Author OompaLoompa Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 If only we could dislike posts, I would dislike it so hard. (No I'm not Asian) I'm sorry if I offended anyone. But to the extent that I really appreciate this open and honest discussion, I also wanted to give out an honest answer too. And most asian guys don't approach me either. Mostly because I am taller, and they prefer short, petite, pale cutesy asian girls.
jcrew11 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 In most cases, people date within their own race because they have more things culturally in common. They are lazy and don't want to learn about a foreign race and culture. Most people marry women or men who would be approved by their moms/dads; and often have similar traits of their idealized parents. We have a picture of the ideal wife or husband in our minds, and our parents serve as the role model to how we perceive a future wife or husband to act (especially if we have good relationships with our parents). There's an old saying that we often marry women like our mothers, or men like our fathers. We have subconscious habits that we are comfortable with and want to maintain.
Author OompaLoompa Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 In most cases, people date within their own race because they have more things culturally in common. They are lazy and don't want to learn about a foreign race and culture. Most people marry women or men who would be approved by their moms/dads; and often have similar traits of their idealized parents. We have a picture of the ideal wife or husband in our minds, and our parents serve as the role model to how we perceive a future wife or husband to act (especially if we have good relationships with our parents). There's an old saying that we often marry women like our mothers, or men like our fathers. We have subconscious habits that we are comfortable with and want to maintain. Well, I agree. And I guess there's really nothing I can do which is really frustrating. I just lost whole lot of confidence because guys I want to be with don't want to be with me in the same way. I mean I don't blame them at all. I just want to find a way to make them be attracted to me.
Gunny376 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 All the Asian Women (Mostly Japanesse and Korean) I've known are ANYTHING BUT!!!!!! About as submissive as Chiaki Kuriyama in "Kill Bill" Most of the Japanesse and Korean women I know are serious wives and mothers, asute business women and take "If Mama Ain't Happy ~ Ain't Nobody Happy" to a whole new level. Mama Sans don't play! 2
NoMoreJerks Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 All the Asian Women (Mostly Japanesse and Korean) I've known are ANYTHING BUT!!!!!! About as submissive as Chiaki Kuriyama in "Kill Bill" Most of the Japanesse and Korean women I know are serious wives and mothers, asute business women and take "If Mama Ain't Happy ~ Ain't Nobody Happy" to a whole new level. Mama Sans don't play! Well that's the thing. It is a stereotype. My ex really believed that, especially when it came to Thai women. Problem is, the Thai women he knew? Were all prostitutes.. who would do anything for money...
Author OompaLoompa Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 All the Asian Women (Mostly Japanesse and Korean) I've known are ANYTHING BUT!!!!!! About as submissive as Chiaki Kuriyama in "Kill Bill" Most of the Japanesse and Korean women I know are serious wives and mothers, asute business women and take "If Mama Ain't Happy ~ Ain't Nobody Happy" to a whole new level. Mama Sans don't play! Hmm. I guess I am not that attractive to them because I am a serious person? I mean I'm in no way submissive but I think I am a serious person. I take people seriously and I want them to take me seriously. (meaning with respect) I like to have fun but I don't want to just joke around all the time. Hmm maybe that's why?
NoMoreJerks Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Hmm. I guess I am not that attractive to them because I am a serious person? I mean I'm in no way submissive but I think I am a serious person. I take people seriously and I want them to take me seriously. (meaning with respect) I like to have fun but I don't want to just joke around all the time. Hmm maybe that's why? Yeah -- actually, i think you're right -- a lot of the Asian chicks that I see attracting white men, are the ones that laugh at stupid stuff, act really silly, etc. Maybe that's it.
