Women, sexually attracted to money?

[kaylan]

So I took my occasional venture over to an old PUA forum I used to be on. Not that I ever believed in all of their mumbo jumbo...quite the contrary. I tried to be a voice on reason on that forum so young dudes wouldnt have their minds polluted.

 

Anyways I was debating with one guy today about whether women are sexually attracted to money/status/fame. He said yes. I said no. I said women will trade sex and looks to get a piece of the status and fame a guy has...but that in no way means the money is what gets her wet at night. In a purely sexual, jump your bones sense, I havent had girls want to do me because of any perceived status. Its always been because they thought I was cute and liked my body well enough to get turned on. My personality helped a little too of course.

 

Anyways, I cited examples to this guy, of who women tend to swoon over. And its not rich ugly guys. Its good looking guys with nice physiques in general. If you take away the money, the rich guy loses the sex hes getting unless he has the sex appeal to back it up. Ive seen good looking guys land hot girls a lot of the time, no matter if they are poor, middle class, or rich.

 

On the other hand, its super rare (practically never) that I see a guy who looks like Donald Trump or Al Bundy land a hot girl if hes lower or middle class.

 

Thoughts?

Edited November 3, 2012 by kaylan

[kaylan]

PS - My thoughts is that the idea of women trading beauty for wealth is pretty much a product of most of our societies wealth being held by men. As women have been making more money as time rolls along, its not hard to find stories online of younger guys dating and marrying significantly older women, or women who arent much attractive.

[mesmerized]

I sometimes shake my full of coins wallet and masturbate to the noise, soo hot.

[kaylan]

One more thing;

 

When I see stories of older men and women taking young spouses, I wonder if they actually believe its true love. Because theres high change the younger person is just trying to get a bump in lifestyle while scheming behind their back. Especially young men. Do we really think a young man whos married into money is just going to ignore all the hot women who will be giving him attention now?

[yongyong]

You are saying those PUAs are telling B.S.

Sure, they say status/money game tops all other game.

So what does it tell other guys to do? work on spitting some lines? Or work on your career??

 

You seem like one of those guys who just complains about looks 'he's better looking, that's why'. you are saying this genetic thing tops all other factors so you shouldn't even try.

It's like a fat kid saying 'My gene is different than yours'

[GirlontheLam]

I sometimes shake my full of coins wallet and masturbate to the noise, soo hot.

 

[TheBigQuestion]

I knew this girl back in high school who, as bizarre and disgusting as it sounds, freely admitted to masturbating with rolls of quarters. Does that count? Naturally, everyone's nickname for her was "Quarters."

[xdahliax]

I knew this girl back in high school who, as bizarre and disgusting as it sounds, freely admitted to masturbating with rolls of quarters. Does that count? Naturally, everyone's nickname for her was "Quarters."

 

That's depressing. Not only does she tell everyone, she's pretty cheap.

[TheBigQuestion]

That's depressing. Not only does she tell everyone, she's pretty cheap.

 

Agreed.

 

Addressing the OP a little more seriously though, I really do think that looks and charm have more of an impact on whether a woman will sleep with you than the size of your wallet will. In fact, one of the essential premises of most PUA "programs" or "philosophies" is that you don't really need money at all to be successful with women. It doesn't surprise me that someone on a PUA message board would say something like that though. Most such guys are hardly PUAs themselves, just a bunch of guys trying to one-up each other on how tough they appear.

[ThaWholigan]

You are saying those PUAs are telling B.S.

Sure, they say status/money game tops all other game.

So what does it tell other guys to do? work on spitting some lines? Or work on your career??

 

You seem like one of those guys who just complains about looks 'he's better looking, that's why'. you are saying this genetic thing tops all other factors so you shouldn't even try.

It's like a fat kid saying 'My gene is different than yours'

 

He's not saying that, everybody should try. But genes play a part in sexual attraction, full stop. Doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

 

 

:lmao: perfect.

[sweetkiwi]

money has no affect on my desire sexually. I know plenty of women my age or a bit older who put money right up there with attractiveness.

 

Every woman makes a choice. Wallet? Or caulk? I choose caulk every single time.

