kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) You are making my point. It is not so much if your lover has over the top physical skills. You may find a man that is the best in the world in giving oral sex and you may not cum if you are not mentally stimulated. You said it yourself. I suggest, you re-examined yourself. You are a bit confused about your sexuality. She doesnt need to re-examine herself. Her not being mentally stimulated by 2 losers had to do with their sexually boring and selfish nature. Whats there to examine about her? What woman would have an easy time orgasming with these men? And did you miss the part where the OP said she got off anyways, even though it wasnt a great orgasm?A gf of mine faked this "chemistry" for close to 10 years before they break up and obviously the guy had no idea. He just thought he was that good lol another one synchronizes her fake orgasm with every new guy. Its a shame that women do this but it seems to be the only way to keep the fragile male's ego happy. . Its about her ego too if she needs to fake. Im a very sexual guy who aims for both people to be happy, so I hope to god I dont waste my time on a woman like your friends. What happened to sexual communication. Its just as much their fault as it is the guys. Edited October 21, 2012 by kaylan
mesmerized Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Didnt know 1 woman represents all women. You sound like an immature teenager who has little grip of female sexuality. Honestly, his story doesnt add up. Women who cum very easily ARE usually hypersexual. He is claiming he has a woman that can cum easily but is happy with whatever sex frequency/action he gives her, doesnt expect much and is not hypersexual. This is some true bs, sorry.
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Honestly, his story doesnt add up. Women who cum very easily ARE usually hypersexual. He is claiming he has a woman that can cum easily but is happy with whatever sex frequency/action he gives her, doesnt expect much and is not hypersexual. This is some true bs, sorry. I wouldnt be surprised if one day she turned out to be faking. The stories Ive read online from women who say theyve behaved that way in the bedroom, always preface the story with how they simply put on an act for a lousy lover. These "truly orgasmic" women Pierre speak of sound eerily similar to the "truly orgasmic" women I see in porn. And porn is "real" sex right? 1
mesmerized Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 She doesnt need to re-examine herself. Her not being mentally stimulated by 2 losers had to do with their sexually boring and selfish nature. Whats there to examine about her? What woman would have an easy time orgasming with these men? And did you miss the part where the OP said she got off anyways, even though it wasnt a great orgasm? Its about her ego too if she needs to fake. Im a very sexual guy who aims for both people to be happy, so I hope to god I dont waste my time on a woman like your friends. What happened to sexual communication. Its just as much their fault as it is the guys. Women fake for many different reasons. The most important and common reason is to keep the guy happy or to prevent him from straying. Surprisingly, it works As men want to stay with a woman that make them feel good about themselves, even if they have no skill or talent like the pierre guy.
mesmerized Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I wouldnt be surprised if one day she turned out to be faking. The stories Ive read online from women who say theyve behaved that way in the bedroom, always preface the story with how they simply put on an act for a lousy lover. These "truly orgasmic" women Pierre speak of sound eerily similar to the "truly orgasmic" women I see in porn. And porn is "real" sex right? Hahaha, sounds about right.
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Women fake for many different reasons. The most important and common reason is to keep the guy happy or to prevent him from straying. Surprisingly, it works As men want to stay with a woman that make them feel good about themselves, even if they have no skill or talent like the pierre guy. Well Id like to think Im more aware of emotions and sexual feelings than most guys, seeing as I consider myself a rather empathetic, sympathetic, and analytical guy. So I sure hope a girl talks to me about what makes her feel good instead of pulling the wool over my eyes. My ex didnt orgasm for a bit when we first starting dating and I always reassured her that it was no big deal to me, and I just took care of her best I could. I didnt pout or show negative body language like some guys will. If we are both trying to make the other feel good, and they are feeling good during the action, its not the end of the world if an orgasm doesnt always happen for either party. I think people forget that sex can be great without an O, and sometimes it doesnt always happen (even for guys). If more people understood this, I feel more orgasms would occur because people would stop fixating on the finish line, and more so focus on the journey. Like for me, its like when I eat the Hershey sundae pie from Burger King. I love it...and my favorite part is the cookie crust at the bottom of a slice. Do I rush to the bottom? Nope, I enjoy all the ice cream and whipped cream flavors on top and take my time. Make me appreciate the whole thing even though the finish is great. 2
Author zanesfan Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 I was just thinking from another angle as to why these two back 2 backs were "horrible lovers". Maybe they werent that into you. I stated in my first post that I never had sex with these men. We communicated what we liked and didnt like. However, one did gave me oral. The one that gave me oral, I slightly considered having sex with him but anytime I brushed up against his penis he quickly moved my hand. He asked me early on what size I like, if I like girth, what was too big for me, etc. I had a strong feeling he was insecure about his size. So I asked to see it, he wouldnt let me see it let alone touch it.