Author OompaLoompa Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Yeah -- actually, i think you're right -- a lot of the Asian chicks that I see attracting white men, are the ones that laugh at stupid stuff, act really silly, etc. Maybe that's it. Yeah but I think it's more of a personality thing then cultural thing. i just hate doing stupid **** and doing silly things that I know I will regret having done. I mean I laugh a lot, and enjoy spending fun time, but I don't like getting out there doing stupid stuff getting drunk and ****. Eh. 1
NoMoreJerks Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Yeah but I think it's more of a personality thing then cultural thing. i just hate doing stupid **** and doing silly things that I know I will regret having done. I mean I laugh a lot, and enjoy spending fun time, but I don't like getting out there doing stupid stuff getting drunk and ****. Eh. Yeah, well, I never implied it's a cultural thing, in the sense that most Asian women would probably not do it. The problem is that those who DO, give the impression that Asian chicks are like that in general, because they are so "out there" and act so unusual compared to most non-Asian chicks. At least that's my impression based on observations of lots of young Asian women -- especially ones who have grown up here, rather than those who have recently immigrated. The women coming from upper-class families are also more often like that -- others can't afford not to be serious/hard-working (especially new immigrants). They are kinda spoiled, etc. I do think, though, that in comparison to non-Asian women, more Asian women act like that -- spoiled, doing silly things and laughing at silly stuff. But of all Asians, the most serious ones are the Japanese. I like them a lot for that very same reason. Note, I'm a girl. To be honest, though, you shouldn't consider this as a disadvantage on your part. You don't want to attract men who want that sort of a girl, do you? They are probably douchebags. Anyone stupid enough to be attracted to teenagers/early 20s women who act silly , is just... well, you are better off without him... right? Edited October 28, 2012 by NoMoreJerks 1
ascendotum Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 " I do not intend to generalize." that's a little hard not to with the nature of your post. I could easily say that all the decent looking black guys I've known think white girls are easy, but they rarely end up in a LTR with them. If you are regularly ending up in bed with hotties, well that would be good for the confidence of many here. I get that its not the same as ending up with a LTR, but its still better for confidence than the women, who would get the 'azz if' response from the guys. How about maybe lower your expectations down from the 'HOT stud' guys to just 'decent looking', till you reach the point where the guys are enthusiastic to spend ongoing time in your company. "just because I am asian, these guys have treated me with no respect."...for sure there is a racist element out there with some guys + also some guys just are just not into Asian women (no racism). A number of 'HOT stud' guys I've known over the years did not had respect for women who are throwing themselves at them, no matter what their racial/demographic (still ****ed them tho). I agree with dasein's post as well....chances are its not just because you are Asian that you are getting piffed after sex, these guys have lots of options, and can taste many flavors.
Gunny376 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Well that's the thing. It is a stereotype. My ex really believed that, especially when it came to Thai women. Problem is, the Thai women he knew? Were all prostitutes.. who would do anything for money... The four + years I lived in Japan, I didn't see a whole lot of prostitution. I'm sure they have them, but the Japanesse frown on that sort of thing. (Geshia Girls ~ are at least TRUE Geshia Girls ~ AREN'T PROSTITUTES. They're highly trained professional female hostestess that has a "Mama San" on steroids to keep them that way!) I did see a lot of young Japanesse girls in "leathers and helmets" on 'crotch rockets' doing speeds and stunts that would make Evil Kenevil (the motorcycle dare devil) cringe! :eek: :eek: Not uncomon to see a JP (Japanesse Police) crusier after them. :eek: :eek: The trouble with "Thai" girls? They're NOT always ,..................well? Girls? :eek: :eek: You get with one of them (We in the Marines called them 'Bennie Boys' you need to do a quick check under the hood if you know what I mean? :p :p My personal preference is with GRITS girls (Girls Raised In The South) but my experience with most any nationality from the Far East is they make outstanding wifes, GF's, mothers. They're exceptionally good with money, budgets, bargin hunting, saving, investing and working hard. EXTREMELLY devoted mothers, don't put up with any crap when it comes to men. If you marry one? You just married the whole entire family, not just children from another man/marriage. The WHOLE DAMN FAMILY! There are exceptions of course ~ but this is the general rule.
amaysngrace Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 If its not the bad rap China gives you then it's probably this song YouTube
NoMoreJerks Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 The trouble with "Thai" girls? They're NOT always ,..................well? Girls? :eek: :eek: You get with one of them (We in the Marines called them 'Bennie Boys' you need to do a quick check under the hood if you know what I mean? :p :p Yes yes, trust me, I know all about them. Them lady boys. One of them went after my ex in "her" motorbike at 2am, demanding that he sleep with "her"... Apparently he nearly **** his pants, ran to the nearest pub, and asked the women prostitutes to help him... I had to crack up at that one. Can't say he didn't deserve it... My personal preference is with GRITS girls (Girls Raised In The South) but my experience with most any nationality from the Far East is they make outstanding wifes, GF's, mothers. They're exceptionally good with money, budgets, bargin hunting, saving, investing and working hard. EXTREMELLY devoted mothers, don't put up with any crap when it comes to men. I don't know about that -- I don't think I would be any less of a good mother and outstanding wife. I am good with all the things you mentioned, and I have a good career on top of that, something that most Thai women (for example) do not have. So I really don't understand this unreasonable "attraction" to these women. I don't think they offer more than most Western women do -- in fact, they offer significantly less. I think the reason many Western men are attracted to these women is exactly for the reason that I mentioned: they want submissive women, and because Western women are more or less financially independent, they cannot have that here in the West. More chance of that happening in places like Thailand. They think they can "buy" submissiveness, basically. Whether or not they are right is another matter altogether. But time and again, my ex talked about that, and I have seen so many men talk about Asian women in such terms, and seen so many documentaries about why men travel to Thailand and try to find "gfs" there.... it's the same story over and over again.. It's really pathetic, IMO.
