jcrew11 Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I think women don't want to give out signals to "the wrong guy" and "Lead him on" which could result in "assault or rape." I think its more about cautious and "alpha/loser testing" the guy to make sure he is worthy of being a boyfriend. Also, most women live in a "Romantic comedy fantasy world" where they think dating is like in the romantic comedy movies. They think true love is a "meet cute" situation with Tom Hanks, Ryan Gosling, Bradley Cooper, etc.
El Brujo Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Except guys HATE when girls are in touch with their masculine side. It's one of the common complaints leveled at me... that I'm too "manly." That I argue like a man, have male interests, and am aggressive like a man. Guys HATE that. Nuthin' wrong with that IMO. It would be a great world if there were a lot more women who could think like men.
Drseussgrrl Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Haha no we don't. That's garbage. But all of my ltr's have been with men who made no qualms about picking up the phone and asking me out on a proper date. I'm not getting why this is so hard to grasp. I'm pretty sure my interest was evident when I replied happily and we had a good time.
Drseussgrrl Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Still waiting to hear how I acted like an entitled, spoiled princess this week. Thanks.
SteveC80 Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Still waiting to hear how I acted like an entitled, spoiled princess this week. Thanks. You said you are the prize to BE WON as if your above the guy and he has to prove his worth to you
Author John Stiles Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 If the shoe don't fit, then don't worry about it. Why are you getting so uptight when a very valid point about women in general is made? The truth is that an awful lot of women are lazy and make very little (if any) effort, and are entitlement princesses, especially western women. If that's not you then don't get your knickers in a twist over it. If you think you're an exception then good for you but this is about women in general.
Author John Stiles Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 Still waiting to hear how I acted like an entitled, spoiled princess this week. Thanks. I think Steve has fulfilled your wish very nicely. Any more requests?
Drseussgrrl Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Well, he does in a way. It's part of the dance. It comes down to the mating ritual. Women by nature are far choosier about who they sleep with. Men for the most part are happy if they can get it from a butterface at 2am. It's biology and why women have a harder time carrying on long term casual sex arrangements without their feelings getting involved. And don't try to argue that- I see it in real life every single day. 1
phineas Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I agree with scratch. Guys allow women to do the things they do. Are you a supplicating brah whos that hard up for tail that you allow women to do the things you dislike, yet still chase them? Or are you a dude with some self respect, who has no problem nexting a chick when you feel shes acted out of line? I next them but not before I give them a warning. 9 times out of 10 they don't heed it & get PISSED when I follow through & ignore, then try to make it seem to other's as if i'm the jerk. Makes me LOL! Like dealing with my kids.
ThaWholigan Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Well, he does in a way. It's part of the dance. It comes down to the mating ritual. Women by nature are far choosier about who they sleep with. Men for the most part are happy if they can get it from a butterface at 2am. It's biology and why women have a harder time carrying on long term casual sex arrangements without their feelings getting involved. And don't try to argue that- I see it in real life every single day. I think the fact that they see it as "effort" speaks volumes. 1
CptObvious Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Except guys HATE when girls are in touch with their masculine side. It's one of the common complaints leveled at me... that I'm too "manly." That I argue like a man, have male interests, and am aggressive like a man. Guys HATE that. So how bout you all just make up your minds already? Someone seems a little pissy just because they got bro-zoned
Author John Stiles Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 Well, he does in a way. It's part of the dance. It comes down to the mating ritual. Women by nature are far choosier about who they sleep with. Men for the most part are happy if they can get it from a butterface at 2am. It's biology and why women have a harder time carrying on long term casual sex arrangements without their feelings getting involved. And don't try to argue that- I see it in real life every single day. Oh look, the princess is now a scientist. Now it's a mating ritual, I see. The only reason why so many men settle for entitlement princesses is simply, and sadly, because that is by far the majority of what's on offer. That's why women with bad attitudes and nothing to offer can be picky. Of course they can.
SteveC80 Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I think the fact that they see it as "effort" speaks volumes. lol at this gabrage.Women use biology only when it suits them People need to take repsonsibilty for themslves not biology or what happened thosuands of years ago its quite weak
phineas Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Except guys HATE when girls are in touch with their masculine side. It's one of the common complaints leveled at me... that I'm too "manly." That I argue like a man, have male interests, and am aggressive like a man. Guys HATE that. So how bout you all just make up your minds already? I've seen your pics. You are def. all woman. Sounds to me like your dating insecure beta's that feel their manhood is threatened by you. 1
ThaWholigan Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 lol at this gabrage.Women use biology only when it suits them People need to take repsonsibilty for themslves not biology or what happened thosuands of years ago its quite weak I don't care about biology in this case - I'm not even a woman . I just don't see what you guys are even complaining about. When I'm courting a woman, it's not "effort" on my part. So I don't care what she does, as long as it's attractive to me, entertaining and I enjoy her company. All this talk about effort - this ain't a sport 1
Woggle Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Some of the posts in this thread show it is not just men who need to move into the 21st century. I was never one of those men who think that women have their specific roles and that they should never step outside of those bounds but don't expect men to stay in a box either. I think things would be so much better if men and women met each other halfway as equals. Relationships on an equal footing tend to be the happiest. I have always treated the women I date as full equals and I am in a happy marriage right now. Also if the man gives and the woman recieves what exactly does the man get out of that? What benefit is there to him in that dynamic.
