

Imported. I think that many responses missed my point as much of what I said was couched in metaphor and not to be taken litterally. i.e. finding women at church Vs. wherever the heck these guys have been looking.

 

There are exceptions to every rule that does not make a rule generally invalid.

 

When there are so many exceptions to these "rules", why even worry about it? People are just people, don't make assumptions and call it a rule.

[Mrlonelyone]

When there are so many exceptions to these "rules", why even worry about it? People are just people, don't make assumptions and call it a rule.

 

There aren't "so many exceptions" otherwise we wouldn't have numerous sticky threads for talking about height, age, etc in mens search for a lover. Going after tall skinny women, as if they are the only ones worthwhile, is making allot of guys miserable.

 

@Fetishman

 

Neither of the two binary genders can claim to own all the good qualities. 90% of women don't throw themselves at tall, white, bad boys. The idea that 90% of women want just one kind of guy or that 20% of men are having sex with 80% of the women is nothing but self defeating talk.

[plainjane79]

I see most people here would agree, that by in large, male gender is more kind and empathetic of the two. Any logical woman would see that and would agree that most women are cold and heartless.

 

But that just mean we guys are stuck to choose from like 10% of nice women, wile other 90% throw them selves at the bad boys....who are also tall...

 

Man, why are there so many comments like this on these forums? I wish somebody would tell this to the men who keep fading on me for no good reason!

[Imported]

There aren't "so many exceptions" otherwise we wouldn't have numerous sticky threads for talking about height, age, etc in mens search for a lover. Going after tall skinny women, as if they are the only ones worthwhile, is making allot of guys miserable.

.

 

Yes, because threads on an internet forum by anonymous people proves something. And I guess you didn't notice it's all from the same very few guys....over and over and over. Somedude has probably started more threads on this board about being short then I have post on all the internet forums I post on total.