What would be the youngest age woman that would be okay for a 37 year old guy to date

October 23, 2012

Other than my kids (and I suppose my wife for good measure), and so long as all involved are adults, I have no opinion on who people date and why they picked that person.

But I remember when I was 18 and briefly saw a woman who was 31 or 32. My God.

October 23, 2012

Ross, IMO, it's more 'getting out there' than numbers on a birth certificate. Get out there and date women; 'get to know'. Your synergistic demographic will emerge from experience. Experience is key. Less talk and more do. Good luck.

October 23, 2012

I'm just going to point out that you don't necessarily bring to the table what younger women who date older men are looking for.

And, sorry but you DO look mid-30's.

October 23, 2012

And another thing - you determine how young you can go by cutting your age in half and adding 7. Everyone knows this.

October 23, 2012

from what I've observed over many years, most older guys, say +35 can't get younger (early mid 20s girls) with or without $. We've all seen the guy WITH $ approach, flaunting his $ and everyone cringes...Very sad when that's his calling card. The guys that do well in this scenario did well in their 20s too. They intuitively get it...I didn't flaunt toys in my 20s and I don't now in my 40s...guys that do that (lean on $) are as sad as girls w fake boobs etc...

Anyway, I'm not theorizing, (like many on this post) but speaking from experience- there are many young girls that like alpha type males, regardless oif their age- as alpha types are disciplined; stay in top shape; and generally are successful. And real alpha males don't have to pose etc cuz they've generally been accustomed to getting the long end of the stick ie they did well in the genetic lottery and continue to...Yes I include myself in this- and fing getting girls easier than ever- because my understanding of the whole process is much more advanced- AND cuz I've 'scored' lots, I'm not desperate (far from it) to do so more (unlike most younger guys)...

Young guys generally have one thing one their mind (again, speaking from experience) therefore turn off certain girls who want a more multi faceted man...Sorry older ladies, but no, there's not always a 'daddy' issue, or a desire for material things behind the age gap thing. In fact, I really notice materialism kicks in much later for most women, say late 20s and on (makes sense, as it's mostly to do with providing for offspring...). Another reason younger people are attractive is GENERALLY they are less materialistic and more idealistic.

October 23, 2012

Off topic but having fake boobs doesn't make a girl "sad".

October 23, 2012

Off topic but having fake boobs doesn't make a girl "sad".

it actually is on topic- because posters are suggesting age gaps relations only occur or work cuz the guy spoils the younger girl with 'things'...I said guys who use their wealth to woo younger girls are as sad as girls who go under the knife to attract males (they deserve each other !). Now breast reductions are a whole different thing- and are something I readily accept.

October 23, 2012

Making generalizations about women who get work done is a slippery slope. I have many friends who are wonderful people, myself included, who have done it after childbearing has left it's nasty scars and just want to feel confident again.

Please don't assume that women who do it are just as pathetic as old creepy guys who woo women with money.

October 23, 2012

from what I've observed over many years, most older guys, say +35 can't get younger (early mid 20s girls) with or without $. We've all seen the guy WITH $ approach, flaunting his $ and everyone cringes...Very sad when that's his calling card. The guys that do well in this scenario did well in their 20s too. They intuitively get it...I didn't flaunt toys in my 20s and I don't now in my 40s...guys that do that (lean on $) are as sad as girls w fake boobs etc...
Anyway, I'm not theorizing, (like many on this post) but speaking from experience- there are many young girls that like alpha type males, regardless oif their age- as alpha types are disciplined; stay in top shape; and generally are successful. And real alpha males don't have to pose etc cuz they've generally been accustomed to getting the long end of the stick ie they did well in the genetic lottery and continue to...Yes I include myself in this- and fing getting girls easier than ever- because my understanding of the whole process is much more advanced- AND cuz I've 'scored' lots, I'm not desperate (far from it) to do so more (unlike most younger guys)...

Young guys generally have one thing one their mind (again, speaking from experience) therefore turn off certain girls who want a more multi faceted man...Sorry older ladies, but no, there's not always a 'daddy' issue, or a desire for material things behind the age gap thing. In fact, I really notice materialism kicks in much later for most women, say late 20s and on (makes sense, as it's mostly to do with providing for offspring...). Another reason younger people are attractive is GENERALLY they are less materialistic and more idealistic.

Lots of words. Name me a couple, any couple, in which there is a 15+ year gap between the people involved and the older person was poor or unemployed when they started dating. See, thought not.

October 23, 2012

Lots of words. Name me a couple, any couple, in which there is a 15+ year gap between the people involved and the older person was poor or unemployed when they started dating. See, thought not.

Do you know Bill Reid and Jane Smith ? Thought not...

