Jane2011 Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Never. And by "older" I don't mean 85 (unless we're talking about a big inheritance then it's a case by case situation) but probably 10-12 years older I guess. I see. Thanks for clarifying. Your first statement said that age is more important than appearance, but you meant it in favor of age rather than in favor of youth.
Eternal Sunshine Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Ha ha ha. I have always dated guys few years younger than me. Still no problems there I actually try to get depressed about aging when I see these threads. Then I look at my face without any make up and think: Damn I look good!
Leigh 87 Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 I do not think you need surgery necessarily to look good into middle ad older age. I am going to take up natural living as I age - you know, a lot of raw food, green veggies, protein and veggies with most meals, little processed food.... I am also going to go totally natural make up - no nasty chemicals. I am not quiet disciplined enough to do all this NOW, however, ladies who eat natural food, use non damaging cosmetics, and who are happy, healthy, and very FIT - are SURE to look a good 10 years younger than their real age. An important factor to consider, is: an ugly person is always ugly unless they have surgery; and an average looking person will always have to work out (to compensate for their butter face) a lot and apply some make up to look cute and "hot"to most people. Young or old. But I am average to cute, with some guys thinking I am very attractive but not all or most men I would guess. So.... I believe I can look attractive when I am 30 - 40, if I live really well, stress less, and only put good foods into my body. Although I may look good for my age and have no trouble getting dates in my 30's and 40's, I will not compete with a good looking 25 year old when I am 40. A good looking 25 year old will be more attractive to a 40 year old man, than a good looking 40 year old women. .........But I see over weight teens that to not take care of themselves, who look less attractive than a fit 30 year old; again though, this is only applicable if BOTH people are of the same looks. 1
kaylan Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Bahahahahaa!!! If your 50 year old men friends look like the majority of 50 year old men out there, it's no WONDER their wives aren't "lubricating" for them. lmao...mega burn. Too funny. Ha ha ha. I have always dated guys few years younger than me. Still no problems there I actually try to get depressed about aging when I see these threads. Then I look at my face without any make up and think: Damn I look good! No doubt if I was in Aussie land, Id hit you up. Edited November 6, 2012 by kaylan 1
River Rain Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Also, appearance is more important to me than age in general. Last year, the guy I dated was 35. The one I'm with now is 25. The 35 year old and the 25 year-old look about the same age (both of them generally young-looking and fit). I don't care how old either one of them is; I just liked that they were both fit and good-looking. That's how I feel too. Age is important only when it comes to cultural references and compatibility in conversation. I'm 44 and I met a 28 year old who knew so much about my generation based on him being the youngest of a large brood. He was very handsome and physically fit and I was attracted to him. On the other hand, I also met a 46 year old who looked like he was well into his 60's because he wasn't leading a healthy lifestyle, and it just didn't do it for me. I'm often told I don't look my age, and I can tell you that is a great compliment.
threebyfate Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Doesn't matter whether women look younger or are younger. The youth fixation is annoying. 3
sweetjasmine Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 Doesn't matter whether women look younger or are younger. The youth fixation is annoying. Agreed. One of the reasons why I refuse to dye the sparkly silver in my hair. 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I wonder if this works the same way (but in reverse) for a guy like me who looks 10-15 years older than his age...
threebyfate Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Gwyneth Paltrow looks amazing and I love that she's 100% natural (no plastic surgery)Good to hear that she doesn't bend to the cosmetic surgery silliness. But I hate the way she dresses since she opts for looks that suit someone more edgy like Jada Pinkett-Smith. Her choices are too young and edgy for her. GP has the tall, statuesque, mildly English country-side beauty. I can see her in herringbone, plaid, rubber boots, riding outfit/jodhpurs, glamorous long gowns and lovely classic suits and dresses.
River Rain Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I wonder if this works the same way (but in reverse) for a guy like me who looks 10-15 years older than his age... In what way do you mean?
dasein Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Don't know what thread has to do with dating, more apt in on the health board, but ok. I agree that age is increasingly just a number in many ways. The woman with the best body (in literally every way) I dated was 38 and the one I still fantasize about most to this day was 33. Have dated lots of young women too relatively recently, but young women often don't put as much care into health because they don't "have to," and have seen lots of younger women with acne, baggy eyes, rough skin due to partying, lack of exercise, sun damage and poor diet. Plus they tend to shriek and screech after only a little booze which moves a 9 to a 6 in my book instantly, even if it's in ecstasy. Have seen lots of 30+ women who absolutely shame the young ones due to yoga and aerobics, good diet, etc. Same is true of men. It really is case by case up to 50 or so, then little cracks invade and the inevitable slide begins for us all, which means little as there's more to life than perfectly firm gravity defying tits or a rock hard dick four times a night. I don't agree that celebrities are a good gauge of this though, male or female. Too good at illusion, and someone who can afford it can definitely fool the camera for decades. 1
River Rain Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I don't agree that celebrities are a good gauge of this though, male or female. Too good at illusion, and someone who can afford it can definitely fool the camera for decades. Fool the camera, well said.
