Pyro Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I think just not being fat matters more than being a body builder type & being lean matters more than skinny fat. Exactly and some women aren't turned on by a body builder type so in the end I think that Kaylan has it right with the 'soccer body' statement.
kaylan Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Women always say such stupid things. It's like men saying 'I don't care about her looks. It's about her personality' Would you believe when someone says this sxit? No, men want a cute looking chick with a sweet personality. There are tons of smart guys in shape who do healthy activities. Isn't that what you want? then why do you spit out such sxits? does it make you feel more 'humane'? Cant believe I am agreeing with you. But you are very right. Fit smart guys arent super rarities. People always describe things in extremes...like if someone is smart they must be unattractive, or if they are hot they must be dumb. And people are always trying to put down a good looking person by saying things like "ill always take the smart person over them". Well guess what folks? Its not like the hot person, whom you assume is dumb, is having any trouble getting dates. People are complex and variable folks. I have my moments where Im a conceited douche whos concerned about my looks. And then I have my moments where I debate some sort of political ideal or where I get immersed in a philosophical discussion. 1
SJC2008 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I agree. Many women don't really care much about body type. Others have a preference, but that preference varies. Some like guys with some meat on them; I personally like the skinny hipster type. Mabye in your neck of the woods but in mine the skinny guy gets the girl. There are more skinny guys with chunky girls than the other way around. How do you explain that??
MrCastle Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 the skinny guy gets the girl And don't you forget it
CptObvious Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Can't we all just agree on a happy medium? 6"2 200lbs 10% body fat. Not too lean, not too tall, and not too big. Pack about another 10lbs of insurance weight in case you get food poisoning and you're good to go. You'll have a good shot at the 50% of women who like 180s and you'll have a good shot at the other 50% that like 300s. It's all about marketing yourself enough when necessary so that she will settle for you. Getting a good body is only about 75% of the battle.
yongyong Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 That is one of the f-cked up things that bothers me in dating culture. All women say they want to date a tall, charming looking guy. do I have a problem with that? No I want them find a charming guy (In fact, guys wonder why when they see a beautiful girl with an ugly guy) Now a guy says he wants to find a beautiful girl with a nice body. What would women say? 'oh so you want a hot girl with no brain?' Who's retarded here? Why would they say such things? because they are miserable with their looks and they are offended by his comments? Guys can be more shallow in choosing a mate. But guess what? we are more fair about it. we don't expect to win a hot woman just because we have a 'good personality' we know we need to work for it. Wanna see proof? Make a thread saying 'I like this fit girl in my class but I am fat. what should I do?' in mens forum. Make a thread saying 'I like this ripped guy in my class but I am fat. what should I do?' in womens forum We all know the obvious answers? Cant believe I am agreeing with you. But you are very right. Fit smart guys arent super rarities. People always describe things in extremes...like if someone is smart they must be unattractive, or if they are hot they must be dumb. And people are always trying to put down a good looking person by saying things like "ill always take the smart person over them". Well guess what folks? Its not like the hot person, whom you assume is dumb, is having any trouble getting dates. People are complex and variable folks. I have my moments where Im a conceited douche whos concerned about my looks. And then I have my moments where I debate some sort of political ideal or where I get immersed in a philosophical discussion.
yongyong Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 It has to be based on your lifestyle, not a PUSSY. 'Oh I am too big to get pussy. I need to drop my muscle mass' ?? 'Oh I am too skinny to get pussy. I need to bulk up' ?? Can you imagine girls saying 'my butt is too big/small to give guys a boner, I need to work out' If you are a runner, you will be slim and won't look muscular at all. So would you chug a mass gainer and lift weights just to attract more pussy? You like to be strong and lifting heavy weights. you are considered 'too big' by average woman. So would you eat less and do cardio just to attract more pussy? You are in shape by doing outdoor activities. (hiking, biking) But you don't like to lift weights indoor. You heard women like men with decent muscle. So would you force yourself to lift weights to get more pussy? Base it on your Lifestyle. I see too much Pussy Worshipping here. (in the end, it's just a wet hole) Can't we all just agree on a happy medium? 6"2 200lbs 10% body fat. Not too lean, not too tall, and not too big. Pack about another 10lbs of insurance weight in case you get food poisoning and you're good to go. You'll have a good shot at the 50% of women who like 180s and you'll have a good shot at the other 50% that like 300s. It's all about marketing yourself enough when necessary so that she will settle for you. Getting a good body is only about 75% of the battle.