Anyway, of course if a man is poor in his 40s it's more indicative of many negative traits than being poor in your 20s...cuz in your 20s you're given a pass on being poor as there is still time to make $ etc...so no one wants to hang around underachievers...myself included. It's just you're not recognized as that in your 20s- YET!

But there are big age ranges that survive as long as the basics are met- the man has initiative, ambition, drive etc...We know most females need to see these traits- and it's valid. I agree it's important and is mandatory for a relation to survive. BUT what I was arguing is that lots of younger girls don't need older guy to be rich- just ambitious, with drive and discipline. Lots of examples of that!

October 23, 2012

"A woman in her 20's and a Man in his 30's are not allowed to make their own decisions, have free will and choose to date each other according to you. In your opinion... It's unhealthy, dysfunctional and both the man and woman have issues should they even consider it."

Did I ever say anything about who people should or should not date? Are you confusing me with another poster?

Frankly I don't give a rip. Have at it people. We all bring a ton of issues to the table, regardless of who you are, regardless of fake boobs or not, regardless of age. It's just muddling through all the crap with someone you can tolerate.

It just irks me that people assume that getting a boob job automatically means you have low self-worth. I got mine done at age 32. After having a baby that I gave up for adoption 12 years ago and I spent my 20's being rather unhappy with what pregnancy left my body with. Now, I could afford it and couldn't be happier.

So please stop with the blanket statements.

October 23, 2012

I am in my late 30's. When I was on vacation this past summer, I met a girl and hung out with her. When she told me her age, I laughed.

48.

If you had asked me prior to this experience whether I would date someone 48, I would have said "no way". I had my eyes opened. Then again, maybe it ought to be no surprise. She was athletic growing up, and she still surfs and works out a lot. Here's the thing I realized: If I am physically attracted to a girl when she is 25, then as long as she takes care of herself physically, I will be physically attracted to her when she is in her 40's. Physical appearances don't change that much.

FWIW I have been with a girl over 10 years younger than I am too.She was mature for her age, so...

Anyway Ross, you are asking a question that doesn't serve you. What you need to be doing is talking to a lot of women and asking out those whom you connect with. Doesn't matter if they are 21 or 51 as long as you connect with them and find them physically attractive. (Although that said, you are more likely to connect and be physically attracted to women closer to your age.)

Edited October 23, 2012 by Imajerk17

October 23, 2012

Lots of words. Name me a couple, any couple, in which there is a 15+ year gap between the people involved and the older person was poor or unemployed when they started dating. See, thought not.

That's generally only relevant when the older person is a man, so could be relevant in Ross's case, if he's poor or unemployed. Further, it's good to ferret out such people, meaning the 15+ yo younger person who focuses on such matters, in general, as one's life circumstances can change, and a bolter for greener grass isn't the kind of person most wish to invest in for the long-term, gender being neutral.

Further, 'dating' is very different from a LTR or M. Lots of people 'date' and have casual sex either permanently or as a filler between 'serious' relationships. Hence, for many, the personal life circumstances of the object of the moment are largely irrelevant if the obvious 'chemistry' works. Like the weather, that's always subject to change, and often does. A young woman could use an older man (or vice versa) as such filler, without concern and with no aspirations for anything long term. Flings like this are historically common. Hence, if a young lady saw Ross as the bees knees but knew he was inappropriate long-term, he might gain experience with that young lady, even if it otherwise was fruitless. Rinse and repeat. More experience, clearer perspective, hopefully improved social and sexual skills.

October 23, 2012

I am in my late 30's. When I was on vacation this past summer, I met a girl and hung out with her. When she told me her age, I laughed.

48.

If you had asked me prior to this experience whether I would date someone 48, I would have said "no way". I had my eyes opened. Then again, maybe it ought to be no surprise. She was athletic growing up, and she still surfs and works out a lot. Here's the thing I realized: If I am physically attracted to a girl when she is 25, then as long as she takes care of herself physically, I will be physically attracted to her when she is in her 40's. Physical appearances don't change that much.

FWIW I have been with a girl over 10 years younger than I am too.She was mature for her age, so...

Anyway Ross, you are asking a question that doesn't serve you. What you need to be doing is talking to a lot of women and asking out those whom you connect with. Doesn't matter if they are 21 or 51 as long as you connect with them and find them physically attractive. (Although that said, you are more likely to connect and be physically attracted to women closer to your age.)

I'm not sure since I am immature for my age. My instinct tells me that I'd probably connect with women in their mid to late 20's the best. For some reason people on here just can't seem to accept that though.

Whenever I've spoke to a woman who is my age I felt like I was with a much older mature woman, like she could be my mum or something.