Ruby Slippers Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 It really is case by case up to 50 or so, then little cracks invade and the inevitable slide begins for us all, which means little as there's more to life than perfectly firm gravity defying tits or a rock hard dick four times a night. I don't agree that celebrities are a good gauge of this though, male or female. Too good at illusion, and someone who can afford it can definitely fool the camera for decades. Totally agree! Also, I don't have a preference for younger or older men. I'm just looking for the RIGHT man, and as long as he's right, I'm not too concerned with age. I don't appreciate the age bashing toward older women or men. I love my older friends. They've been through more and are wiser and more laid back about life. They're people who've been around longer, know more. I think really old people can be very cool and just full of wisdom. Until the past couple of years, I completely ruled out younger men. But I kept meeting so many cool, smart ones that I gave it a shot with a couple. There are pros and cons to dating older and younger, for men and women. Both sexes are generally less battle-hardened when younger, and know better how to appreciate a romantic partner when older. I have some clients in their 50s and 60s - almost all successful businessmen - who I think are sexy as hell. They've already proven themselves, and now they just want to enjoy and make some magic happen. 2
Jane2011 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Doesn't matter whether women look younger or are younger. The youth fixation is annoying. Well, of course it's annoying when you refer to wanting to look young or liking to look young as a "fixation." For most people, it's not a fixation; they just like the younger-looking version of themselves (within reason) than an aging version of themselves. Sure, some people go too far, getting surgery after surgery, maybe even having secret self-loathing - who knows. But I don't think most people fall in that category; they just want to keep youthful looks. Or in many cases, they don't do anything to make sure they stay young, they just happen to still look young and will mention it. There are a lot of people who say they accept their aging and don't want to do the things other people do (like dying grey hairs), but it doesn't mean that they too wouldn't prefer the younger-looking version of themselves (if that younger version was more aesthetically pleasing, which isn't always the case, but often enough is.) They just have a different attitude about how much effort to put into it, or whether to do anything about it at all. Personally, I go out of my way to stay fit, not young. It's just that effect of staying fit is often looking young.
Ruby Slippers Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Personally, I go out of my way to stay fit, not young. It's just that effect of staying fit is often looking young. Exactly. My 40-year-old friend dating the 26-year-old seriously looks like she's in her 20s. The woman just looks ageless. And you know what's in her fridge? Fresh fruits, vegetables, yogurt, super-clean stuff, and NOTHING else. The only time she eats a burger or something indulgent is when she goes out to eat. She's also active, does yoga almost daily, has a fun, active social circle, and has a very positive attitude. Nothing gets her down for long. 1
threebyfate Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Well, of course it's annoying when you refer to wanting to look young or liking to look young as a "fixation." For most people, it's not a fixation; they just like the younger-looking version of themselves (within reason) than an aging version of themselves. Sure, some people go too far, getting surgery after surgery, maybe even having secret self-loathing - who knows. But I don't think most people fall in that category; they just want to keep youthful looks. Or in many cases, they don't do anything to make sure they stay young, they just happen to still look young and will mention it. There are a lot of people who say they accept their aging and don't want to do the things other people do (like dying grey hairs), but it doesn't mean that they too wouldn't prefer the younger-looking version of themselves (if that younger version was more aesthetically pleasing, which isn't always the case, but often enough is.) They just have a different attitude about how much effort to put into it, or whether to do anything about it at all. Personally, I go out of my way to stay fit, not young. It's just that effect of staying fit is often looking young.Consider how you're wording this. It assumes fitness and being thin, equals youth. That beauty equals youth. There are looks at any age where health and fitness are incorporated. Very clever marketing by business, that youth equates to beauty where most have bought into it, from porn to Vogue. This business practice benefits big pharmas, health care workers, cosmetic surgeons, laser eye surgeons, the entire medical, fashion, entertainment...everything. Pretty scary if you honestly consider it. 1
rocketman122 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 These women are great examples of making an effort to look good regardless of age. Compare them to younger women or women of similar age who can't be bothered. It's why you can't make blanket statements about "___ years of age is the deadline for looking good." Unless you are a man who never dates, of course. In which case you don't know any better. And don't give me crap about botox, filler, surgery, etc. Who cares how they got that way as long as it's a great end result that turns their men on? I have yet to meet a man who doesn't want to be seen with a good looking woman whether he's married to her or not. one of the big things I love about my GF is that she always put effort to pretty herself up for me. she puts on her makeup, her high heels, does her nails, always wears lingerie. I love it. I also do the same for her. I always dress nice. hygiene ,grooming and working out is very important to me. it makes a big difference in the relationship IMO. it bounced back and forth between the couple. she looks great and it turns me on and I look great for her so she gets turned on. it does wonders in lovemaking as well. I love showing her off when were out. I hold her close..you can look, but that psssy is mind. back off! I think relationships start sinking when the couple takes thing for granted and start to let themselves go. im constantly aware of it and force myself to make an effort. once you stop, youre screwed. 3
