Author OompaLoompa Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Which is the reason why white guys tend to go for taller, athletic, more voluptuous white girls. They physically match better. Asian girls are usually short, petite, and thin. Yes. I understand. The point is at least physically I am in a better shape. So I wonder or suspected that it was probably my race/ethnicity.
Author OompaLoompa Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Don't be offended, it's just the internet.... You can ask yourself if you're long term potential...in general, people give us the respect we deserve. I did. And all my past relationships have been sort of a long term (about a year or longer). I know I deserve so much better. Hmm I don't know. Maybe there is some signaling issue that I am not aware of (as in giving a wrong signal) but there's no one who can point me at that! ergh.
Carenth Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Maybe you are looking in the wrong places? Where do you generally go to find these guys? Certain places attract different people, if you are trying to find long term material in bars and clubs for example, I don't know how much luck you will have.
stillafool Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 okay just to begin with, I do not intend to generalize. this is based on purely my experience, that all of the HOT white guys I've met think asian girls are easy - or at least, not for a long term serious girlfriend material. they mostly want to date white girls. and as an asian girl myself, this recurring experience has made me lose my confidence greatly. I am attracted to hot white studs, and they never are attracted to me. why is that? and is there anything I can do to change this whole situation? Just to add: I am in a better shape than most of the white girls - tall, fit, nice face features, etc. But just because I am asian, these guys have treated me with no respect. and I'm really hurt by that. Maybe it's the same reason you are not attracted to Asian men. 2
Author OompaLoompa Posted October 29, 2012 Author Posted October 29, 2012 Maybe it's the same reason you are not attracted to Asian men. I don't think so. I am attracted to Asian man if they have the right physcial qualities. And I haven't met any. And as I have said, as to the physical characteristics, I am in a better position than most of the white girls. Hmm Idk. I think this discussion is going nowhere now Sigh. I just wanted to know how to make this situation better - I am just sick and tired of all these recurring experiences - Thought there might be some characteristic or some thing I can improve and work on to be more attractive in white guys' perspective idk.
Els Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Sorry for the generalizations that will follow: I didn't read the whole thread. I live in Vancouver. Almost more Asians here than anyone else. A lot of young Asian girls dress like whores and hookers here. Sorry, but it's a fact. Tottering around on super-high heels, asses hanging out. Yes, way more than other races. And many wear these ridiculously long huge fake eyelashes that are so trashy looking. I don't know that they are any sluttier than anyone else. I doubt it. But they sure look the part. Go ahead and call me racist. But they do their race way more harm by looking like 'me love you long time' ping pong ball shooting trash stereotypes than I ever will by pointing it out. And this is NOT all Asian girls! Many (most) look quite respectable. But those trashy ones are pretty noticeable. And unless you live here, and go to certain places I go, you can't say I'm overgeneralizing. I'm just the only one who dares point it out. Well, I haven't been to Vancouver, so I can't say for sure, but my observation is that the 'slutty' Asian girls simply dress a different form of 'slutty' from the Caucasians. And what is 'slutty' is defined in different ways in different places. I notice Caucasians seem to focus more on breasts and cleavage. I rarely see Asians reveal their cleavage or sometimes even nipples, the way Caucasian women do. That is generally acceptable in Caucasian countries - it's okay to go out without a bra, or to wear a very low-cut tank top, etc. Could also be because Caucasians generally have way more cleavage than Asians. Asian 'sexy dressing' capitalizes more on legs, form-fitting clothes, and very high heels. Again, makes a lot of sense, since Asians are slimmer and shorter in general. So they have silhouettes that they want to show off, and they use heels to elongate their legs and achieve height on par with their Caucasian peers. Also, long eyelashes is a huge thing in 'lolita' fashion - it simply isn't considered trashy in Japan/HK, etc. If you go to Asian countries and talk to the people there, they will tell you that Caucasians dress more sluttily than anyone else they've ever seen, because they consider lots of cleavage and breast and nip shows to be slutty. They don't consider high heels and short skirts and long eyelashes to be as slutty as the above, they think it's sexy. Just two different viewpoints.