Edited October 23, 2012 by Ross MwcFan

October 23, 2012

Ross, one thing to consider is that, even if you felt like their peer, many would see you as an older man and perceive that dynamic from their life experience with older male role models/encounters/experiences. If you yourself say you are 'immature', that perception wouldn't match up with their 'normal', so could be a disincentive to establishing dating 'chemistry'. I say this not to discourage you from trying, and I think trying would do you some good, but to clarify aspects of perspective and risk and to foster an understanding of them so you don't invest in someone inappropriately. Date them, sure, but don't see the now as the be-all and end-all. It's the now. Ask a few out and see how it goes. That's my opinion.

October 23, 2012

I'm just going to point out that you don't necessarily bring to the table what younger women who date older men are looking for.

And, sorry but you DO look mid-30's.

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l610/RPKGameVids/VID00131_zpscb6aac19.jpg

^ That pic was taken a year ago. Still think I look like I'm in my mid 30's?

When someone online saw that pic they thought I was 19.

And before anyone says it's the clothes that make me look so young, bull****, it's really common for guys in their 20's and 30's in the UK to wear those sort of clothes, and they don't look really young for their age. What makes me look so young in that pic is how my face looks.

Edited October 23, 2012 by Ross MwcFan

October 23, 2012

Yep, this is exactly how most of the young women I know who are open to dating men twice their age think. And they're not expecting the man to bring them to coffee or a budget restaurant, either, because men their age can do that - they feel they deserve designer handbags, hotel restaurants, expensive vacations, etc from the older man - EXACTLY the sort of thing certain men here whine and whine about. I can't be arsed about it, because it's their life, and their partner's, but it annoys me to see the same men whining over and over and over and over about how 'entitled and selfish and materialistic women are when it comes to money' when they are the ones bragging about taking the very women who are most likely to be entitled in those circumstances! It's like eating lots of ice cream and complaining you're getting fat. Not sympathetic, sorry.

Yes, I don't get it either. They like women for shallow reasons but can't accept that a woman may like them for shallow reasons. They want to be liked for who they are, but they first have to be attracted to that woman before they even begin to think about who she is.

I didn't date any older guys that took me to Dunkin Donuts and the Olive Garden. Although let it be known that I love the Olive Garden and think it's a great date restaurant place now.

The other funny thing is that when I dated these older guys, and I went out with them with their friends, it was so ackward! I always remember the looks on the faces of both the women and men when I first met their friends. They were like "Really Dude? She is like half your age." I had nothing in common with them and I couldn't even talk to them. They didn't take me seriously and rarely addressed me except for pleasantries. And I was even mistake for their daughters at times. And when I took them to hang out with my friends? My friends did the same thing... "Really DY? He is so old."...from both the guys and girls again.... Of course, I dated who I wanted but I got a lot of jokes about it from my friends. I was the only one of my friends that dated significantly older. The only other friend I have that also dated significantly older is now divorced to that guy and is married to a Marine that is two years younger than her.

October 23, 2012

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l610/RPKGameVids/VID00131_zpscb6aac19.jpg

^ That pic was taken a year ago. Still think I look like I'm in my mid 30's?

Uh....yeah. Definitely.

And you're right, the clothes don't make you look young. One could make a case that they make you look like an older guy trying to look younger, but that's about it.

October 23, 2012

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l610/RPKGameVids/VID00131_zpscb6aac19.jpg

^ That pic was taken a year ago. Still think I look like I'm in my mid 30's?

When someone online saw that pic they thought I was 19.

And before anyone says it's the clothes that make me look so young, bull****, it's really common for guys in their 20's and 30's in the UK to wear those sort of clothes, and they don't look really young for their age. What makes me look so young in that pic is how my face looks.

You could be anywhere from 19 to 30. Might be able to tell better more up close if you have some fine lines and stuff. But you do look young from that picture.

Although, I think you are rationalatizing a bit with dating younger because of the way you look. However, if you are immature, than maybe dating a little younger is best after all. Or find an immature woman around your age.

October 23, 2012

I don't really think age is something with which you should particularly concern yourself. You date whenever there's a mutual connection.

If we take the thread question on its face, I'd say that a 10 year gap is probably the lowest you should go. It's not always that easy to find things in common with people who are way younger or older than you anyway, and there are plenty of social difficulties that you might encounter when interacting in groups of people, i.e. comments like "How are you dating her? She's half your age."

On the other hand, if casual sex ever becomes your goal, I don't really think age should matter at all. Younger women will have casual sex with older men provided he has his sh** together, is in good shape, and so forth. Just keep it legal and make sure she's mature enough to have a good time with.

October 23, 2012

Uh....yeah. Definitely.

Wow. Are you sure you're not just saying that?

October 23, 2012

I'm sure. Your build seems slight, which can indicate youth, AKA the gawky skinny kid stage. But, in the face, you look your age. The clothes look a little....silly on you. And the haircut is something a Mom gives her son so she doesn't have to bug with it in the morning before school. Those two things just sorta scream "I'm trying to look younger than I am!" to me. Which, if that's what you're going for, fine. But personally, I'd like to see you grow your hair out into a more 'mannish' cut (rather than the little boy cut) and put you in a nice pair of slacks with a V-neck sweater or something like that. I bet you'd look cute.

