Moaning about your looks in dating....

[Hawakai]

You are pulling out a psychopathic example to argue normal human relationships?

 

I'm pulling out an example of how good-looks overdrive women's thinking ability. Look it up. Many serial-killers were rather dashing looking fellas and the women they murdered followed them everyhwere, despite knowing/sensing that something was wrong with those guys.

 

You don't understand this because you are not a man, but guys feel like they are doing something wrong when they look at a woman because women have the tendency to brand all of the guys who aren't good-looking as creeps, whereas the good-looking guy can be an ass and he'll still get plenty of sex - including sex from ''good girls''.

 

Normal human relationships? Again, I'm not sure how human relationships work within your age bracket, but people below the age of 35 work like this, in the sexual dynamic:

 

Good-looking guy, gets all the sex. Without effort. Average-looking guy(decent looking, not fat, not balding, not short/not too short) has to meet hundreds upon hundreds of women, face rejection, waste a lot of time and money, and only then he might be lucky to find a date. Not sex.

 

A date. The guy has the chance to entertain the woman long enough, well enough, for her to deign dating the guy until the bigger, better deal comes along.

 

Then he has to be her shrink, her best friend, her protector, her motivator, and her private bank. Maybe he'll be lucky to have sex once a month.

 

Most young women use men they don't know to cause an increase of attraction from their partners for them.

 

Example.

 

Young women, when they're with their partners and walking the street with stare at any decent-looking man(something they'd never do when alone) to make their boyfriend grow jealous and insecure. To do dot on their girlfriends. To spend more resources.

 

Example:

 

Good-looking men know that the pull they have on most women is so powerful, they treat their girlfriends like garbage. They openly cheat on them. They take money from them and never return it. They take the women for granted, which those women are, because women are as visual if not more than men.

 

Its only in their 30's that women's clitoris settles down and decides that its time to find a guy who treats them right. But if I wasn't good enough for the average woman(because I'm just the average guy and women have the possibility to reach for brighter stars), why am I suddenly stupid enough to be with a 25+ woman?

 

This is how many men think. With the exception of the white knights who seem to live in the Kingdom of Narnia, where goodness, kindness, dedication and the will to provide for women is not only vastly desired by women, but super hot women are throwing themselves at these guys .

[Hawakai]

So this topic went from fashion/style to the typical "why do women pick jerks?" and the usual rebuttal of how guys only want skinny shallow pretty girls with big boobs.

 

Ugh.

 

Until a pill is developed to curb men's sexual desires,(chemical castration still has too many side-effects) yeah.

[VeveCakes]

Even if its true...what does sitting around moping about your looks do to improve your life?

 

For what it's worth I have dated many average looking men, and have been very attracted to an overweight man also.

 

I married a man who turned me on sexually more than any other man ever has.

[ThaWholigan]

Even if its true...what does sitting around moping about your looks do to improve your life?

 

Absolutely nothing.

[Lonely Ronin]

Absolutely nothing.

 

To them it's justification and Vindication through demonification.

 

If they can demonify, women and make it all all their fault, then their lack of success & attitude is justified. When they post their vitriol BS on LS, each person that agrees with them is Vindication that their point of view is right.

[GirlontheLam]

I'm pulling out an example of how good-looks overdrive women's thinking ability. Look it up. Many serial-killers were rather dashing looking fellas and the women they murdered followed them everyhwere, despite knowing/sensing that something was wrong with those guys.

Serial killers have charisma. Has nothing to do with looks.

 

You don't understand this because you are not a man, but guys feel like they are doing something wrong when they look at a woman because women have the tendency to brand all of the guys who aren't good-looking as creeps, whereas the good-looking guy can be an ass and he'll still get plenty of sex - including sex from ''good girls''.

 

Well the men I have labeled have creepy or that I have had the creepiest encounters with have ranged from good looking to hot, so I don't know where you are getting this idea. They looked good, but they were still creeps. (Many of these occurrences happened between the ages of 18-25 for me)

[FitChick]

If all of a man's dating problems are due to his being physically unattractive, that seems like an easy fix. It's easier to fix the outside than the inside.

