underwater2010 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 You cannot be forgiven, until you repent. But you already know that.
Author so_cold Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) seeking_arrangement_.com No underscore!! Best of luck to all!! Here is a link to a interview done about the site. Their are many many more and even though 63 and 21 seems a little creepy.......it's obiously working for them. If you join you'll see that this is not the norm, but the exception when it comes to allowances. The general undertone is right though something you will learn is each arrangment is different and there is no right or wrong just whatever works for you two. Edited October 25, 2012 by so_cold
2sunny Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Brandon Wade, our Founder and a leading dating expert, believes that successful relationships are formed out of two people being brutally honest with each other – about who they are, what they want and what they can offer. No matter what your reasons are for using Seeking Arrangement, know that out of brutal honesty comes a deep and genuine level of understanding, and sometimes true love. Seems the founders philosophy is interesting - mainly because your marriages must not be classified as "successful" - by his standards - because neither of you guys are "brutally honest" with your wives. One fact remains - IF you didn't think you were doing anything wrong - or "harmless" - as you call it - neither one of you would be keeping this your secret, but you are hiding it... So that's not brutally honest. 2
VodkaShots Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Not sure if srs but I'll bite anyway.. No matter what way you dress it up, cheating on someone who trusts you is the loiwest of the low. If you don't want monogamy for whatever reason, don't enter or stay in a monogamous relationship. Grow some balls, man up and get a divorce/split up, then you **** all the whores you want (if they're only interested in your money, that is what they are). It's your own fault if you catch a STD, or screw up your childrens or wives lives due to your pursuit of your own selfish creepy desires. 3
Sauron Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Thanks so_cold. I registered and it seems the average age is about mid 20's, seems like mostly college girls that need some help getting through school, a few stripper types and a few mature women that have been around the block a time or 2. There were a lot of college girls close to me as their are some major universities around here. So do you have a pre-determined time you are in for? Say like 6 months, with a negotiated extension if it's still working. How often do you see the one you have now, weekly 2x a month or just whenever it works schedule wise? Does she make time for you based on your schedule. How much do they know about your personal life?
Sauron Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Do you understand how creepy that sounds/looks? Just think how your wife would view it IF she only knew. Don't put it past her - they do often find out when you don't think they will... You use a computer? Ever heard of a key logger? Maybe someday she'll learn about voice activated recorders - or even a friend or family member bumps into you in some far away place - and you're out with a young gal... Happens - more often than you realize. But you think you won't get caught because your ego tells you you're smart - cheaters get caught a LOT... You aren't above it. You live in an isolated world not grounded in reality. Do you even have a man in your life or do you spend all day on this site? I am sure the dumbass men that don't think get caught a lot. As the OP pointed out there are security measures that people like us take into account. In my particular situation, I run several businesses and their is a hard wall between my technology communication tools for business and personal life, I travel a lot with all kinds of people including women that work for me. I am in multiple hotels in any given week in any part of the country, I entertain customers in fine dining establishments and bars in every city I am in, all paid for out of a company expense account. However, the biggest thing I have going for me is that I take care of my wife and her needs and she is blissfully happy and indifferent about pretty much anything as I make no demands on her anymore except sex the way she wants it. I thought about putting you on ignore because you keep posting the same thing over and over and have a tendency to digress threads where I post with your same old drivel. But I am open minded and perhaps you might actually make a meaningful post some day since you have over 13K of them.
woinlove Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) For those wondering what this thread was for, turns out to be a useful resource for married, middle-age to old men wanting to hook up with 20 year old college girls, while deceiving their families. Perhaps your time would be better spent with your children? Edited October 25, 2012 by woinlove
Sauron Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Hello WO. I can't speak for the OP, but I spend lots of time with my kids. We are a very close family. You shouldn't judge our realtionship interest and desires and make the leap that we neglect our families. I guess some MM on here that have OW start neglecting their wives and growing cold towards them. My wife and I have had our issues, but as I have pointed out having my OW hasn't changed anything and we are happier than we probably have ever been. My interest in youger women is purely physical as I probably would have a hard time relating to them on any type of meaningful realtionship level.
