Author zanesfan Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 She didn't say during the action but in the morning, she said she felt like she was degraded. This is so true. I personally dont feel this way but it does seem kind of weird to me that people have so many stipulations about sex. Its to be enjoyable and if women/men are always thinking, no no no, sex will never be good. Some women liked to be slapped, choked, called dirty names, etc. This is my eyes is somewhat ok lol. Maybe Im just weird... well minus the slapping part Im assuming the women you are referring to would probably run to the bathroom and cry her eyes out.
xxoo Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 If you keep pushing her/him to do something they are not comfortable, obviously it won't last long. that's what I was trying to say. Of course, that's true. I don't see a problem with saying "let's do something different" when someone isnt' enjoying a sex act. It's depressing to read about people going along with acts they feel are degrading. Why do that? Why lead someone to believe you like something, when you don't? That moves you farther from truly great sex. OTOH, if she enjoyed it at the time, and only later felt degraded....that's a different issue. And who knows what that is about, unless you talk about it more and try to figure it out.
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Yep, she is anosgarsmic! A good orgasmic women cums with penetration and does not need that much oral. And if she gets oral she cums right away! Case closed! Im assuming this was in jest. If not I have to ask this: Wtf? What century are you from? A woman can be very orgasmic despite not cumming from penetration. Hell the vast majority of women cant cum from penetration alone. They generally need a "helping hand" during intercourse or only get off from oral. 1
threebyfate Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 OTOH, if she enjoyed it at the time, and only later felt degraded....that's a different issue. And who knows what that is about, unless you talk about it more and try to figure it out.Have you seen this article on "How arousal overrides disgust during sex"?
xxoo Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Have you seen this article on "How arousal overrides disgust during sex"? That's common sense to me. Still, if she enjoyed while turned on, is there a problem? (short of something dangerous)
threebyfate Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 That's common sense to me. Still, if she enjoyed while turned on, is there a problem? (short of something dangerous)Depends on how far she stepped out of her comfort zone. I don't have this problem in that my boundaries are pretty firm but it's easy to see how something like this might happen to someone who's more passive, more of a people pleaser.
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) ^True orgasmic woman? And I said most women cannot cum with penetration ALONE. Plenty of girls will tell you that playing with their clit will get them to where they need to be...and that having that kind of orgasm during intercourse makes it much better. I wouldnt say that makes a woman any less truly orgasmic simply because she cant have her intercourse orgasm with solely penile penetration. Stop centering sex solely around your dik and grow up. You obviously have no idea how the female body is layed out down there. Not every woman has the same nerve endings in their vagina. And usually women who come from penetration alone, are those lucky women whos clitoral nerve endings extend into their vaginas...one of those places being the G spot. And not every girl reacts the same to that kinda of stimulation...nevermind the fact some women feel a curved finger hits that spot better than a penis. It depends on the girl. Women are variable and not as simple as a penis. You sound like a teenager who tries to equate female sexuality to the ease at which most men orgasm. Sorry, any woman who can experience orgasm is a true orgasmic woman. Grow the hell up and meet us in the 21st century. And for a guy whos always telling younger guys how "real men" should be, you sure make yourself look foolish right now. PS - if you read OPs posts, youd see she didnt neglect the brain. She highlighted that the guys boring and selfish attitudes played a large role in her not being able to reach orgasm. So thats what I have to say to your cliche line about the brain being the biggest sex organ. And clearly you ignored the post where OP said she orgasmd with ease with the "player" guy. So it doesnt sound to me that she has trouble with orgasm. Id have trouble with orgasm if I was hooking up with a girl who had oral sex hang ups or acted selfish in bed. You obviously skipped that post huh? Guys like that wont get most, if any, women off. Edited October 21, 2012 by kaylan 3
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I like you, but you are coming across as the "white knight" I gave my opinion. Not uptight at all. That is how I view the situation Im white knighting all because I called you out for not accurately reading the OPs posts? Gimme a break.
Charlie Harper Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Sex is like dancing, you need to learn the steps, the rhythms and the pace. Some poeple are born with some vibe and that is good, but being a good lover takes time, learning skills, willingness to adapt, and very important the hability to read the needs of your partner. Everyperson is different but the basics remain. Also you need to find someone who has more or less the same sex drive you have, so everyone is happy in the long run. I completely concur with the OP that most men will freak out if the woman is very experienced, has good or great technique and instead of enjoying that they know how to have great sex, they get insecure and label the woman a slut, and what are experienced men? you have to be sensitive to get the signals of what women like and how they like it, most men will not get the typical "dont stop" for what it is: KEEP DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING" it doesnt mean go crazy, go afster or harder.... a simple istruction that most men do not understand, so it figures out that going down on a woman is rocket science to most guys (if they EVEN want to go there, let alone kiss decently not like some perv or a porn star)...