Ruby Slippers Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 one of the big things I love about my GF is that she always put effort to pretty herself up for me. she puts on her makeup, her high heels, does her nails, always wears lingerie. I love it. I also do the same for her. I always dress nice. hygiene ,grooming and working out is very important to me. it makes a big difference in the relationship IMO. it bounced back and forth between the couple. she looks great and it turns me on and I look great for her so she gets turned on. it does wonders in lovemaking as well. I love showing her off when were out. I hold her close..you can look, but that psssy is mind. back off! I think relationships start sinking when the couple takes thing for granted and start to let themselves go. im constantly aware of it and force myself to make an effort. once you stop, youre screwed. Totally agree. I LOVE when my man dresses up and looks hot for me. It's such a turn-on! All these ladies are looking, but he's giving me his attention and showing me off, too. Hotness! 1
yongyong Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 It is a very insulting to women when men say 'you are done once you are over 30' I don't think age matters. I don't mind dating someone a lot older (dated one before) as long as she looks like my age. (generally it's embarrassing for men to date someone looking like his big sister) In the end, it all comes down to the face. I would rather date a pretty 30 year old woman than ugly 20 year old young girl. I am sure all men would agree
rocketman122 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) Age is more important than appearance. I'd rather date an older woman regardless of looks, than a younger "better" looking woman... not exactly true for me, but I prefer woman who are older than me. im41 and love woman who are 40+ preferably 4+ years. younger woman..meh..it not for me. not to offend younger girls but I prefer older. Edited November 7, 2012 by rocketman122
Author FitChick Posted November 7, 2012 Author Posted November 7, 2012 I recently dated two men: One was 48, tall, balding with brown hair, about thirty pounds overweight, no muscle tone and a belly (was dieting), didn't do any exercise. He went to a spa every week for steam and massage ("I wish I could go everyday.") The other was 65, tall, slim and muscular with beautiful salt and pepper hair, handsome face, watched his diet carefully, took his dog for a run twice a day, hiked frequently with his grown son and twice a year (summer and winter) climbed a mountain with the son. He was very active on a daily basis, gardening, cooking, fixing his house and car, do it yourself projects, etc. Sure, the first man was chronologically younger but the second one was more attractive and had more energy which made him appear younger. I don't know about some of you, but I don't recall ever sleeping with a man's birth certificate (or being sexually attracted to it).
kaylan Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 ^But none of that changes the fact that age affects appearance and ones ability to maintain their fitness and appearance. This is why younger people tend to be the most attractive. Its not saying younger folks will always be the most attractive people you meet, or that older people cannot be attractive...its simply saying most people you meet who are physically attractive will be younger (under 40). Im open to dating older women than myself who are fit and sexy, but when I look at all the women I see in the world, its easy for me to realize that most attractive women are closer to my age than further away from it.
mysteryscape Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I found on OLD that even with pics, age of women who were interested was MUCH more restricted than in real life. ended up with OLD woman who was 15 or 20 years younger -- but IRL could have gone younger. Women who are middle aged or older: get your asses moving, and get to a gym (which can easily be at home) and do some work with LIGHT weights. This is far better than wasting 300 bucks at a beauty parlor when you are fat, out of shape, and in a bad mood. You can be 65 and if in good shape, doing things with your mind and body, and sexy as hell! Or 10, 20, even 30 years younger and not attractive at all.
kaylan Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 ^Your advice applies to older men as well. Tbh I see FAR more fit and attractive older women out in the world than older men. Which is a big reason why I think older woman-younger man relationships have increased.
Under The Radar Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 We have no control over our chronological age. For instance, I'm 38 and nothing is going to change that. Come April, I'll be 39 and the process continues. My biological age is younger than 38 because of my lifestyle. I look younger than 38 due to many factors:I avoid drugs and excessive alcohol.I get enough sleep.I manage stress and have outlets.Meaningful relationships that allow me to be loved and love back.Good nutritional intake (including lots of water).Exercise (with an emphasis on balance between cardio,strength, and flexibilty).Avoiding too much exposure to the sun.We all have the ability to control our aging to a large degree through lifestyle choices.
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