TaurusTerp Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Answer this then: What if that random guy was someone that you knew? A friend or family member. Would you place any blame on him? Sure. Family or friend has a duty towards me. I would never screw one of my friend's significant others. I'm there for their problems, to help them with their problems. The point was that it's not my responsibility to help a stranger with his relationship. Just like I wouldn't give some rando relationship advice, but would for a friend.
Pyro Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Sure. Family or friend has a duty towards me. I would never screw one of my friend's significant others. I'm there for their problems, to help them with their problems. The point was that it's not my responsibility to help a stranger with his relationship. Just like I wouldn't give some rando relationship advice, but would for a friend. So you are saying then that you have two different standards when it comes to a stranger versus someone that you know? (Someone who knows up front that you have a GF)
TaurusTerp Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 So you are saying then that you have two different standards when it comes to a stranger versus someone that you know? (Someone who knows up front that you have a GF) Sure, if you want to call that a double standard I guess guilty as charged.
Under The Radar Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 And here we go again for yet another round of morality boxing Good luck guys - make sure you touch gloves before you go back to your corners.
Pyro Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 And here we go again for yet another round of morality boxing Good luck guys - make sure you touch gloves before you go back to your corners. That won't be necessary. My work here is done.
sweetjasmine Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Why would you pass an alcoholic a beer? Benefits you in no way, and hurts the alcoholic. Okay, say you're a bartender, then. Would you keep selling to someone you know is an alcoholic? Hey, if someone's going to make money off the guy, it might as well be you. Even if you find it acceptable, you can't deny that it IS enabling. Someone you know has a family with super cute kids and a beautiful wife, but has fallen on hard times. You are both applying to the same job. If he doesn't get the job, his family will all starve to death. Are you obligated to give up the job to help him? This analogy doesn't work because a job is a necessity. Having sex with someone who's taken isn't. Nobody ever lost their house because they turned down sex with a taken person. Hurting someone or refusing to help someone because you absolutely need something is different from hurting someone because you're too lazy to look for fun elsewhere and can't say no because you don't give a f&%# who you hurt as long as you get what you want. 1
TaurusTerp Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Okay, say you're a bartender, then. Would you keep selling to someone you know is an alcoholic? Hey, if someone's going to make money off the guy, it might as well be you. Even if you find it acceptable, you can't deny that it IS enabling. This analogy doesn't work because a job is a necessity. Having sex with someone who's taken isn't. Nobody ever lost their house because they turned down sex with a taken person. Hurting someone or refusing to help someone because you absolutely need something is different from hurting someone because you're too lazy to look for fun elsewhere and can't say no because you don't give a f&%# who you hurt as long as you get what you want. How about all analogies are flawed and stupid so let's stop using them. Nobody can die of being cheated on, alcoholism can cause a lot of health problems. Duh.
amaysngrace Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 That won't be necessary. My work here is done. TKO Round 2. 2
EasyHeart Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Answer this then: What if that random guy was someone that you knew? A friend or family member. Would you place any blame on him?You're adding a second relationship to they hypothetical. Most of us expect our friends and family to stay away from our spouses and SOs. If I were to screw my friends' GF, then I can expect my friend to be mad at me and end our friendship because I violated our friendship, or to at least make sure he never leaves me alone with his future GFs. If it's a stranger's GF, I have no relationship with him and therefore no obligations to him. I don't expect him to LIKE me -- I out-competed him and he will naturally be jealous of me -- but I did not breach any promises to him. I think it's silly to claim that someone who slept with a married or dating person doesn't respect relationships simply because it's not true. He/she was not involved in any relationship, so by definition he/she could not have violated or disrespected any relationship.
youdunsay Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 I think the worst part is when you realized you are being used as a teasing subject between two pros (a man and a woman) and the man actually has never like you before merely using you as a ego booster. So is the woman.
veggirl Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 I wouldn't simply because I'd think damn how pathetic are you that you had to go after someone who wasn't even single? And if they actually carried on an affair over months etc...then I'd reallyyyy find them pathetic. What a turn off!
Pyro Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 You're adding a second relationship to they hypothetical. Most of us expect our friends and family to stay away from our spouses and SOs. If I were to screw my friends' GF, then I can expect my friend to be mad at me and end our friendship because I violated our friendship, or to at least make sure he never leaves me alone with his future GFs. If it's a stranger's GF, I have no relationship with him and therefore no obligations to him. I don't expect him to LIKE me -- I out-competed him and he will naturally be jealous of me -- but I did not breach any promises to him. I think it's silly to claim that someone who slept with a married or dating person doesn't respect relationships simply because it's not true. He/she was not involved in any relationship, so by definition he/she could not have violated or disrespected any relationship. No need to explain any further.
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