Woggle Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 They say that women are a mystery and that they're really hard to understand. Many a book has been written on the subject. But the part that I bolded makes it crystal clear. Women, naturally, are great creatures, but it's feminism that has messed so many of them up, rendering them childlike. It's not feminism. It's the fact that some and I don't mean all want the benefits of feminism but don't want to stop receiving the perks they only had because society treated them like children. I am glad that women stop being treated like children because no adult should ever want that but at the same time they shouldn't still be taken care of as if they are children. The women who get this tend to do much better in relationships.
todreaminblue Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 These are some valid points. Prepare for the attack. As we know.. the women on this forum are not introspective and never really consider how they can improve themselves to be more attractive to men. Instead, they shame the men who give suggestions and tell them they need to change their ways. Men always need to change. Women on this forum are perfect and flawless. Watch and see. And I'm just talking about the women on this forum.. not women in general. i just got off the floor rolling around laughing myself stupid reading the opening post....and then i read your reply started me giggling again..So I am waiting now for perfect women to reply..so thanks for that....perfect and flawless eh.(insert giggle here)...dont think so.....maybe we embrace our flaws which are numerous......im about to embrace my masculine side and ask you two guys " have you guys been smoking the happy stuff again"....... chewing the old therapeutic mint maybe..... been on the magic mushroom farm......if so......ummmm.... ill stare at you long and hard till you get paranoid.....i love doing that to people who are tripping or bent.........its one of my flaws and just gotta do it things i have to do..... im ocd.suffer from schizo affective disorder and was feeling pretty blue today......perfect and flawless example number one.......lol....lol....sorry one more.....lol.... cheer up women have orgasms that are worse than heroin so you aint got it as bad as we do......thats a random fact i just read in the trivial thread......or penguins are very social ..... what was the topic of this thread again....no mind....going back to trivial thread.....and visit the social penguins...:bunny::bunny::bunny::bunny:...deb
NoMoreJerks Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Generally speaking, the male approaches the female. Not necessarily because the female is special, but because the male is programmed to approach and pursue. It's not personal, it's just nature. Someone has to get the ball rolling, and nature has chosen the male to do it. The male can't check out the female to see if she's worth spending time with if he doesn't initiate contact. I notice that females are very lazy in contributing to the development of an interaction. Let's face it there are very few charming females, and they don't usually make men laugh or try. When a woman has a sense of humour it's generally understood that this means she gets and laughs at jokes and witty things, but more often than not it's males who say them. Males, knowing their role as approachers, spend many years learning the skills necessary to cold approach females and make an effort to sell themselves. As a result, they generally become somewhat skilled in interactions, as well as thick skinned. That's the active role. Females have the passive, receptive role. That's the way it is and it works. The penis (active) goes into the vagina (receptive) and likewise, interactions work in a similar way. The problem is that there's a lack of balance on the part of females. Males have not only gained skills in being active, they have also learned balance, for example, listening skills (passive), and to some extent, being in touch with their feminine side. Males I would say are generally pretty well balanced. But females don't seem to have developed that balance. Yang needs to have an element of yin to be balanced, and likewise, yin needs a bit of yang to be balanced. Males have done rather well in this, but females are far behind. For example, and this is one of the most common examples, when a female is approached, she usually assumes that by virtue of being female, she has done everything she needs to do to impress the male. She thinks that he is already 100% interested in her. As a result, she makes very little effort if any to impress the male. This is a major error of judgment. The extreme of this is when the female behaves in a high maintenance manner. There's also the "what have you done for me lately" mentality, which is common. Also, although there's a lot of emphasis on males being in touch with their feminine side, there's very little talk of females being in touch with their masculine side. And whereas there's a lot of advice on how to be a "real man", there's relatively very little talk of how to be a "real woman". As a result of the upbringing that a lot of females have, they don't make much of an effort. They've become excessively passive, sometimes to the point of entitlement. OK. Here's the thing: I just got back from the bar, and the ratio of men to women there was 10 to 1. I was one of the women at the bar, on a thursday night, 10:30pm. One guy talked to me, about my android tablet. I answered his question and didn't introduce myself, etc. I guess I should've, but I wasn't sure if it would be kinda too "forward" or assuming he was just using small talk like that to get me to talk with him and his buddy. The rest of the guys? Constant eye contact all night long, not even a single attempt at talking to me or coming up to me, or whatever it is that men do these days when they see a woman they are attracted to. To me, that indicates a loss of BALLS. Men need to seriously grow a pair. Women are at a disadvantage when it comes to approaching because people immediately assume she's a slut and wants to shag the guy. That is why I will never approach a guy. For men, it's more common for them to do it, and less stigma is attached to it. So, grow a pair and approach women. Stop bitching about it. You can't expect the women to fall at your feet just because you made the "effort" of maintaining eye contact. What the hell is wrong with the world? Maybe I belong in the 19th century.