Author zanesfan Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 I think people forget that sex can be great without an O, and sometimes it doesnt always happen (even for guys). If more people understood this, I feel more orgasms would occur because people would stop fixating on the finish line, and more so focus on the journey. ^^^^ This!!! This was definitely me looking back. About a decade ago, I was so concerned with reaching the big O that I forgot to enjoy myself. I didnt understand why I couldnt get there. I realized I wanted it too bad. I had to change my whole frame of thought. Once I started to relax a bit, they started rolling out. Now I dont even think about it. I enjoy it for what it is and when Im on the edge, I just let go... and boy do I let go.
suladas Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I stated in my first post that I never had sex with these men. We communicated what we liked and didnt like. However, one did gave me oral. The one that gave me oral, I slightly considered having sex with him but anytime I brushed up against his penis he quickly moved my hand. He asked me early on what size I like, if I like girth, what was too big for me, etc. I had a strong feeling he was insecure about his size. So I asked to see it, he wouldnt let me see it let alone touch it. There's just one word for that, gay. No straight guy is going to push your hand away. I go crazy anytime i'm making out with a women and she undoes my pants and starts stroking it.
Author zanesfan Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 Thank you for making my point. It is hard for you to get there. Women like you often becoem obsessed with sex while looking for the holy grail of the big O. Orgasmic women don't do that because they always had the big O. The orgasm is a given and there is no need to be so analytical or performance. Why are you still talking about orgasmic women? I thought 5 or 6 people already proved your whole theory wrong about women and orgasms. This is so off topic. Get over yourself already... #HUGEFAIL!!!
Author zanesfan Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 The OP herself admitted that for ten years she had great difficulties in achieving an orgasm. Ugh.. when will you stop? You are definitely putting words in my mouth. I said 10 years ago, I had difficulty....not for 10 years. Stop trying to make a point by misconstruing my words. 1
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I was certain your experience was different than mine. Dude, highly orgasmic woman are rare, so don't get discourage.Discouraged? I sure am not. Ive had highly orgasmic women. And I, as well as women here, and other women can tell you that intercourse orgasms dont dictate who is or isnt highly orgasmic. Get over yourself. And forget that BS that sex without an orgasm feels great. YOu now sound like a woman! Just when I thought you couldnt sound more like an idiot. Sex dont feel great without an orgasm noob. Hell, I only cum from oral about half the time, but that doesnt mean oral doesnt feel great and that I dont crave it. I am not going to say your ex did not orgasm because of you. She was probably anorgasmic! Like I said before, it is rather common. These are the women that fake it dude. Orgasmic women have no need to fake it.She was not anorgasmic...stop being simple minded. We were simply getting comfortable with one another, and its a fact that women dont come at the drop of a dime like many men do. Once she became comfortable with me, and once we found out how to push one anothers buttons, things ran like clockwork. I certainly can give myself orgasms with ease, but sometimes its hard for me to cum if the girl doesnt click with me. Does that make me or anyone else anorgasmic? The fact that people figure out what works as a couple and begin having many orgasms proves your spouting a bunch of bull****tHere is another guy that hs dated nothing but fakers. You guys are giving opinions based on your perspective. And you arent?
xxoo Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 An orgasmic woman is simply a woman that has no problems in having an orgasm. By definition an orgasmic woman has no need to fake. Even orgasmic women can need some time to get in sync with a new partner. Faking stands in the way of becoming orgasmic with a partner. I don't believe that it is so rare for women to be able to be orgasmic, but it may be rare for women to feel confident enough to be honest about the process, and resist the urge to fake. I've personally never felt the urge to fake, even during the couple months it took us to figure out my triggers as a young couple.
LittlePrince Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Im having a dilemma here. I was dating heavily at one point. Now not so much. The last 2 guys that I talked to didnt see eye to eye with me on sex. I am a very sexual person and for me to be happy I like to be very open. The guys I talk to really arent into what Im into. They are not willing to try anything new. And Im not talking about golden showers, bondage, or any of that crazy stuff. More basic stuff like foreplay (giving and receiving), public sex haha, using toys, etc. These guys were so close minded and I knew I could never bed them or be with them. Also I think one is very insecure about his penis size. On the flip side there is a guy that I have a love/hate relationship with. He is daring like me. He makes me want to try new things and dont mind when I push the limits. I cant stand his as* sometimes because I feel like he led me on. However he is the only one I feel is worth having sex with. And I dont want to give him the benefit of bedding me anymore but I love having sex with him. Any suggestions? Stop being a creepy predator. Call Dateline.
mesmerized Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Here is another guy that hs dated nothing but fakers. You guys are giving opinions based on your perspective. What? Lol Im a woman! Honestly at 40 something years old, you know so little about female sexuality its scary. And thats exactly why I think your woman fakes with you. You are arrogant and ignorant and sound like you lack skills, it would be useless to want to teach you something. 1
LittlePrince Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 What? Lol Im a woman! Honestly at 40 something years old, you know so little about female sexuality its scary. And thats exactly why I think your woman fakes with you. You are arrogant and ignorant and sound like you lack skills, it would be useless to want to teach you something. Man says something woman doesn't like. Woman attacks man's masculinity. The cycle continues..... And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon Little boy blue and the man on the moon When you comin' home dad? I don't know when, but we'll get together then son You know we'll have a good time then
LittlePrince Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 It is a moot point if you are male or female. You think all womEn fake. You speak from your perspective. In any event I agree, a lot of women fake. The point is that a true orgasmic woman has no need to fake it. She may be sleeping with a loser of teh Prince of Wales. It does not matter, she is orgasmic AND THERE IS NO NEED TO FAKE IT TO IMPRESS. So in other words a woman's orgasm doesn't matter since a man has no influence over it. Thus the man's orgasm reigns supreme yet again.
