barbossa Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Male lions find a mate stay with her util the offspring can fend for themselves than he splits....no fuss ... no mess Maybe other animals are like this too I don't know. think outside the box no bitterness, no revenge, no depression.... People have different situations of course.... but, can modern relationships last? i think people have the misconception of believing the grass is greener on the other side and hence they break up and look to upgrade... "game players" question: Knowing 50+ % of marriages fail & the one you thought ( certainly including me) the one was the one but turned out not to be the one Should a person have the realistic mindset that all relationships are at most last 1-5 years and not expect PS Danny devito just divorced after 29 years "I don't believe in this fairy tale of staying together for ever. Ten years with somebody is enough. In ten years, you can give a lot of love" Jim Carrey
Woggle Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 I am sure there are many women these days who would like a man to just give his sperm and get lost. 1
EasyHeart Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 I don't think you're right. Maybe you're thinking of tigers? Lions live in prides with a few males and a large harem of females who do all the work and feed the males. THAT'S the right way to do it!!!
snug.bunny Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Your lion analogy is incorrect. Research social structure of male lions...
todreaminblue Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Male lions find a mate stay with her util the offspring can fend for themselves than he splits....no fuss ... no mess Maybe other animals are like this too I don't know. think outside the box no bitterness, no revenge, no depression.... People have different situations of course.... but, can modern relationships last? i think people have the misconception of believing the grass is greener on the other side and hence they break up and look to upgrade... "game players" question: Knowing 50+ % of marriages fail & the one you thought ( certainly including me) the one was the one but turned out not to be the one Should a person have the realistic mindset that all relationships are at most last 1-5 years and not expect PS Danny devito just divorced after 29 years "I don't believe in this fairy tale of staying together for ever. Ten years with somebody is enough. In ten years, you can give a lot of love" Jim Carrey men and women were meant to be monogomous....male lions eat other lions babies too....doesnt mean the male human species should do that.....nor does it mean we should follow mating habits of animals........divorce and splitting up when the kids are grown.......is traumatic for kids of any age......rearing a family doesn't stop....families should stay together...in some cases this isn't possible or more damaging for the male to stay....but it should not be the norm for guys to walk away.......family should be in most cases in an ideal world, a life long commitment.....thats why marriage comes into the picture.....not just cohabitation such as lions.....they are not big on paperwork.....deb 1
EasyHeart Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 I do not want to eat any babies. Jes sayin'.
todreaminblue Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 I do not want to eat any babies. Jes sayin'. lol no not a good idea....neither is lion style sex....they have massive teeth and often bite each other while copulating....and those claws...its pretty violent and over pretty quickly(I am leaving this one alone)....dontcha just love national geo...not a way to mate i reckon..works for them i guess not fro humans...deb
xxoo Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 ....they have massive teeth and often bite each other while copulating.... That part sounds kinda hot But unlike lions, human grow attached to each other, build lives together, become mutually invested in the children.... How do you simply walk away? 3
kaylan Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Id say lions have it right for some people, while they have it incorrect for others. For some folks, they desire forever, no matter what troubles they face. For others, they accept when the relationship just isnt right and theyll move on....sometimes after the kids are grown up, and sometimes before that time. Id say many relationships are similar to the lion idea youve presented (though I dont think lions work that way...in reality its the male adults who leave on their own accord when theyre older to form their own pride. The parents dont leave the pride). Now regarding the lion idea youve presented, its not uncommon for many husbands and wives to stick out a marriage until the kids leave the nest. It happens all the time. They only stay for the sake of their kids despite not wanting to be with their spouse. This was the part of the demise with my ex. She hated how we fought because it reminded her of her parents. And her mom would say stupid crap like "when you and your brother are done with college...im done with your father" I dont know how serious her mom was or if she simply said this during fights, but my ex didnt like hearing that. In any case it really made her hate when we fought because she didnt want to end up like them. Lastly...the Jim Carrey quote is spot on. Nothing in life is garaunteed, especially not romantic love. People grow and change all the time. Sometimes you have to accept that bad things can happen. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst. And yes, a lot of good love can happen during a relationship even if it doesnt last forever. Humans are monogamists. Some of us are naturally inclined to serial monogamy, while others are more suited towards life long monogamy. In any case, most of us are still monogamous.