 

Of course, it's always easier to complain.

[AD1980]

If all of a man's dating problems are due to his being physically unattractive, that seems like an easy fix. It's easier to fix the outside than the inside.

 

Of course, it's always easier to complain.

 

Its easier to fix an unattractive face then a personality?

[Lonely Ronin]

Its easier to fix an unattractive face then a personality?

 

sarcasm my friend, sarcasm....

[xxoo]

I'm pulling out an example of how good-looks overdrive women's thinking ability. Look it up. Many serial-killers were rather dashing looking fellas and the women they murdered followed them everyhwere, despite knowing/sensing that something was wrong with those guys.

 

Psychopaths are able to key in on how to manipulate people, and fake emotions. So they know exactly how to get women to feel great, and use it for evil.

 

Men who are good with women know how to make women feel great, and can use it for good!

 

The big point you are missing is that men who make women feel great, important, special, etc do just as well (or better) than good looking "douche" types.

[AlexDP]

Those are farcical cartoons, not reality shows, and the slobbishness of the male -cartoons- is part of the joke. Personally, I'd take neither of those -cartoon- females to bed, and doubt many other men would either.

 

Many jokes refer to our experiences. The Simpsons in particular does this quite a lot. Also, it is made very clear throughout both shows that the wives are very attractive in their respective worlds.

 

This does refer to our experience, because we all know that "How did he get her?" - moment.

[dasein]

Saying again, in cartoons, those two in particular, the slobbishness of the husband is merely part of the running joke, not any kind of statement about differing male and female perceptions and standards of attractiveness.

 

What it is, though, is part of a disturbing entertaiment/social trend to portray men as alternatively buffoons, studs, sexually depraved or corrupt, and women as saintly, all knowing, all wise, long suffering victims.

[AlexDP]

Saying again, in cartoons, those two in particular, the slobbishness of the husband is merely part of the running joke, not any kind of statement about differing male and female perceptions and standards of attractiveness.

 

What it is, though, is part of a disturbing entertaiment/social trend to portray men as alternatively buffoons, studs, sexually depraved or corrupt, and women as saintly, all knowing, all wise, long suffering victims.

 

Oh please. Marge is depicted as a nagging woman who cannot enjoy herself and takes herself far too seriously. Homer is at times praised for being the exact opposite. Lisa is mocked for being so self righteous.

[dasein]

Over many seasons and shows, I'm sure every aspect of the characters has been explored, doesn't change one bit the fact that the crux of the show is that Homer is the supreme buffoon, depicted mostly negatively, and Marge and Lisa usually portrayed favorably as women are in entertainment today. Anyway, discussions of cartoons were silly when brought into this thread and silly now, so this will be my last derail on cartoons.

[AlexDP]

Over many seasons and shows, I'm sure every aspect of the characters has been explored, doesn't change one bit the fact that the crux of the show is that Homer is the supreme buffoon, depicted mostly negatively, and Marge and Lisa usually portrayed favorably as women are in entertainment today. Anyway, discussions of cartoons were silly when brought into this thread and silly now, so this will be my last derail on cartoons.

 

My point is that this is not a general trend. Sure, men are often depicted as people who like beer and sports... But I do honestly like beer and sports a lot. And hell, I like lifting weights as well. I understand this means some women will think of me as a stereotype. But in all honesty, it's very few.

 

What I do see however, and what is truly a problem, is people assuming that young men are dangerous. It ranges from debating whether young men should be able to get their driver's licence to seeing them all as potential rapists.

[Lonely Ronin]

What I do see however, and what is truly a problem, is people assuming that young men are dangerous. It ranges from debating whether young men should be able to get their driver's licence to seeing them all as potential rapists.

 

it's not surprising, just look at some of the predatory behavior espoused in this thread.

[Hawakai]

it's not surprising, just look at some of the predatory behavior espoused in this thread.

 

Yeah, when a guy displays what is wrong with a situation he's showing his ''true colours.'' Just like when I heard this homeless vet tell me that the govt. didn't care at all about him. I instantly thought: bitter, angry old man.

Edited November 17, 2012 by a LoveShack.org Moderator