You've either got to be joking or you're just plain crazy.

Whatever the case, completely tearing down and ripping apart the way I look, from my body, to my hair, to my clothing, when I never even asked for fashion advice is totally rude and uncalled for.

Can we all see your pic? As I'm sure you look so perfect.

Edited October 23, 2012 by Ross MwcFan

October 23, 2012

That's generally only relevant when the older person is a man, so could be relevant in Ross's case, if he's poor or unemployed. Further, it's good to ferret out such people, meaning the 15+ yo younger person who focuses on such matters, in general, as one's life circumstances can change, and a bolter for greener grass isn't the kind of person most wish to invest in for the long-term, gender being neutral. .

In Ross' case, I definitely agree that there can be no harm in trying. The age range that he is looking for really is fairly reasonable, and his reasons are genuine as well. The only concern I would have for him is that he might be reducing his odds by going for younger women, and there isn't even a more likely mental/emotional connection to be had from them, as opposed to inexperienced women his age. I'm concerned because Ross doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who just wants casual sex, I think he really wants a woman who loves him and identifies with him. If he's fine with all of the above, I heartily advise that he just go for it.

My other post, that you quoted, was spurred on by dasein's comment about him having had plenty of much younger women, especially as I recall several posts that he made in the 'who pays?' thread about how so many of the women that he'd dated expected him to spoil them with lots of expensive stuff. My point was that this is not unusual if you're dating very much younger. It's a natural consequence of the choice.

Yes, I don't get it either. They like women for shallow reasons but can't accept that a woman may like them for shallow reasons. They want to be liked for who they are, but they first have to be attracted to that woman before they even begin to think about who she is.

I didn't date any older guys that took me to Dunkin Donuts and the Olive Garden. Although let it be known that I love the Olive Garden and think it's a great date restaurant place now.

I've only ever dated guys very close to my age, as I prize the emotional and mental connection and am willing to take a broke student as long as I have that. But I know a few young women with guys 10 years or so older than them, and those guys are at least reasonably rich and spend lots of that money on them. I definitely agree that it is hypocrisy to the extreme, for some men to extol the virtues of younger women but then throw a tantrum about those younger women expecting them to pay. You make your bed, you gotta lie in it.

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l610/RPKGameVids/VID00131_zpscb6aac19.jpg

^ That pic was taken a year ago. Still think I look like I'm in my mid 30's?

When someone online saw that pic they thought I was 19.

And before anyone says it's the clothes that make me look so young, bull****, it's really common for guys in their 20's and 30's in the UK to wear those sort of clothes, and they don't look really young for their age. What makes me look so young in that pic is how my face looks.

I think you look fine, Ross, but I really don't think you look 19. Probably late 20s at the youngest, would be my guess. Regardless, I don't think how old you look matters. The girl will have to know your age fairly soon, so it doesn't make much of a difference. If she doesn't want an older man, she doesn't, no matter how young you look. If she does, all's good.

October 23, 2012

In Ross' case, I definitely agree that there can be no harm in trying. The age range that he is looking for really is fairly reasonable, and his reasons are genuine as well. The only concern I would have for him is that he might be reducing his odds by going for younger women, and there isn't even a more likely mental/emotional connection to be had from them, as opposed to inexperienced women his age. I'm concerned because Ross doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who just wants casual sex, I think he really wants a woman who loves him and identifies with him. If he's fine with all of the above, I heartily advise that he just go for it.

My other post, that you quoted, was spurred on by dasein's comment about him having had plenty of much younger women, especially as I recall several posts that he made in the 'who pays?' thread about how so many of the women that he'd dated expected him to spoil them with lots of expensive stuff. My point was that this is not unusual if you're dating very much younger. It's a natural consequence of the choice.

I've only ever dated guys very close to my age, as I prize the emotional and mental connection and am willing to take a broke student as long as I have that. But I know a few young women with guys 10 years or so older than them, and those guys are at least reasonably rich and spend lots of that money on them. I definitely agree that it is hypocrisy to the extreme, for some men to extol the virtues of younger women but then throw a tantrum about those younger women expecting them to pay. You make your bed, you gotta lie in it.

I think you look fine, Ross, but I really don't think you look 19. Probably late 20s at the youngest, would be my guess. Regardless, I don't think how old you look matters. The girl will have to know your age fairly soon, so it doesn't make much of a difference. If she doesn't want an older man, she doesn't, no matter how young you look. If she does, all's good.

I'm still totally open to dating older women. As for wanting casual sex or a relationship, I'd be happy with anything.

October 23, 2012

If you're sure, then by all means go for it.

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