woinlove Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Hello WO. I can't speak for the OP, but I spend lots of time with my kids. We are a very close family. You shouldn't judge our realtionship interest and desires and make the leap that we neglect our families. I guess some MM on here that have OW start neglecting their wives and growing cold towards them. My wife and I have had our issues, but as I have pointed out having my OW hasn't changed anything and we are happier than we probably have ever been. My interest in youger women is purely physical as I probably would have a hard time relating to them on any type of meaningful realtionship level. Personally, I find loving and supporting my children makes me more supportive of individuals who are just entering adulthood. It has given me the experience and insight to relate to them better as individuals at a very different stage in life than my own. It removes them as young flesh and sexual objects, and makes me relate to them as individuals, where all their potential and specialness comes from who they are. Kind of the opposite reaction you have. 1
CarboniteCammy Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 I was kind of with Owl on this one. Not sure if the OP was just here to brag, or what the whole point of this was other then to scare the jeebus of the happily married women who read this. It seems that there must be something missing for the OP to seek out others like himself such as Sauron. To each his own, but if I ever caught my husband doing something like this I honeslty don't know if I could reconcile, knowing that my entire relationship and life with him was based on deception. It's a dangerous game you two play, Sauron and Cold. I don't know if your stories are real or who you are in real life off of this forum, but if you are what you portray yourselves to be you risk an awful lot even posting on an anonymous board. All it takes is a curious wife who knows how to track your key strokes, or puts a GPS on your vehicle, or has you followed by a PI and then your marriages and your whole lives would dissolve and all just for some variety. I'm not a perfect person and I've made some major mistakes in my life and so I'm not coming at this from some moral high ground. I guess I just don't get this whole thing.
Just a Guy Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Hi Folks, I am rather surprised that so many of you are trying to get across the point to Sauron and So_Cold that what they are doing is wrong or morally reprehensible. The fact is they have a hardened attitude about what they are doing and are quite sure that there is nothing wrong in their actions or their decisions. They have convinced themselves that they are justified in doing what they are doing and by trying to engage them in a moral dialogue I guess all of you are wasting your time and energy. These guys are feeling quite inflated with their positions are enjoying all the attention they are getting. It would be better for all of you to ignore them and move on to cases of people who genuinely need your help and advice. By continuously responding to their posts all that is being achieved is that they get to be the center of attention and are reveling in their new found popularity with the members of this forum. You could go on till Kingdom come but they would not budge a millimeter from their stated positions and it would be a colossal waste of all your collective time and energy to try and convince them. Where I come from there is a saying that one cannot change a donkey into a horse no matter how much you try. Another saying puts it more succinctly. A dog's tail is always crooked and it will always remain crooked no matter how much you try to straighten it. Just lay off responding to them and they will fade into the sunset!! 1
angie2443 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 For those wondering what this thread was for, turns out to be a useful resource for married, middle-age to old men wanting to hook up with 20 year old college girls, while deceiving their families. Perhaps your time would be better spent with your children? I find the idea of either of these guys hanging around children, disturbing. If these guys are really as they present themselves here, they are, IMO, somewhat sadistic, lacking in morals and have no respect for others. These are not the kind of people that are good for families to be around. 1
Owl Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 So...what do you want from posting here on LS? What "support" are you hoping to find, "advice" are you hoping to hear? Still curious about this.