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I guess you never experienced a true multi-orgasmic woman that cums with penetration. Women that are this way don't worry about having an orgasm. They don't need an act of congress to reach the orgasmic plateau.Why are you being so arrogant about this. Plenty of women are multi orgasmic and cum from clitoral stimulation. Maybe you should do some more reading. If someone can orgasm, than they are orgasmic. Save the "true" crap for someone else. I dont get off on anal stimulation, but Im not going to speak condescendingly on people who do and tell them its not a "true" orgsm. In fact, some get off by pleasing their men. They get off in causing pleasure for the man. They don't depend on where the man places his tongue. These woman don't need anything specific because they are truly sexual. Oh gimme a break dude. You are contradicting yourself. So the truly orgasmic and sexual dont need anything specific, yet you are arguing that getting off on penetration alone makes them truly orgasmic. You cant have it both ways. Some are so good that they can synchronize their orgasms. As soon as the male starts to cum they let it go to have a synchronized bombastic orgasm. Um ok...and Ive been with women who can do this with clitoral orgasms. They were in sync with me and we had control over her orgasm the entire session. Is she truly orgasmic now? These orgasmic women don't go around thinking about techniques and where she wants the tongue of her lover. The great orgasms are a given as long as she is into the guy. No need to raise the bar constantly, they are good to go at any time and can even cum with their clothes on if they cannot get naked. They dont go around thinking about techniques? Yet you are here telling us that orgasms induced by penile penetration (a sexual technique) is what makes someone truly orgasmic. Talk about a guy who thinks the penis is the center of all sex. Youre trapped in an old way of viewing sex and female sexuality bro. But, more importantly, they rather please than receive pleasure because they have no difficulty cumming. Maybe one day you will meet one.Lolol. I have been with women who have had no difficulty cumming. Ive also been with women who had difficulty cumming. The OP definitely does not sound like someone who has difficulty reaching orgasm. Even these "truly orgasmic" women you speak of would have trouble reaching orgasm with boring and selfish lovers like the OP has had. Hell, most guys can get off VERY easily, and yet dudes can tell you enough stories about girls who were so lame in bed that they went soft. Stop trying to shame the OP (and women like her), when its clear the 2 guys she talked about in her previous posts had no true desire to connect with her sexually. 1
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Who is saying they have sex with so many women? And I wasnt aware you had a log in indicator that shows you people are logged in 24/7 1
Charlie Harper Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 that is false LOL ask your wife or GF ..if you have one...
mesmerized Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Obviously you never had a true orgasmic woman. They cum with penetration---------and yes I agree, most women cannot cum with penetration. But, when you find one then you know you are in business. That does not mean they do not enjoy oral and everything else, but if you were to give oral to a true orgasmic woman it would not take 20 minutes (like OP). Another poster said: SEX is all in the largest sexual organ and that is the BRAIN. OP is looking for physical skills and neglects the BRAIN. An orgasmic woman can cum with a bit of nibbling on her breast if the brain is working. I stand by my point that OP has trouble reaching orgasm and hence she is blaming the men she meets. Omfg, what a load of crap. First, honey she has been faking for you. Second, women who cum by pleasing and don't even need a touch to cum are probably as rare as one in millions if they exist at all. Are you saying its the rest of womens problem?? Do you happen to know what logic is? Your post is so dumb it hurts the brain. 3
MonsterMash Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Just going to touch on something for the OP real quick..... You say you want a man to go down on you after he's finished in you, yes? Most males, myself included, won't do this. Why? Because to a dominant male, this is seen as a submissive position and they won't go there. If this is really what you want then you need to find a submissive male you can order around.
Author zanesfan Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 Just going to touch on something for the OP real quick..... You say you want a man to go down on you after he's finished in you, yes? Most males, myself included, won't do this. Why? Because to a dominant male, this is seen as a submissive position and they won't go there. If this is really what you want then you need to find a submissive male you can order around. No, I dont want a man to go down on me after he has finished in me. What I was saying was some men will sex you for a little bit and lick it for a little bit. Just like some women may ride for a little bit and then suck it for a little bit. Whats wrong with that?
