Author Depth Posted October 26, 2012 Author Posted October 26, 2012 Well, as for "not enough comfort", I think what I said actually was something like that. The PUA forums have their strengths and LS forums have their strengths. The people who study PUA deserve credit IMO for actually taking action, and for trying to break down interactions in a way that a guy can learn what he could do better next time. Thing is though, many guys who study PUA take themselves way too seriously (is an interaction ever really an interaction or is it always a dojo to practice and test social skills). And many guys who study PUA end up with overly rigid ways of thinking. Every social situation becomes a nail, and their favorite method becomes the hammer. As many of them don't have the social experience to get that what they were taught is a *rule of thumb* and it needs to be modified to fit the situation. I believe the Community term is "calibration". This forum is good in that you will get advice from people who are more flexible in their thinking and who have experience with relationships as well as dating. There is a lot of BS advice here that doesn't really help anyone though (e.g., "Be Yourself!" "Be Confident!"). And there are a lot of guys on here who won't take action and who just sit and whine. You will also have people on here who feel that PUA is an evil. Take it with a grain of salt. No woman wants to believe that the guy she is falling for downloaded his personality from the Internet. But the only way to get this part of your life handled is to take action and learn some stuff. So good show. Wow so I seen that you've read some stuff haha. Yes correct it's calibration. Lately ie been following simplepickup on YouTube which is pretty much just like "say pretty much anything with confidence." When you see her again, no gifts. What has she done to deserve a gift from you? Go over and say hi and say your piece. You can tell her that you thought you and she had a connection and see what she says. I'm thinking of giving her a homemade paper flower with a kitty pic on it. I think it would be cute. She has a soft spot for cats. Well the thing is, he was a really nice guy otherwise, so I didn't want to go all serious and ruin the mood and be a "party pooper" just because he may have said something inappropriate while drunk. Also, it really caught me off-guard and made me feel very uncomfortable and awkward, so I had to laugh it off. Still, it was very inappropriate and kinda turned me off him, and made me think that he might not be the right person for me to hang out with. It wasn't gross as much as it was very inappropriate material for a conversation with a woman especially a woman you had just met. It involved talk about male genitalia , condoms, cum, and the like. I am a very open-minded girl, but I was not impressed. Oh wow, well that is worse than what I said I guess; then again I was sober as can be so no excuses. Thanks for explaining lol, I'll know Now that when im telling a joke and a girl Laughs, I should always have some doubt in my Mind. Let me taste your dinner? :lmao::sick::sick: Never say this again. And I mean NEVER. Omg Eternal idk where that came from it just came out of My mouth after kissing her; I don't even know why I said it. Can just one thing like that REALLY kill all my chances? :sick: Pick-Up-Artist type thinking. Which is awesome when you don't have to think about it, but having to consciously think/act according to some hand book or advice will leave you not knowing what to do in awkward moments... like asking for a kiss, then to taste her dinner?! lmao. Because that is in fact not you, showing up 10 minutes late to create "attraction." ridiculous. But... if it works it works. I do all sorts of things, but they're mine, I have een fortunate enough to be able to navigate women on my own. Teach me your secrets indeed, I wish I knew what to do In those situations, I always play it in my head before the date and it always seems so much better than it actually turns out lol.
runner Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 I agree, he does seem "sweet", and he should at least try to maintain some of that, but to tell him to continue what he was doing before will probably not work for him. He needs to strike the balance between the PUA stuff and his real self. Hence why, in his own words "when he was the sweet guy, he got friendzoned". exactly. there is mimicking the instructors, and then there is internalising the concepts of attraction and applying it to who you are. OP is clearly in the former.
Author Depth Posted October 26, 2012 Author Posted October 26, 2012 exactly. there is mimicking the instructors, and then there is internalising the concepts of attraction and applying it to who you are. OP is clearly in the former. I'm working on it lol
bac Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 Let me start by saying that I developed my ability to talk to women through guys like Mystery, simplepickup, etc. Without them, I wouldn't even go on dates like I do now. With that said, I have read around that you should be sexual around a girl. That you should use kino and make references to sex so it makes the girl comfortable. This is pretty similar to something that happened to me last year; at this point I think its fair to assume that I'm just coming on too strong? Or perhaps I don't make the emotional connection with the girl? I'm not too sure -D You are coming too weak! Your skills work out only with very dirty girls= sluts. So, you should have had sex with her on the first date. Everyone does it and she expected you to do the same. She did not answer you because you are too weak and she was probably busy having sex with another male.
Jamesblame Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Misogyny like tht is exactly why mature, adults can't stand pua crap. There's nothing more disgusting slut shaming women you sleep with/want to sleep with. Particularly since you attempt to trick them into sleeping with you. You seek out vulnerable, naive women and instead of appreciating their helplessness and taking it slow, you manipulate them and finish it by callin them sluts. It's as pathetic as fighting an old man or pushing a kid around. Grow up, and know that you're not a player, you're not impressive, and you are incapable of ever getting a real woman. You're Nothing more than a sexual bully---using bravado to poorly conceal A disgustingly weak personality. Enjoy your drunk one night stands--man soooooo cool. Wish every guy could be as badass as you. You're not a player, you're a loser with no standards, ****ing pathetic. Edited October 26, 2012 by Jamesblame
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