spinaroonie Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 A buddy and I hit up a lounge in Toronto (Spice Route) this past weekend. Out of 100+ people, we spotted maybe three 2-sets of girls in the entire venue. The rest was comprised of big sets - either big mixed sets of guys and girls hanging out as friends, or big groups of 4+ girls, and a bunch of thirsty dudes on the prowl. Clearly, this is a common enough phenomenon for an internet meme to have gone viral: We wondered why there are so few 2-sets at bars and clubs nowadays, and attributed it to Facebook and online dating. Whereas single women in 5-10+ years ago went to "singles bars" actively looking to meet new men, today they're sitting at home in their PJs on Facebook and POF/OKC searching for Mr. Right/Mr. Right Now. Do "singles bars" even exist anymore? So girls go out in big groups to "party", get attention/validation/free drinks for the night, go home and discreetly booty text their FWB/**** buddy/ex BF, and get some good sex for the night. Why go home with a random creeper and look like a slut in front of all your friends when you've got **** on tap 24/7 via your smartphone? This is even more true for smartphone-addicted college girls with vast social circles. And this is also why tourists, cougars and "new to the city" women are easier to pull - they don't have access to vast social circles with **** on tap. All this leads to far fewer guys pulling from a pure cold approach today than in 2002. Not because guys today have ****ty game, but because the number of single women at bars and clubs actually looking to hook up has gone way down. And all due to the explosion of social networking, online dating and smartphones in the past decade, giving girls constant attention, validation and access to an infinite supply of ****. Thoughts? Particularly interested in hearing from older 30+ American/Canadian cats if they've also witnessed this change over the years.
stillafool Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 It could be because women are told bars and clubs are not the place to find a good man. Also I think most attractive women already have someone at home or waiting for them to come over after they go out. I think it is fun for women to get together in a large group, go out and drink with their friends and let off some steam. They aren't looking for a man. 1
NoMoreJerks Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) A buddy and I hit up a lounge in Toronto (Spice Route) this past weekend. Out of 100+ people, we spotted maybe three 2-sets of girls in the entire venue. The rest was comprised of big sets - either big mixed sets of guys and girls hanging out as friends, or big groups of 4+ girls, and a bunch of thirsty dudes on the prowl. Clearly, this is a common enough phenomenon for an internet meme to have gone viral: We wondered why there are so few 2-sets at bars and clubs nowadays, and attributed it to Facebook and online dating. Whereas single women in 5-10+ years ago went to "singles bars" actively looking to meet new men, today they're sitting at home in their PJs on Facebook and POF/OKC searching for Mr. Right/Mr. Right Now. Do "singles bars" even exist anymore? So girls go out in big groups to "party", get attention/validation/free drinks for the night, go home and discreetly booty text their FWB/**** buddy/ex BF, and get some good sex for the night. Why go home with a random creeper and look like a slut in front of all your friends when you've got **** on tap 24/7 via your smartphone? This is even more true for smartphone-addicted college girls with vast social circles. And this is also why tourists, cougars and "new to the city" women are easier to pull - they don't have access to vast social circles with **** on tap. All this leads to far fewer guys pulling from a pure cold approach today than in 2002. Not because guys today have ****ty game, but because the number of single women at bars and clubs actually looking to hook up has gone way down. And all due to the explosion of social networking, online dating and smartphones in the past decade, giving girls constant attention, validation and access to an infinite supply of ****. Thoughts? Particularly interested in hearing from older 30+ American/Canadian cats if they've also witnessed this change over the years. This is a big problem where I live (in Canada). I've noticed this lately, in almost all the bars I go to. Some more so than others. I think it also depends to some extent on the type of bar and the general atmosphere and layout of the bar. Some bars have begun to emphasize food almost just as much as drinks, and have more tables than seats at the bar, and most people would not go by themselves and sit at a table. The ones who go alone for hook-up will sit at the bar, and there are only a few spots that you can take. A lot of the time I go into a bar and the bar seats are all occupied, and I just leave. It's frustrating to see how this has become the norm: bars becoming just a hangout place for groups of friends. I have stopped going to bars with my friends, because there is no point to it; I'd rather go to a normal restaurant, rather than sit in the dark and try to have dinner. BTW, I am female, and I have noticed that there are also very few men who go out on their own or with another guy friend, for hook-up. Looks like it is the same. The ones who are out, are the ones that give me the creeps because I know that they're just looking for a ONS. Edited October 12, 2012 by NoMoreJerks
BS76 Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Yeah, the bar and club scene is taking it on the chin right now, in part because of the economic problems. I agree though that women without options/huge social networks are more friendly and easier to pull. Granted all this assumes you don't live in a college town or big city. Those large metro areas tend to be somewhat padded from the problems the rest of the country is facing. Then again, here's Ultrabar in DC rocking an 8:1 ratio last year: http://i.imgur.com/q3Yci.jpg from: http://www.rooshv.com/night-game-is-dead-roosh-syndrome
NoMoreJerks Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Actually, the bar I go to, I do see quite a few women who go out in pairs, but women going out in big groups is more prevalent, lately. I saw a group of women pull 2 guys in, and have them buy them drinks all night long. I bet the guys were in for a rude awakening when they realized they weren't getting any pussy. Or maybe they did score. Either way, it's disgusting. Compared to groups of women or pairs of women, these days I rarely see any guys who go out with their mates and want to socialize with other people at the bar. It seems like the problem is more with the male population, not so much with the female one, at least in my city.
crosswordfiend Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 I have noticed that there are also very few men who go out on their own or with another guy friend, for hook-up. Looks like it is the same. The ones who are out, are the ones that give me the creeps because I know that they're just looking for a ONS. I do a lot of solo dining at the bar and usually it is me and a bunch of people waiting for their table. I can go through three sets of "dinner companions" in the time it takes for me to order, eat my dinner and drink my beer. I would say that the women who come in for food on their own and getting take out.
Imajerk17 Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Is there a law that says you can't approach a girl if she is in a group of 3 or more? Hell you actually just might get extra points for being the guy who had the stones to approach her with her being in such a large group. 1
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