Author zanesfan Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 Obviously you never had a true orgasmic woman. They cum with penetration---------and yes I agree, most women cannot cum with penetration. But, when you find one then you know you are in business. That does not mean they do not enjoy oral and everything else, but if you were to give oral to a true orgasmic woman it would not take 20 minutes (like OP). Another poster said: SEX is all in the largest sexual organ and that is the BRAIN. OP is looking for physical skills and neglects the BRAIN. An orgasmic woman can cum with a bit of nibbling on her breast if the brain is working. I stand by my point that OP has trouble reaching orgasm and hence she is blaming the men she meets. Im sorry to be the one that burst your bubble, but this is just foolery. I am going to assume that you've had your fair share of lovers. How many of those women are very orgasmic? How many came from nibbling on their breast or receiving oral for a few minutes? Let me tell you this.... women has been faking for decades. And unfortunately it sounds like these are the types of women you are meeting. And who said I was highly orgasmic? I never said that. That was something you created. I just said I enjoyed sex. Do I orgasm... yes I do. And as far as the brain, it can work for or against you. If Im not mentally stimulated by a man, sex is going to be a drab. But if he arouses all of my senses, its going to be amazing. A lot of this has to do with a man's confidence in my book. 1
xxoo Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 That does not mean they do not enjoy oral and everything else, but if you were to give oral to a true orgasmic woman it would not take 20 minutes (like OP). Another poster said: SEX is all in the largest sexual organ and that is the BRAIN. OP is looking for physical skills and neglects the BRAIN. You are characterizing a woman as "orgasmic" or "anorgasmic" based on her experience with one man. If that man didn't turn her on (engage her brain), that is not a reflection of her orgasmic ability. I very much agree about the mental aspect. Get a good tease going on, drawing out foreplay and building arousal, and a simple touch can put a person over the edge. But that takes a very special, in tuned lover, skilled in the art of seduction. So we are right back to: Men who suck in the bedroom. 2
Els Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Omfg, what a load of crap. First, honey she has been faking for you. Second, women who cum by pleasing and don't even need a touch to cum are probably as rare as one in millions if they exist at all. Are you saying its the rest of womens problem?? Do you happen to know what logic is? Your post is so dumb it hurts the brain. Meh, I'm sure they exist, just like I'm sure that if one looked hard enough, one could pull from the fabric of existence some 'Truly Orgasmic Man' who cums solely from focusing on his gf's clitoris with his mouth and hands without his penis even being touched, every time... :lmao: 3
xxoo Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Meh, I'm sure they exist, just like I'm sure that if one looked hard enough, one could pull from the fabric of existence some 'Truly Orgasmic Man' who cums solely from focusing on his gf's clitoris with his mouth and hands without his penis even being touched, every time... :lmao: He'd be called a Premature Ejaculator 3
xxoo Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I do agree, that there are not many women in the planet that can do this. Interesting that you credit the woman. My H and I have this dynamic, and I credit him. In truth, it is probably the chemistry between the two. Same woman, different man--different experience entirely.
MonsterMash Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 No, I dont want a man to go down on me after he has finished in me. What I was saying was some men will sex you for a little bit and lick it for a little bit. Just like some women may ride for a little bit and then suck it for a little bit. Whats wrong with that? I read that wrong apparently. I don't see what their problem is then.
mesmerized Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I'll be keeping an eye out for a break-up thread A gf of mine faked this "chemistry" for close to 10 years before they break up and obviously the guy had no idea. He just thought he was that good lol another one synchronizes her fake orgasm with every new guy. Its a shame that women do this but it seems to be the only way to keep the fragile male's ego happy. Believe me dear, I am no prude in the bedroom and far from offended. Words get lost in translation. I was just thinking from another angle as to why these two back 2 backs were "horrible lovers". Maybe they werent that into you. And for the record I dont echo Pierre's sentiments. You dont have sex with men, you just see yourself and you think all men are like you. You cant really judge here because you havent experienced what we have. Some men are just like the op described, not enthusiastic, dont even know how to kiss or touch. Some other men, entirely different story...they know and can learn how to push your buttons, they are very passionate and know how to please every single part of your body. Unlike what people assume though, being good at sex has nothing to do with how many people you have been with but how much you got to practice in relationships. You could have been with one person and learned a lot or with 20 and learned nothing.
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 No, I dont want a man to go down on me after he has finished in me. What I was saying was some men will sex you for a little bit and lick it for a little bit. Just like some women may ride for a little bit and then suck it for a little bit. Whats wrong with that? Ya its pretty standard for people to give oral in the middle of sex. Hell, I havent seen girls have a problem going down on me after they have finished, so why should I have much problem doing the same. And unlike some guys, I dont have any aversion to genital juices at all. And why would I be adverse to my own if I expect women Im with to enjoy them?
kaylan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Dude It is not my fault if my GF thinks my penis is the center of all sex. She wants to cum with the penis inside of her, that is just the way she is. I am telling you, once you find a woman like this you count your blessings.Didnt know 1 woman represents all women. You sound like an immature teenager who has little grip of female sexuality.
xxoo Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 A gf of mine faked this "chemistry" for close to 10 years before they break up and obviously the guy had no idea. He just thought he was that good lol another one synchronizes her fake orgasm with every new guy. Its a shame that women do this but it seems to be the only way to keep the fragile male's ego happy. But this chemistry does exist, of course. Women who fake really screw things up for both men and women Unlike what people assume though, being good at sex has nothing to do with how many people you have been with but how much you got to practice in relationships. You could have been with one person and learned a lot or with 20 and learned nothing. That's for sure!
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