Hawaii50 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 That a good\muscular body is really that important to women, Since I work out myself and many of my friends (few have been on roids) then my experience tells me otherwise. I think it's a bonus but far away from being as important as some guys claim. Of course it's not AS important as everyone claims, but it helps, its an allure to get someone to know you better... Can't be so attached to the physicalities in life, they're the easiest gained and lost attribute in the dating world... On the a second note, I think you, above most people here should probably get with the flock. Your stray philosophies and thinking are not earth-shattering or productive, they're detrimental to your dating life, and who knows what else. You can have the best body and biggest dong in the world, but being an arshole puts true happiness out of reach for you, Necro. 1
ascendotum Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Mabye in your neck of the woods but in mine the skinny guy gets the girl. There are more skinny guys with chunky girls than the other way around. How do you explain that?? Easy..maybe the skinny guy's in your neck of the woods really want the skinny/petite girls but are having to settle for the chunky girls, because the skinny/petite girls are gushing over the beefy guys.
phineas Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Can't we all just agree on a happy medium? 6"2 200lbs 10% body fat. Not too lean, not too tall, and not too big. Pack about another 10lbs of insurance weight in case you get food poisoning and you're good to go. You'll have a good shot at the 50% of women who like 180s and you'll have a good shot at the other 50% that like 300s. It's all about marketing yourself enough when necessary so that she will settle for you. Getting a good body is only about 75% of the battle. errr 6'2 200lbs 10% BF is jacked & nowhere near the norm. 1
grkBoy Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 IN MY EXPERIENCES... Most women think the athletically fit guy is the top of the ladder. Skinny guy is secondary, average out-of-shape Joe is third, fat guy is at the bottom. With some women, money can make the fat guy look amazing in their eyes. BEAR IN MIND this does not speak for all woman, as we have seen some who aren't into athletically-fit guys and even a few who prefer the fat guy. AND...men are no better in this. We've all seen how large or fat women get shoved to the bottom of the ladder over slimmer women. I don't think having an athletically-fit body (male or female) is required, but it can't hurt. Plus it means you'll live a long healthy life. In the end I think the one factor most singles should look deeply into is health, hygiene, and fashion sense. Even being out of shape (male or female) can be overlooked if you know how to dress and carry yourself well. There's a girl at my work. If you're only thinking body then she's got a large butt and little gut. Yeah, many shallow types would think "fat", others would say "curvy". However, she's got a gorgeous face, beautiful hair, confidence, and good fashion sense. If I was single I would have dated her.
