Author USMCHokie Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 Is your name really Hokie? In theory, yes. 1
jcrew11 Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 I'm about 20% through the book, and I don't know if I can take this stuff seriously...I mean, he goes on about how he has to go out with his satchel of sargin' gear...magic tricks and notebooks...? Seriously...? I can just see it now...girl offers her number...I reach into my fanny pack and pull out my handy dandy notebook and a crayon to jot it down... Still entertaining nonetheless...will write more after work tonight... The 'tricks' may change, but the mentality of being an "alpha confident ladies man" stays the same. If you can't learn to be "charming" and "interesting" to impress women, then you're not going to get laid.
theredpill Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. You'll get more life skills from this than PUA material... 1
aussietigerwolf Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Do people actually believe that happily committed women will cheat with the biggest alpha?
ascendotum Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Do people actually believe that happily committed women will cheat with the biggest alpha? You're young and in love. Its only a matter of time, and your pic will end up in one these guy's conquest photo libraries.
aussietigerwolf Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 You're young and in love. Its only a matter of time, and your pic will end up in one these guy's conquest photo libraries. Thankfully I am worthless to these idjits as I'm over 25 1
Author USMCHokie Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 Lifestyle Journey For Men: The PUA Scam Thanks for the link. That blog is quite insightful and well-written...Its almost a more entertaining read than the pua stuff... It has definitely changed my perspective and mindset as I continue my "research." And it also makes reading The Game a lot more: 1
Emilia Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Thanks for the link. That blog is quite insightful and well-written...Its almost a more entertaining read than the pua stuff... It has definitely changed my perspective and mindset as I continue my "research." And it also makes reading The Game a lot more: I remember reading it months ago, very good for perspective
ThaWholigan Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Thanks for the link. That blog is quite insightful and well-written...Its almost a more entertaining read than the pua stuff... It has definitely changed my perspective and mindset as I continue my "research." And it also makes reading The Game a lot more: I read that blog a while ago, it's pretty good, as is seduction myth (you might also like that blog). As someone who DOES read PUA, it's important to keep an eye on the detractors because very often they do have good points about the flaws in PUA. I take issue with some of the complaints about PUA that clearly have a purely emotional basis rather than a logical one - these two blogs provide a logical analysis against the practice of PUA.
Eddie Edirol Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Lifestyle Journey For Men: The PUA Scam This is a good article, basically says over and over that womens social fallacies are to be overlooked with PUA, and really, it is if youre just wanting to get laid. You Don't make a habit of criticizing a woman alot if youre trying to get laid. But one thing this said is what many women have said on this board numerous times: PUAs expect that men must take up the slack for women when it comes to dating, while ignoring the fact that women themselves, in many walks of life, show a capacity to take charge and be decisive. Well ya, alot of women want the guy to take charge and lead, theyve said it over and over here. What are you supposed to do, say "hey, you got arms, get your own door!"
Author USMCHokie Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 I read that blog a while ago, it's pretty good, as is seduction myth (you might also like that blog). As someone who DOES read PUA, it's important to keep an eye on the detractors because very often they do have good points about the flaws in PUA. I take issue with some of the complaints about PUA that clearly have a purely emotional basis rather than a logical one - these two blogs provide a logical analysis against the practice of PUA. The logical analysis is what really appeals to me. It reads a lot like something I would write myself. It has definitely changed the way I'm reading the PUA material.
ThaWholigan Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 The logical analysis is what really appeals to me. It reads a lot like something I would write myself. It has definitely changed the way I'm reading the PUA material. Precisely. I know 100% that there is some serious BS in PUA. I had my own preconceived ideas about what it meant to be "good with women" before I read PUA - PUA just helped me understand particular concepts related to how I spoke to women and to be confident and sexual, amongst other things. Outside of that, I never got caught up in the hype of it all nor did I get bogged down in the lingo or the style. So it's good to keep track of some very legitimate detractors of PUA where what they say is a balance to the extreme nature of PUA literature. Like I say, I try not to knock PUA too much because some of it helped me, but a lot of it is straight up bogus. Seduction Myth | Seduction Myth Pinch of salt 2
Author USMCHokie Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 Wearing your green on green striped rugby shirt? Honestly, I commend you for getting that far through the book. I've only ever been able to stomach the shorter how-to articles and the stuff you find on the internet. The overwhelming majority of it is just absolute dross. Even seeing the little I have of your posts on here, I'm pretty sure you're doing just fine without the wisdom of PUAs. You certainly seem far sharper and more down to earth than most of its staunchest advocates. Your humour and intellect are bound to get you far further than anything you'll find in the book you're reading (or anything anyone on this board...self included.. may tell you). There are a handful of you that seem to be on the right track and have the good sense to take the PUA rubbish with a grain of salt. Just don't let yourself take it seriously. If what you're reading sounds like silly crap, it is. It's no different from any other "get rich quick!" scheme. Short-term gain (if any) and long-term failure. Well thanks for the kind words. And funny you mention green on green...it's literally all I have out here... I only take it seriously because I wanted to treat it just like I would treat any other learning venture...and I wanted to do it with as open a mind as I could...but the more I'm exposed to it, the more I can see how opening yourself completely to it can be a dangerous thing. Not only are there so many competing "systems," but some are just downright ludicrous... In The Game, I'm currently reading about a dude who hypotizes women...amazing. And I think my prior life experiences have made me reach a level of "desperation" that has me, like I'm sure many of the PUA advocates, reeling for the easy and "sure" fix...