mesmerized Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) I dont even think you know what orgasmic means. Ive probably had more orgasms in my life than you have and im more than a decade younger. I know my body very well and how to please it myself or with a partner and even i need a good partner for great sex. You are way too naive if you really think you looking at your penis when its getting blown is enough to keep your "orgasmic" woman happy for the rest of your life. Oh and to be fair, i dont think all women fake but i think yours does and i can see why. And like any other man who has a faker girl, you dont want to believe it. Edited October 21, 2012 by mesmerized 1
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Man says something woman doesn't like. Woman attacks man's masculinity. The cycle continues..... And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon Little boy blue and the man on the moon When you comin' home dad? I don't know when, but we'll get together then son You know we'll have a good time then Pierre wasnt attacking female sexuality (which in turn is a target on their femininity) by making silly assertions about who is truly orgasmic or anorgasmic? Come on now. Dont be a dude whos blind to his misdeeds because hes a male. If a woman was mouthing off in a thread about guys being non sexual you and others would be saying how its an attack on the guys masculinity. Dont be so blind.
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 It is a moot point if you are male or female. You think all womEn fake. You speak from your perspective. In any event I agree, a lot of women fake. The point is that a true orgasmic woman has no need to fake it. She may be sleeping with a loser of teh Prince of Wales. It does not matter, she is orgasmic AND THERE IS NO NEED TO FAKE IT TO IMPRESS. When has mesmerized ever said she feels all women fake? She has said in the past that many women have faked at one time or another, but that doesnt mean all women fake. And she herself has said she doesnt want to do that. An orgasmic woman (or man) is one who can have and has had orgasms. So its stupid of you to have made an earlier assertion that OP was anorgasmic simply because she hooked up with a loser who didnt care to get her off (even though she still did despite it being lame)
xxoo Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 But, the question remains: Why would a very orgasmic woman need to fake it? Do men fake orgasms? Why would a highly orgasmic woman need to fake? It amkes no sense. It seems you think a highly orgasmic woman is able to orgasm in any situation whatsoever--even with a complete dud of a lover. That's absurd. Still, I never understood the "need" to fake. I'd be honest, and let the chips fall where they may 1
LittlePrince Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Adding words to a person's post and then making fun of it is called a straw man. Very poor form! It might be if it was an argument against.
carhill Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Still, I never understood the "need" to fake. I'd be honest, and let the chips fall where they may My exW agreed and would directly tell me when she wasn't 'feeling it', and in a way which wasn't offensive. My historical/current perspective is that we are each responsible for our own pleasure and communicating what turns us on so took no offense when such feelings were communicated. Having years of experience with her gave a more complete perspective regarding such matters, and I was always willing to experiment with different ideas to address such issues, if helpful. I recall she had more issues while taking some anti-anxiety meds when my mom was living with us but they tapered off later, after ceasing the meds, and my mom being moved out. I understood we're not machines, neither in the bedroom or outside of it. Sometimes the bedroom 'sucked' but I was OK with that. One moment in a lifetime of moments. 1
Els Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Let me see if i can explain this a bit better. When she makes me very aroused she gets even more aroused. She gets off on making me aroused. She would rather give than receive because she is so orgasmic she would cum way too fast if she is on the receiving end. She can cum as fast as a man. IF she is giving me oral and I reach orgasm all she has to do is touch herself very briefly and her orgasm cums. She always synchronizes her orgasms with mine. I do agree, that there are not many women in the planet that can do this. Yes, and I am sure there are also a few men on this planet that can orgasm solely from giving their wife oral and never having their penis touched. They get off on making her so aroused and would rather give than receive because they are so orgasmic. Clearly you aren't one of those 'Truly Orgasmic Men'. Tsk, you anorgasmic fluke. You should let your Truly Orgasmic Woman be with a Truly Orgasmic Man instead of making her put up with your Anorgasmia. 1
dasein Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Haven't read the whole thread. Some of OP's desires are controversial for reasons other thans sexual openness. Sex in public will and has gotten many men in legal trouble. Most of us know one or are one. Many women don't understand that police often view minor criminal acts of women as "cute" or an opportunity for a comeon. Simultaneously they view the same acts by a man as predatory, worthy of a night in jail or worse, up to and including a sex offender registry, which men are learning to fear. In most states, there is no statutory difference between getting a BJ in a parking lot and purposefully flashing a shopping mall or nursing home. Police presence and the "misdemeanor industry" in this country is at an epidemic high. I think OP may be broaching the topic of sex practice desires a little early, and if she waited awhile and contented herself with vanilla stuff in the first couple of months, she would find her partners more receptive to new things over time.
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