sweetkiwi Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 i don't go for the beefy guys. And i'm not a fat chick. I'm petite but curvy. And short as hell. If i was into muscles a lot then yeah i'd have a beefy guy. Muscle mass has just never been a blip on my radar when i'm attracted to someone. My first man was a little muscle man. Tan, fit, super flexable, a martial artist badass. But what attracted me to him wasn't his body. That was just another part of who he was. I'm usually the hot chick with the hairy jewish nerd. Because he's interesting and goofy like me. 1
Jane2011 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) I agree. Many women don't really care much about body type. Others have a preference, but that preference varies. Some like guys with some meat on them; I personally like the skinny hipster type. Agree. My last three really-compatible-with-me boyfriends have been thin. My current boyfriend weighs 155 and he's 5'11". He's really thin, but just at the point that's not "too thin" to me. I don't have a strong preference for muscles or not, but if he does have muscles, I prefer the lean muscular look, not the stocky, intensely thick look. I dated a guy in early 2010 who lifted weights. He looked really good, but I'd say he was just at the acceptable point, not overboard. If "all other things were equal" and I had to choose between a guy who was muscular and one who was thin, it'd really be a toss-up. It doesn't matter, really. Both types can be and are sexy as hell in bed. That said, I think men who think having muscles is that much of a benefit...are wrong. At least for many women. Not all. These things are obviously subjective, but for me, it's not a huge benefit to be buff, given I've been in love with thin guys whereas only involved on a short-lived basis with buff guys (and was into them only so much) There are other women like me as well, but there are some, I guess, who truly prefer muscles. For this kind of thing, I think a guy needs to decide what type of woman he wants, as I'm sure, to some small degree, it is a certain "type" who wants muscles. It won't be universally the case, but maybe generally. A guy could then decide, based on what type of woman he likes, whether it's worth it to him to get buff or not. (If, that is, attracting women is a big part of his motivation, as opposed to purely or mostly for himself) Edited October 31, 2012 by Jane2011
carhill Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 One thing i don't agree with many males here is... That a good\muscular body is really that important to women IMO, your best information is observing what women do. Do fit and physically healthy-appearing men have wives and girlfriends in your demographic and social circle, and overwhelmingly so? Go with that. However, it can be statistically important to note those who have wives *and* girlfriends. In my social circle, I know only one such man who isn't 'successful' in relationships and that's simply because he's very rigid and picky, and he can be, because he's fit and good-looking. Imagine George Clooney, as the two are only a week apart in age. A fit body gathers attention, and attention is one impetus for 'get to know'. It stands out. Is it the be-all and end-all? Nope. It is better, as far as getting noticed, than being part of the background. So, if you're fit, you've got a leg up on the guy who is part of the background, body-wise. What you do with that is up to you. Good luck. 1
El Brujo Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 That a good\muscular body is really that important to women, Since I work out myself and many of my friends (few have been on roids) then my experience tells me otherwise. I think it's a bonus but far away from being as important as some guys claim. Agreed. I'm 6'6", built like a pro wrestler, and with a face which isn't particularly ugly. But women still avoid me like the plague (unless of course they're fat, have a zillion kids, and are old enough to be my mother). Ahhhhh... these days are a GREAT time to be an attractive young kidless woman!!! (except for the horny degenerates who try to drop-tackle you every time you leave your front door)
Ross MwcFan Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I'm muscular, it's never made any difference though.
rocketman122 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 A fit body gathers attention, and attention is one impetus for 'get to know'. It stands out. Is it the be-all and end-all? Nope. It is better, as far as getting noticed, than being part of the background. So, if you're fit, you've got a leg up on the guy who is part of the background, body-wise. What you do with that is up to you. Good luck. exactly. looking good, gets you noticed and you stand out from the normal average looking guys. how you approach and reel her in is something else. all I want is her attention, after that its not a problem. gift of gab is important also. 210lb at 6'1" isnt exactly big. but I stand out compared to the guys (who are short on average) here and I dress very well and I look great. my crazy jealous GF gives me hell when we go out. she sees the eyes looking. but basically its the whole package. the muscles help to get their eyes on me. thats what I want. looking like a bum wont do it. and its not only about muscles. @Brujo..you weigh a lot (from one of your posts that I remember)and probably not exactly ripped so people see this huge guy and thats why..get lean and see how woman ogle you. @ross what are your stats? maybe you dress like a bum, maybe youre ugly..maybe you dont know how to talk with them..I dont know why it isnt helping you more so. muscles is not everything but you should be getting more eye contact than the average guy.
Jamesblame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Everyone has a set body type that is defined by your genetics. Some lean, some medium, some heavy. The important thing is to look the best you can for who you are. Jude Law could never look like George Clooney. So customize your style, health, fitness, and lifestyle to what makes you a.) Most happy and b.) best you can look for who YOU are. The right people will respond. The others have different perspectives. 1
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