counterman Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 I have a friend, actually I should say former friend, she use to always talk about white guys. She was crazy about them. The problem was she wanted hot guys but she was unattractive herself, both on the inside and the outside. No guys wanted her. Beggars can't be choosers, to put it harshly. Not saying that this is the case with you. Just saying, I have more of a chance of getting with hot girls that I want because I'm approach these girls. Would some of them find me unattractive? Hell yeah, but I never dwell on that. I really doubt it's because you're Asian. And I think it's unfair for you to generalise that white guys think Asian girls are easy. Of course some think they're easy and some of my friends think Asian girls easy (based on their experiences with past Asian girls). Most Asian girls that some of my friends have met with have been way too friendly too fast, and not in a good way, to the point where it gets ridiculous. Thing is, a hot "white" guy reading this thread right now might think you're easy as well based on the way you're carrying on about hot white guys. I think this is really engrained into you're mind set already, so I really don't know what advice to give However, I do wish you all the best with all my heart
KraftDinner Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Well, I haven't been to Vancouver, so I can't say for sure, but my observation is that the 'slutty' Asian girls simply dress a different form of 'slutty' from the Caucasians. And what is 'slutty' is defined in different ways in different places. I notice Caucasians seem to focus more on breasts and cleavage. I rarely see Asians reveal their cleavage or sometimes even nipples, the way Caucasian women do. That is generally acceptable in Caucasian countries - it's okay to go out without a bra, or to wear a very low-cut tank top, etc. Could also be because Caucasians generally have way more cleavage than Asians. Asian 'sexy dressing' capitalizes more on legs, form-fitting clothes, and very high heels. Again, makes a lot of sense, since Asians are slimmer and shorter in general. So they have silhouettes that they want to show off, and they use heels to elongate their legs and achieve height on par with their Caucasian peers. Also, long eyelashes is a huge thing in 'lolita' fashion - it simply isn't considered trashy in Japan/HK, etc. If you go to Asian countries and talk to the people there, they will tell you that Caucasians dress more sluttily than anyone else they've ever seen, because they consider lots of cleavage and breast and nip shows to be slutty. They don't consider high heels and short skirts and long eyelashes to be as slutty as the above, they think it's sexy. Just two different viewpoints. Maybe, but the OP is asking why white dudes think asian girls are easy, and my viewpoint is shared by lots of people here. It doesn't matter how asian people see caucasian women -- that's not what the OP was asking and is irrelevant. Lolita fashion, btw, is about the sexualization of young chickies (like 12 y/o young) so you're kind of proving my point. Lastly, asian girls here are pretty much the only women who wear bras with see-thru tops anymore. So yeah, titties too. Again, most look very nice and respectable but yeah....the trashy ones stick out more. The OP asked, that's my personal response, ymmv.
jcrew11 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 I think you should treat each guy on a case by case basis. The most important thing besides looks is to share a similar interest, hobby, profession, class, sports, music. Find out what his interests are and how he spends his free time. Guys like girls they can talk to about similar subjects. Its also important to share the same religion such as Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, or Mormonism. Join a religion and Church if you really want to gain the trust of white people, and if you can win the trust of a guy's Mom and family, then he will be more likely to marry you. Wear a lot of makeup, go to Macy's and learn how to put on fake eyelashes, and other stuff. It makes you more noticeable to men and it shows that you are really interested in hooking up with men. 1
Imported Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 OP, maybe they are as turned off of you as I am (mixed Asian/White). I mean, what guy respects a girl that loathes her own race? But honestly, I don't really blame you, except for how easily you are manipulated. I blame Hollywood.