Author so_cold Posted October 25, 2012 Author Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) I was kind of with Owl on this one. Not sure if the OP was just here to brag, or what the whole point of this was other then to scare the jeebus of the happily married women who read this. It seems that there must be something missing for the OP to seek out others like himself such as Sauron. To each his own, but if I ever caught my husband doing something like this I honeslty don't know if I could reconcile, knowing that my entire relationship and life with him was based on deception. It's a dangerous game you two play, Sauron and Cold. I don't know if your stories are real or who you are in real life off of this forum, but if you are what you portray yourselves to be you risk an awful lot even posting on an anonymous board. All it takes is a curious wife who knows how to track your key strokes, or puts a GPS on your vehicle, or has you followed by a PI and then your marriages and your whole lives would dissolve and all just for some variety. I'm not a perfect person and I've made some major mistakes in my life and so I'm not coming at this from some moral high ground. I guess I just don't get this whole thing. I agree PI would be very very bad!! Everything else is of no consequence since communication is done solely through deletable apps every morning and evening. It's not that I have never communicated through email, but that's forever ago. Most younger woman are very familiar with all of the messaging apps around and actually prefer it. It all boils down to variety..............and something different from time to time. Some people like to hunt, fish, play sports, paint, garden, watch football all weekend, go to strip clubs, gamble, etc I like to take a trip and meet up with younger woman then come home as if nothing happened. The rest of the time I'm family focused to the Nth degree!! Have a great day all and make the right choice this presidential election **Sauron.........every girl is different you will see that. Just as we all have different wants and needs they too have different wants and needs. Some want to meet up ultra discretely for a romp.....(100% not for me) but some guys prefer this. Others want to really be spoiled trips, big allowances, etc. Good luck in your search!! **Owl.......as I said it was more like a diary as I do feel guilty from time to time. Also strictly informational it wasn't for any specific kind of response, validation, or approval. Edited October 25, 2012 by so_cold
Owl Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 **Owl.......as I said it was more like a diary as I do feel guilty from time to time. Also strictly informational it wasn't for any specific kind of response, validation, or approval. I'd suggest that this isn't a "safe place" to post a diary or journal. Others here reading this will respond with all those things you're not looking for. Nor do I believe that the 'intent' of LS is to provide that diary function. It's more of a place for folks who actually want advice or support...neither of which you want. In fact, your "journaling" here will likely trigger a lot of folks who are already hurting and dealing with their own pain after having been on the receiving end of the deception and betrayal that you're writing about here. It's a pretty good indicator on how your wife will likely react if/when she does learn the truth, but other than that it's probably not helping you or them. Just something you might consider. 3
frozensprouts Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Where I come from there is a saying that one cannot change a donkey into a horse no matter how much you try. agreed, but instead of the word "donkey" I'd use the word "jack@ss":) 9 aprt of me wonders if these posts on here are just someone trying to advertise their website)
CarboniteCammy Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Ah, it's the thrill of the secrecy and getting caught that spices up your every day "dull" life. Must be pretty lonley to have a hobby like that. I mean, you can't share it with any of your real life friends. They wouldn't understand. Your wife, who should be your best friend, definitely wouldn't understand. What a shame. I can see why you post here. I do rather hope you both get caught, I have to admit. 2
angie2443 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 agreed, but instead of the word "donkey" I'd use the word "jack@ss":) 9 aprt of me wonders if these posts on here are just someone trying to advertise their website) How funny! I think this could be it. It just makes sense. If not, then these are just two attention starved individuals feeding off all of our posts on this thread.
woinlove Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 9 aprt of me wonders if these posts on here are just someone trying to advertise their website) If so, seems to have worked! One active taker and who knows how many old married men are lurking, just looking for tips on hooking up with college girls.
2sunny Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 There's always a "risk" that being involved in that environment carries... Doing oral on a gal poses the possibility that you may carry any diseases 'home' to your W - and her performing oral on you married men - poses a risk that may also show up eventually on the home front as well. Face it - these young gals are there to 'earn money' from many men who are willing to pay... And are likely to bring 'their baggage' into that R ( if that's what you call that arrangement).
Negative Nancy Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 This is just the exact reason i'm not married. Nor do i trust easily. yeah this thread once again reinforces why men shouldn't be trusted it also makes having a family and being a good loyal wife a cynical joke because being loyal isn't rewarded by men nowadays I wonder how the OP would feel if his wife did the same?
Negative Nancy Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 wanting variety, which as I man I can tell you we ALL crave it If this is true, then why be with one woman? Reading this really makes me not want to be in a relationship anymore
KathyM Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 agreed, but instead of the word "donkey" I'd use the word "jack@ss":) 9 aprt of me wonders if these posts on here are just someone trying to advertise their website) I think that's true. I wonder the same thing. Kind of makes a person feel like their time and effort was wasted in responding to such posts. But I guess some people will do anything for money.
Negative Nancy Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 If you understood the pain of this kind of betrayal.... You have no idea. Your wife is going to be destroyed when she finds out and she will never be the same. You will have stolen years from her and ruined the one life she has to live. You have no idea. And there will be nothing that you or anyone else can do. Dramatic weight loss, post-traumatic stress disorder, antidepressants, lack of sleep for months, work productivity in the toilet if she manages to keep her job, uncontrollable crying, rage, hypervigilance, inability to ever trust anyone again, mind racing, mind movies of everything you have done with these women, and triggers of all of it everywhere she goes. Hope she deserves it. You've nailed it.
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