MrCastle Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 In most cases, people date within their own race because they have more things culturally in common. They are lazy and don't want to learn about a foreign race and culture[/Quote] Hmm, yes and no. They don't date outside their race because their ignorance has prevented them from giving someone a chance. I'm Puerto Rican; have only been to Puerto Rico 2 times in my 24 years of living. I can't speak a word of spanish and actually failed it in high school, had to take it in summer school. My parents were born and raised here in NY so I grow up speaking english, accent free. I hate spanish food (actually most ethnic cuisine with the exception of italian food). I listen to mostly rock music and dress like someone you'd see in GQ. The white girls who turn me down because of my ethnicity, did not give me the chance to prove myself. They looked at me, said "he's hispanic, next" and moved on. I don't align with puerto rican culture; I align with American culture. I'm a red blooded American man, born and bred. They don't see that, though. Because of ignorance.
Gunny376 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Hmm. I guess I am not that attractive to them because I am a serious person? I mean I'm in no way submissive but I think I am a serious person. I take people seriously and I want them to take me seriously. (meaning with respect) I like to have fun but I don't want to just joke around all the time. Hmm maybe that's why? I've never seen an un-attractive Asian woman, even when they get older their personalities more than make up for their lost youth. They've got a 'wirey' ~ tricky sense of humor. They'll trip you up and be five or six steps ahead of most American men. They're a lot of fun. I probally would have married one ~ problem was everytime I was around them ~ I was already married, (t'ain't with that more than one GF at a time ~ I'm a one-woman type man) Then there's the GUA factor. They were from Japan, and although I LOVE Japan, the Japanesse, Japanesse culture and civiliazation etc? I still Love the good old USA even more. (GUA = Geographically Unavailable; anyone more than 100 miles away from home base)
Author OompaLoompa Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Hmm, yes and no. They don't date outside their race because their ignorance has prevented them from giving someone a chance. I'm Puerto Rican; have only been to Puerto Rico 2 times in my 24 years of living. I can't speak a word of spanish and actually failed it in high school, had to take it in summer school. My parents were born and raised here in NY so I grow up speaking english, accent free. I hate spanish food (actually most ethnic cuisine with the exception of italian food). I listen to mostly rock music and dress like someone you'd see in GQ. The white girls who turn me down because of my ethnicity, did not give me the chance to prove myself. They looked at me, said "he's hispanic, next" and moved on. I don't align with puerto rican culture; I align with American culture. I'm a red blooded American man, born and bred. They don't see that, though. Because of ignorance. I know how that feels. Sucks. Maybe it's NY thing. Idk. I never felt this way before coming to NY.