Els Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Maybe, but the OP is asking why white dudes think asian girls are easy, and my viewpoint is shared by lots of people here. It doesn't matter how asian people see caucasian women -- that's not what the OP was asking and is irrelevant. Lolita fashion, btw, is about the sexualization of young chickies (like 12 y/o young) so you're kind of proving my point. Lastly, asian girls here are pretty much the only women who wear bras with see-thru tops anymore. So yeah, titties too. Again, most look very nice and respectable but yeah....the trashy ones stick out more. The OP asked, that's my personal response, ymmv. I am not saying that there's anything wrong with your response, I'm simply trying to explain the bigger picture. It isn't just that 'white dudes think asian girls are easy', it is that people in all places consider an exotic/minority race of women to be 'easy'. Open up your mind, understand that different cultures consider different things to be 'easy' or 'slutty'. There is no one definition. Once you understand that, everything will fall into place.
mesmerized Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 I am not saying that there's anything wrong with your response, I'm simply trying to explain the bigger picture. It isn't just that 'white dudes think asian girls are easy', it is that people in all places consider an exotic/minority race of women to be 'easy'. Open up your mind, understand that different cultures consider different things to be 'easy' or 'slutty'. There is no one definition. Once you understand that, everything will fall into place. I think he is talking about something that is particularly true in Vancouver. Might not apply to anywhere else. A friend of mine told me they call Asian girls yellow cabs because they are so easy to get and go out with anyone who asks. Now obviously this isn't true for every asian girl there or anywhere else, just the general idea people have gotten of asian girls in the vancouver area. And the same isn't said for other minorities.
Els Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 I think he is talking about something that is particularly true in Vancouver. Might not apply to anywhere else. A friend of mine told me they call Asian girls yellow cabs because they are so easy to get and go out with anyone who asks. Now obviously this isn't true for every asian girl there or anywhere else, just the general idea people have gotten of asian girls in the vancouver area. And the same isn't said for other minorities. Yes, and my Asian male friends constantly gloat about how 'easy' white women are because 'all you need to do is buy them a few drinks and get them good and high, then they'll sleep with you that very night'. But that doesn't prove that 'white women are easy'. All it shows is that they are unaccustomed to such behaviour because women of their own race from where they come from, don't behave the same way towards them in general. That is why all those stereotypes float around.
Author OompaLoompa Posted October 29, 2012 Author Posted October 29, 2012 OP, maybe they are as turned off of you as I am (mixed Asian/White). I mean, what guy respects a girl that loathes her own race? But honestly, I don't really blame you, except for how easily you are manipulated. I blame Hollywood. Hey I dont know where you are getting this from lol I never said I "loath" my very own race? I may be bitter in these posts about this recurring experience of being less preferred over blondes but I do not think I have said I hate being asian or asian guys. Lol To the extent that we are here talking about physical characteristics, all I said was white men likely fit more easily into the category I am looking for and that I am frustrated by how these guys i find attractive dont take me witb respect because I am asian. That all. 1
KraftDinner Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 I am not saying that there's anything wrong with your response, I'm simply trying to explain the bigger picture. It isn't just that 'white dudes think asian girls are easy', it is that people in all places consider an exotic/minority race of women to be 'easy'. Open up your mind, understand that different cultures consider different things to be 'easy' or 'slutty'. There is no one definition. Once you understand that, everything will fall into place. ? I never said I didn't understand what you were saying. Just fyi I've travelled all around the world extensively, including to Asia. Whatever, threadjack over, haha!
KraftDinner Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 I think he is talking about something that is particularly true in Vancouver. Might not apply to anywhere else. A friend of mine told me they call Asian girls yellow cabs because they are so easy to get and go out with anyone who asks. Now obviously this isn't true for every asian girl there or anywhere else, just the general idea people have gotten of asian girls in the vancouver area. And the same isn't said for other minorities. Thank you, you totally got what I was saying. I'm a woman, btw! I should have picked a more feminine name, haha!
jcrew11 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Black men are more physically stronger and larger down under. Or do you just want "Brad Pitt types" and "AF models"? Just meet meathead guys at the gym or at AF stores.
ScreamingTrees Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Black men are more physically stronger and larger down under. I think that's a load of horse**** generalization to make about a huuuge group of people, but you're probably a troll anyway so believe what you will.