MrCastle Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 I think we're one of few species who attempt to mate for life. At this point in my life I don't believe in monogamy and think it's a pointless exercise. How many relationships truly last? Even the ones that last have problems. Jealousy, exes trying to break you up, difference in work schedules or other responsibilities so it's hard to see each other at ideal times, petty fights, serious fights, vulnerability (trusting them with stuff they can use against you at any time). what are the pros? emotional support? ehh, I'm good. Short term dating is the way to go for me; at least for now
Mallow Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Black vultures are monogamous and mate for life. A mate is replaced only after the death of one individual. Many people are capable and happy with being monogamous. 1
xxoo Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 what are the pros? emotional support? ehh, I'm good. Better sex with a partner I know and deeply trust a partner in life to share the journey a parenting partner NOT dating 1
MrCastle Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Better sex that's subjective. I could have mind blowing sex with a girl I met 5 hours before. with a partner I know and deeply trust[/Quote] fair enough a partner in life to share the journey[/Quote] unless your ideas of journeys differ; then you both have to sacrifice in certain situations to please the other as opposed to living the life you want. For example, what if you love where you live but your SO gets offered a great job on the other side of the country. Leave behind the life you have now and move with them? Somehow work out a LDR? etc a parenting partner[/Quote] you're assuming we all want children.
xxoo Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 that's subjective. I could have mind blowing sex with a girl I met 5 hours before. fair enough unless your ideas of journeys differ; then you both have to sacrifice in certain situations to please the other as opposed to living the life you want. For example, what if you love where you live but your SO gets offered a great job on the other side of the country. Leave behind the life you have now and move with them? Somehow work out a LDR? etc you're assuming we all want children. I was answering for myself, sharing the benefits I enjoy. YMMV.
MrCastle Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I was answering for myself, sharing the benefits I enjoy. YMMV. Ahh (10 char)
angie2443 Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Male lions find a mate stay with her util the offspring can fend for themselves than he splits....no fuss ... no mess Maybe other animals are like this too I don't know. think outside the box no bitterness, no revenge, no depression.... People have different situations of course.... but, can modern relationships last? i think people have the misconception of believing the grass is greener on the other side and hence they break up and look to upgrade... "game players" question: Knowing 50+ % of marriages fail & the one you thought ( certainly including me) the one was the one but turned out not to be the one Should a person have the realistic mindset that all relationships are at most last 1-5 years and not expect PS Danny devito just divorced after 29 years "I don't believe in this fairy tale of staying together for ever. Ten years with somebody is enough. In ten years, you can give a lot of love" Jim Carrey Male lions don't get to stay with a pride forever. When they get old and weak, they are chased away by younger, stronger lions who kill and eat the babies of the previous. This is done, by the way, so that the females in that pride will mate sooner. Nursing keeps them from bieng fertal for some time. Kill the babies, and the nursing stops. I'm not saying that people are meant to be together forever. Some are, some aren't. It just really bugs when people use these animal comparisons and leave out the gruesome stuff. Anyways, if you're fine with some stronger and/or younger male comming in and eating your youngest offspring so he can mate with your former mate sooner, then it makes sense that you think that lions have it right:) 2
threebyfate Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Male lions don't get to stay with a pride forever. When they get old and weak, they are chased away by younger, stronger lions who kill and eat the babies of the previous. This is done, by the way, so that the females in that pride will mate sooner. Nursing keeps them from bieng fertal for some time. Kill the babies, and the nursing stops. I'm not saying that people are meant to be together forever. Some are, some aren't. It just really bugs when people use these animal comparisons and leave out the gruesome stuff. Anyways, if you're fine with some stronger and/or younger male comming in and eating your youngest offspring so he can mate with your former mate sooner, then it makes sense that you think that lions have it right:)Lifespan of a male lion is that they remain for the first two years in their pride. Then, they get chased off, to wander nomadically with male siblings or other males they meet up with, for at least two more years (bromance!). Then, they need to find a pride with weakened males in order to take over their territories. If they're lucky and manage to acquire a pride, it lasts until they're somewhere between 8 - 10 years old, where during their 4 or so years of pride life, they continuously have to fight other lions, hyenas and every other predator under the sun to hold onto their food and territories. They only live for around 12 years, in the wild. Talk about a fruitless existence, just so they can mate for around 4 years.
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