[kaylan]

You are saying those PUAs are telling B.S.

Sure, they say status/money game tops all other game.

So what does it tell other guys to do? work on spitting some lines? Or work on your career??

Something tell me you arent familiar with my posts. I call PUAs BS because they give some decent common sense advice, mixed with a lot of over-analytical, misogynistic, mental masturbatory bullcrap. Status and money dont top all other qualities in my opinion. It simply makes you a target for fakes and user-type women.

You seem like one of those guys who just complains about looks 'he's better looking, that's why'. you are saying this genetic thing tops all other factors so you shouldn't even try.

It's like a fat kid saying 'My gene is different than yours'

Wow you REALLY dont read my posts if you think Im one of those guys who complains about looks. Im actually the guy who tells other dudes to stop whining about look and to highlight their own attributes.

 

I never say "looks tops everything so dont even try". Im saying looks is what triggers initial sexual attraction in most people. And personality can help in that as well. Im saying money doesnt work in the same way.

 

PS - a fat kid doesnt have to be fat. He can get slimmer.

Being a not-so-young-woman, I can tell you your priorities change radically when it comes to finding a mate as you get older. The idea of "true love" (or the myth of romantic, to-die-for love) no longer appeals to me personally. It's exhausting and it doesn't last. I'd much rather cut out that honeymoon phase and get right to the life partner bit. I want a loyal, sexy, supportive, and fun partner who can roll with the punches... if he doesn't love me, that's fine, as long as he really likes me. Way too much is made of "true love" IMHO.

Even if its not true love, a young person whos with someone significantly older or less attractive on the (assumed) pretenses of upgraded status, isnt necessarily going to have feelings of loyalty, support, etc. Love is what fosters all of that usually.

So, getting back to your question, I highly doubt moderately intelligent men over 40 actually believe it's true love when they marry someone half their age. It's a status thing and an attempt to recapture youth/prove to themselves they're as hot as they ever were. Only the totally oblivious, or daft, old man would be foolish enough to think it's looooooove with a big L.

I dunno, youd be surprised how many guys date younger girls thinking its real love, and then get thrown for a loop. Its happened to celebs and its happened to regular guys. You can ask around a group of men or read forums online. Sometimes guys think too much with their pants, or their heart, and not with their logical mind.

Edited November 3, 2012 by kaylan

[xdahliax]

Status and money dont top all other qualities in my opinion. It simply makes you a target for fakes and user-type women.

.

 

Many men of means know this and are okay with it. The woman is using the man for his status and funds, but the man is also using the woman for her looks and youth. The man is not really a target or victim. It is essentially transaction that benefits everyone involved. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you want.

[kaylan]

Many men of means know this and are okay with it. The woman is using the man for his status and funds, but the man is also using the woman for her looks and youth. The man is not really a target or victim. It is essentially transaction that benefits everyone involved. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you want.

I agree some men know this and are ok with it. But Ive also heard many men whine and complain about this.

@kaylan

 

Then I would say there are a lot of oblivious, daft old men.

I guess so

Edited November 3, 2012 by kaylan

[yongyong]

The thing is all women here think, girls who are hotter than themselves are all stupid and have problems with personalities.

 

That's the problem I see.

 

I am going to guess you are an average personality and average looks.

 

Now there are many guys with those traits plus more $$ and status.

(or do you think they are all retards with cocaine problem)

You don't think those guys will top guys with average jobs?

[dasein]

Are "women" sexually attracted to money? Of course not. Have I watched lots of nipples get real hard when introducing -individual- women to very wealthy people? I sure have. Have I experienced individual women coming harder when the money is flowing in lush surroundings? I sure have. Have I seen -lots- of women gasping, pupils dilating, skin flushing when cooing over an engagement ring? I sure have. Do I think Chris Rock speaks the truth about this specific phenomenon? I sure do.

 

Saying that "women" don't get sexually stimulated by money is a very broad generalization. Surprisingly, the "chorus" isn't all up in arms about this particular generalization. Wonder why? I know why.