Gunny376 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Yes yes, trust me, I know all about them. Them lady boys. One of them went after my ex in "her" motorbike at 2am, demanding that he sleep with "her"... Apparently he nearly **** his pants, ran to the nearest pub, and asked the women prostitutes to help him... I had to crack up at that one. Can't say he didn't deserve it... I don't know about that -- I don't think I would be any less of a good mother and outstanding wife. I am good with all the things you mentioned, and I have a good career on top of that, something that most Thai women (for example) do not have. So I really don't understand this unreasonable "attraction" to these women. I don't think they offer more than most Western women do -- in fact, they offer significantly less. I think the reason many Western men are attracted to these women is exactly for the reason that I mentioned: they want submissive women, and because Western women are more or less financially independent, they cannot have that here in the West. More chance of that happening in places like Thailand. They think they can "buy" submissiveness, basically. Whether or not they are right is another matter altogether. But time and again, my ex talked about that, and I have seen so many men talk about Asian women in such terms, and seen so many documentaries about why men travel to Thailand and try to find "gfs" there.... it's the same story over and over again.. It's really pathetic, IMO. Well you're kinda' ~ sort of starting to get to the real crux of the situation about Oriential women being more so-called submissive. We're talking about those that come from the Far East/Orient here ~ especially in regards to the Phillippines and such countries such as Thailand, Burma (I know the military in Burma changed the name ~ but I'm too damn tired to look it up!) Its NOT that these women are so-much submissive, as 1. They're very competitve, 2. Very astuste (Smart) 3. Can play most American men five or six moves ahead of the "game" (So to speak ) Even if they're second, third, fourth, sixth generation Asian American? They're still their Mother's daughters? Things in family get passed down from one generation to the next. With that said, one need only need at an "Japanesse Occupation Map" to see where the Japanese occupied parts of the Far East. Throughout the world, the ratio of female to male births is slightly higher. That is to say that there are more females born than males. The current female to male birth ratio in China and India bears this out. Introduce war, famine and disease ~ and the ratio changes dramatically and last for decades, if not centuries. Although this is 2012, the ratio of women to men in countries such as Australia and New Zealand are something approaching ten to one. Its because of WWII and those countries not having sacrificed their 'men-folk' in WWI, WWII, the Korean War, Vietnam War (Major allies of the US ~ many Americans thing we fought those war by our lonesome ~ we didn't) In other countries such as the Philippines, Korea the ratio of women to men is even higher. Its NOT that Asian women are SO submissive? Its that they're damned good Scarlet O'hara (Gone With the Wind). To truly find out just how submissive, dumb, stupid, obtuse they REALLY are? Marry one! :eek: :eek: :p :p :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
40 Fonzarelli Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Asian girls are easy to white guys because asian girls worship them and white guys know it so they have leverage.
Els Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 That's weird. Coming from an Asian country, the opposite phenomenon seems to be the case: Asian guys thinking that white girls are 'easy'. Either way, I think it's pretty safe to assume that people 1) always think the grass is greener on the other side, and 2) always fantasize about people who appear 'exotic' to them as being 'easy'.
Els Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Although this is 2012, the ratio of women to men in countries such as Australia and New Zealand are something approaching ten to one. Dude, are you on pot or something?
counterman Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Here's a perspective from some of my Asian girl friends. Most of them do prefer white guys, and not just a slight preference but a strong preference and have repeatedly paid out Asian guys. The issue is, all of my friends don't get approached at all by the guys they want (or by any guys at all). These guys are approaching mostly white girls. So, most of them have settled for Asian guys. I think this is disgusting. The notion that Asian girls are easy might come from that fact that other Asian girls these guys have dealt with have been easy. In my experience and from discussing with my white friends, this has been the case. They even laughed at the fact that they get away with so much more with Asian girls because they're white. Most of them have said they didn't even have to say much and the Asian girls would be all over them. Yet, most of them will only date white girls. And a lot of those Asian girls who really put down Asian guys, a lot of my friends (of any race) find it really bizarre and gross, that they tend to avoid these girls.
Carenth Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 I'm a white guy, I don't think I'm bad looking but won't delude myself I don't think I think I'm in the "white hot stud" category. Which I imagine to be something like 6"4' blonde hair, blue eyes, chiseled abs etc. If that is the sort of guy you are chasing then yeah totally agree with other posters, those sorts of guys have many options and will pick and choose. I've dated Asian girls in the past and would again. For me it's nothing about background (I actually find it interesting learning about different cultures and backgrounds) and more about things we share in common and generally I gravitate to people who have a lot of knowledge in a field I don't. Nothing is more attractive to me then some serious grey matter that I can probe for information. I might be a bit weird in that regard I don't know.
Revolver Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 All the attractive Asian women I've ever met/seen date white guys
Emilia Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 OP, I suspect the issue is that you don't relate to men that well. You label them based on their race as opposed to seeing them as individuals. It's impossible to say 'white men like this' or 'white men like that'. Each and every one I know is different and look for different things in a woman, including brains, personality, ethnicity, the size of her ass, anything. There is no such category as 'all white men'. 2
mammasita Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 You must be dealing with some pretty ignorant "hot white studs". In my experience, asian women who are raised traditionally are certainly more subservient to their men. That doesn't men they are easy, they just do what they can to please their man. How do I know this? I'm Asian. Am I subservient? Hell no. 1
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