Author USMCHokie Posted November 22, 2012 Author Posted November 22, 2012 Precisely. I know 100% that there is some serious BS in PUA. I had my own preconceived ideas about what it meant to be "good with women" before I read PUA - PUA just helped me understand particular concepts related to how I spoke to women and to be confident and sexual, amongst other things. Outside of that, I never got caught up in the hype of it all nor did I get bogged down in the lingo or the style. So it's good to keep track of some very legitimate detractors of PUA where what they say is a balance to the extreme nature of PUA literature. Like I say, I try not to knock PUA too much because some of it helped me, but a lot of it is straight up bogus. Seduction Myth | Seduction Myth Pinch of salt I can definitely see what you're saying as I get deeper into this stuff... And as I read more, and especially with those "anti-PUA" websites, I'm beginning to realize that I only need to convince myself of two things: (1) I should go talk to this girl because I'm attracted to her and I think she'll like me, and (2) if I do talk to a girl and it's going well, I have to convince myself that she is interested in me... Both very hard things to do given my underlying issue...which I'm trying to rid myself of with external validation from a string of meaningless sexual encounters. 1
ThaWholigan Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 I can definitely see what you're saying as I get deeper into this stuff... And as I read more, and especially with those "anti-PUA" websites, I'm beginning to realize that I only need to convince myself of two things: (1) I should go talk to this girl because I'm attracted to her and I think she'll like me, and (2) if I do talk to a girl and it's going well, I have to convince myself that she is interested in me... Both very hard things to do given my underlying issue...which I'm trying to rid myself of with external validation from a string of meaningless sexual encounters. It's also worth noting that the "PUA" advice that proved most useful to me is written by guys who do not advertize themselves as PUA, nor do they have much association with the industry outside of a few friends who may contribute to their material. In short, they aren't PUA. Dating advice for men is typically non-PC by nature, but the hardcore PUA elements are very extreme. It's better to find the balance by seeking out books that make up the elements of PUA's pseudo-psychological foundations. Books like Daniel Goleman's Emotional Intelligence, Social Intelligence by the same author, Robert Cialdini's Influence, Flirting Bible etc. Even the Why Him? Why Her? book.
Star Gazer Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 I can definitely see what you're saying as I get deeper into this stuff... And as I read more, and especially with those "anti-PUA" websites, I'm beginning to realize that I only need to convince myself of two things: (1) I should go talk to this girl because I'm attracted to her and I think she'll like me, and (2) if I do talk to a girl and it's going well, I have to convince myself that she is interested in me... Both very hard things to do given my underlying issue...which I'm trying to rid myself of with external validation from a string of meaningless sexual encounters. The problem is, you'd void the underlined by being the guy who does the bolded. 1
AD1980 Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Do people actually believe that happily committed women will cheat with the biggest alpha? Ive seen it attempted in my group of friends.. These married women love their husbands very much but the alpha/leader of our group whos also vey good looking social and sucessful has had all these married women in my social circle at one time or another hit on him cuddle/play footsie with him and overly flirt when alcohol is involved...
ThaWholigan Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Ive seen it attempted in my group of friends.. These married women love their husbands very much but the alpha/leader of our group whos also vey good looking social and sucessful has had all these married women in my social circle at one time or another hit on him cuddle/play footsie with him and overly flirt when alcohol is involved... Can I ask you though...... Have any of them actually gone ahead and f*cked him?
AD1980 Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Can I ask you though...... Have any of them actually gone ahead and f*cked him? No but if he was more of a scumbag and tried to take it to the next level something tells me they wouldnt stop him.. One told a co worker who i know that she danced with him for awhile and how fun and hot it was
ThaWholigan Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 No but if he was more of a scumbag and tried to take it to the next level something tells me they wouldnt stop him.. One told a co worker who i know that she danced with him for awhile and how fun and hot it was You need to hang out with new women dude.
Imported Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Assuming everything goes great and you actually get some action, here is another very useful book She Comes First: The Thinking Man's Guide to Pleasuring a Woman: Ian Kerner: Amazon.com: Kindle Store 1
ThaWholigan Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Assuming everything goes great and you actually get some action, here is another very useful book She Comes First: The Thinking Man's Guide to Pleasuring a Woman: Ian Kerner: Amazon.com: Kindle Store Read this book like 5 times before I got laid
AD1980 Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 You need to hang out with new women dude. Thats the thing these women seemed like fine classy women maybe women just cant control themselves around certain men
Imported Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Read this book like 5 times before I got laid How to Make Love Like a Porn Star: A Cautionary Tale: Jenna Jameson, Neil Strauss: Amazon.com: Kindle Store Just got this one when I went to get the link for the other. Always been meaning to.
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