AD1980 Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 OK. Here's the thing: I just got back from the bar, and the ratio of men to women there was 10 to 1. I was one of the women at the bar, on a thursday night, 10:30pm. One guy talked to me, about my android tablet. I answered his question and didn't introduce myself, etc. I guess I should've, but I wasn't sure if it would be kinda too "forward" or assuming he was just using small talk like that to get me to talk with him and his buddy. The rest of the guys? Constant eye contact all night long, not even a single attempt at talking to me or coming up to me, or whatever it is that men do these days when they see a woman they are attracted to. To me, that indicates a loss of BALLS. Men need to seriously grow a pair. Women are at a disadvantage when it comes to approaching because people immediately assume she's a slut and wants to shag the guy. That is why I will never approach a guy. For men, it's more common for them to do it, and less stigma is attached to it. So, grow a pair and approach women. Stop bitching about it. You can't expect the women to fall at your feet just because you made the "effort" of maintaining eye contact. What the hell is wrong with the world? Maybe I belong in the 19th century. No man i know would call a women a slut just because she approached them thast just a convenient excuse As for why some men dont approach for myself i dont because ive been rejected a lot and sometimes in nasty ways so i prefer not too keep going through it anymore since most women arent attracted to me anyway its a waste of time Ive had neough of seeing women roll their eyes as soon as im about to approach or search with their eyes for there friend to take them away from me as i talk to her because shes unattracted/bored
Woggle Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I don't know any man who would call a woman a slut for approaching. Let's just be honest and say that the women who are against approaching don't want to deal with rejection. That is what it boils down to. They sure have no problem breaking tons of other gender roles so why is this one so important? 1
Woggle Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 OK. Here's the thing: I just got back from the bar, and the ratio of men to women there was 10 to 1. I was one of the women at the bar, on a thursday night, 10:30pm. One guy talked to me, about my android tablet. I answered his question and didn't introduce myself, etc. I guess I should've, but I wasn't sure if it would be kinda too "forward" or assuming he was just using small talk like that to get me to talk with him and his buddy. The rest of the guys? Constant eye contact all night long, not even a single attempt at talking to me or coming up to me, or whatever it is that men do these days when they see a woman they are attracted to. To me, that indicates a loss of BALLS. Men need to seriously grow a pair. Women are at a disadvantage when it comes to approaching because people immediately assume she's a slut and wants to shag the guy. That is why I will never approach a guy. For men, it's more common for them to do it, and less stigma is attached to it. So, grow a pair and approach women. Stop bitching about it. You can't expect the women to fall at your feet just because you made the "effort" of maintaining eye contact. What the hell is wrong with the world? Maybe I belong in the 19th century. Men have been told over and over again that women want to be left alone in public so why get mad that they are actually listening?
NoMoreJerks Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I don't know any man who would call a woman a slut for approaching. Let's just be honest and say that the women who are against approaching don't want to deal with rejection. That is what it boils down to. They sure have no problem breaking tons of other gender roles so why is this one so important? I am pretty sure that if I approached 99% of those men, I would not be rejected. Every single one of them was drooling over me and kept looking at me all night long. But apparently they expected ME to go over to them and talk to them, even though it was mostly a male crowd and there was no way that a woman wouldv'e felt comfortable doing that in such a male-dominated crowd. If it were a more mixed crowd, maybe. I'm honestly not afraid of being rejected by someone I don't even know -- there's plenty of other men to approach if I were rejected, maybe not the same night (because no man might want to be "the second option"), but some other night... Besides, if I approach a guy in front of all the men, and I get rejected, it's still a ballsy move on my part, and that would probably earn me a lot of attraction points from the other guys. At any rate, that has never been an issue for me.
NoMoreJerks Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Men have been told over and over again that women want to be left alone in public so why get mad that they are actually listening? It's one thing to be left alone in public, it's quite another to be left alone in a pub. Also, huge difference between not harassing a woman (leaving her alone if she does not want to talk to you), and approaching a woman who is CLEARLY sending signals that she wants to talk to you. Like I said, you guys are whining over sour grapes. Grow a pair of balls and approach women who send you the right signals, instead of whining on an internet forum about how women don't approach you. Boohooohoooo.
NoMoreJerks Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 You claim men would not assume sluttiness, but, truth be told, men ARE judgmental. When they see a woman on her own at a bar, they assume the worst, not the best, thing about her. I was by myself at the bar tonight, and there is no way that I would've approached any of those men, especially that it was a completely male-dominated crowd around me. There were literally NO women at the bar I was sitting at.
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