BeholdtheMan Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Western media has a very strong influence in Asia. Most Asians follow the White beauty standard, listen to Western music, watch Western movies, buy Western products. They have a very positive image of "white people". This has an impact on how Asian women perceive Western (white) men. The Asian way of thinking is also very hierarchical. They view the world as 1. Light-skinned Europeans 2. Dark-skinned Caucasians 2. East Asians 3. South East Asians 4. Indigenous-looking peoples and Blacks
Jane2011 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 OP, I just met a tall, thin Asian girl this weekend whose fiance was a white guy. I think lots of white guys like Asian women. Also, as far as having to worry about a guy wanting a white girl over you (an Asian girl), in my experience, that's a problem more with non-white guys than white guys. Seriously! Only speaking from my experience, but a Hispanic guy I was with for a long time and an Indian guy I dated briefly last year both made it so unabashedly clear that white girls were a prize to them. They liked all kinds of girls, but white girls were tops. Believe me, one even said it explicitly; the other made it clear by his actions. I'm dating a white guy right now, and when I'm with him around white women, he behaves in a way that is entirely indifferent. The aforementioned guys clearly got excited and were 'in awe' when a white woman was around (a good-looking one, that is). As a matter of fact, with the white guy I'm with now, I'd say I have just the opposite concern (although it's not really a concern because he's good to me, into me so far). But I generally feel more wary about *ethnic* women around him, because I think he finds them more attractive than white women. It's sort of an 'opposites' thing. For a while I had been thinking that I probably should get with a white guy because I wouldn't have to worry about him wanting some white girl to make himself feel less racially inferior. But I've realized now that if it's not white girls, it's non-white girls to be worried about, lol. Still, in general, I'd sincerely feel safer with a white guy (these days) because I've had too many non-white boyfriends who clamored for the attention of white women.
Jane2011 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Also, for a long time I did not want to date a white guy because 1) I so often didn't like them anyway, 2) I was glad not to be that cliche white guy/Asian girl couple. But I'm dating a white guy now (after a string of non-white boyfriends), and I find that I don't care that much about being a cliche. Also, like I said, it's nice not to worry about him wanting a white woman to validate him. I love his indifference and even preference away from white women. Even though, as I said, the opposite problem now exists, it feels less of a concern in general, based on his behavior. Plus, at this point, it'd be nice for a change to experience a guy -- if he must choose someone over me -- choosing an ethnic woman rather than a white one.
jenwon Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Simple. A lot of Asian women have a huge white guy fetish. A good looking white guy can get a ton of asian girls throwing themselves at him. Any self-respecting White guy can see through it and will dismiss these types. Player types will use them for an easy lay. Most asian girls come in two types. The suepr traditional type that will only date asian because of family, tradition, and culture. The other kind are chasing their prince charming (which is usually a white guy). These are the type of girls that you see on OLD that are 5'0 tall and only date guys 6'0 tall. Edited October 31, 2012 by jenwon
yongyong Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I am sure there are charming white guy/asian girl couple in big metro areas. Most of the time, white guy who has asian gf looks Beta as F-ck. They might say, they prefer asian women. But I know it's because they can't attract white girl with their Beta looks and behavior. Some asian girls are smart to know about this. 'he is hitting on me, not because he genuinely likes me, because he can't go after white girls'
Carenth Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I am sure there are charming white guy/asian girl couple in big metro areas. Most of the time, white guy who has asian gf looks Beta as F-ck. They might say, they prefer asian women. But I know it's because they can't attract white girl with their Beta looks and behavior. Some asian girls are smart to know about this. 'he is hitting on me, not because he genuinely likes me, because he can't go after white girls' lol what? ignorance and bigotry are alive and well I see.
TaurusTerp Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 lol what? ignorance and bigotry are alive and well I see. I can kind of see what he's getting at...a good majority of the white dudes I've met with hardcore yellow fever are kind of lame. And somehow think that travelling to asia will fix all their problems, because it's the promised land where girls worship white guys. Kind of along the same lines as the guys whining about American women and talking about going abroad to find their wives - reality check, it's not American women that are the problem, it's the guy.
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