[aj22one]

Some women go for money, some go for looks, and some just go for the only normal looking dude at a Ron Paul rally. haha

 

People are sexually attracted to different stuff.

[sweetkiwi]

i for one am outraged!! Just kidding. I have had both sides of the coin in my personal and romantic lives. The money made no difference. To me.

 

There are two kinds of people. Those who value things. And those who value experiences with people. I much prefer the latter. Nothing wrong with women who get wet for diamonds.

I hope there's someone to buy them. Or they buy them for themselves.

[TheBigQuestion]

Are "women" sexually attracted to money? Of course not. Have I watched lots of nipples get real hard when introducing -individual- women to very wealthy people? I sure have. Have I experienced individual women coming harder when the money is flowing in lush surroundings? I sure have. Have I seen -lots- of women gasping, pupils dilating, skin flushing when cooing over an engagement ring? I sure have. Do I think Chris Rock speaks the truth about this specific phenomenon? I sure do.

 

Saying that "women" don't get sexually stimulated by money is a very broad generalization. Surprisingly, the "chorus" isn't all up in arms about this particular generalization. Wonder why? I know why.

 

What I've gathered from your posts over the years is that you have a firm belief that a good percentage of women (but not most or all, so don't think I'm mischaracterizing you) are essentially hypergamous. I also understand that your (our?) profession, especially at the non-social justice/legal services level, generally is riddled with wealthy, status-obsessed, surface-oriented people. What impact, if any, do you think this has on your experiences with women as they pertain to this thread? I almost feel like the social and professional groups with whom you associate tend to self-select for materialistic people.

[kae]

I'm sexually attracted to integrity. When a man is honest or purposeful or protective I get excited. I might not be attracted to him full on but I see him differently when I see those qualities. I have never been a looks matter kind of person. Good looks, money or "charm" don't impress me. And if it doesn't impress me, it doesn't turn me on..

[Ami1uwant]

So I took my occasional venture over to an old PUA forum I used to be on. Not that I ever believed in all of their mumbo jumbo...quite the contrary. I tried to be a voice on reason on that forum so young dudes wouldnt have their minds polluted.

 

Anyways I was debating with one guy today about whether women are sexually attracted to money/status/fame. He said yes. I said no. I said women will trade sex and looks to get a piece of the status and fame a guy has...but that in no way means the money is what gets her wet at night. In a purely sexual, jump your bones sense, I havent had girls want to do me because of any perceived status. Its always been because they thought I was cute and liked my body well enough to get turned on. My personality helped a little too of course.

 

Anyways, I cited examples to this guy, of who women tend to swoon over. And its not rich ugly guys. Its good looking guys with nice physiques in general. If you take away the money, the rich guy loses the sex hes getting unless he has the sex appeal to back it up. Ive seen good looking guys land hot girls a lot of the time, no matter if they are poor, middle class, or rich.

 

On the other hand, its super rare (practically never) that I see a guy who looks like Donald Trump or Al Bundy land a hot girl if hes lower or middle class.

 

Thoughts?

 

Bill Gates

 

Hugh Hefner

 

Larry King

 

Then there are sites that cater toward wealthy men for a very attractive woman.

[KraftDinner]

Here goes yet another cliche, but it really is true that women are often attracted to power.

 

I think someone can meet a guy with lots of money and feel turned on by that, yes. But let them have a real relationship...and you'll see the guy coming here complaining that his girlfriend doesn't want to have sex with him like they used to.

 

In other words, the power is a turn-on...but once that woman has the status that she wants...well, nothing beats a young guy with a hot body, no matter how much money someone has.

 

This is only some women of course. I'm not a gold-digger, personally. I prefer younger guys and I really don't care much about money or status.

[kaylan]

Bill Gates

 

Hugh Hefner

 

Larry King

 

Then there are sites that cater toward wealthy men for a very attractive woman.

Did you even read, let alone understand, what my OP was asking?

[KraftDinner]

Bill Gates

 

Hugh Hefner

 

Larry King

 

Then there are sites that cater toward wealthy men for a very attractive woman.

 

Kaylan said lower or middle class. These guys are billionaires.

[KraftDinner]

Posted at the same time, haha!