What this woman thinks about PUA

[grkBoy]

My viewpoint:

 

Women hate the notion that there are tricks and manipulations men can do to get their numbers or get them out on a date.

 

I'll see plenty of women berate the PUA thing, except when it's Mr. Tall, Dark, and Handsome tossing PUA tricks at her. Suddenly it's ok because it's someone she wants approaching her anyway. I also think many women still want to believe the handsome PUA believes she's special and he's not looking for sex but a LTR.

 

 

IN ALL HONESTY, I think PUA is a joke. A waste of money for the socially inept guys who show up to try it. I agree that the very short, fat, ugly, or horribly dressed male whom women find repulsive on sight won't fare any better with a bunch of "tricks" he paid money to learn.

 

To be brutally honest, if she thought you were unattractive when she saw you, then your push to try to get with her will only be deemed "creepy". And yes, a tall handsome male who does the exact same thing might end up in bed with her and she'll be going nuts to get him to commit to more than just sex.

 

Deal with it. Life isn't fair and won't ever be.

 

WHAT YOU GUYS SHOULD DO is take a better investment in yourselves. If you can't seem to hold a conversation with a woman, then make some friends so you can learn and practice to carry a convo. If you seemingly can't do anything right, then don't waste money on a PUA, find a DATING COACH who can mentor you.

 

On top of that, look at yourselves. Height and baldness can't really be fixed, but fat can be made lean or even into muscle. Bad clothing can be replaced with stylish clothing. There's so many things the men who constantly complain could do to fix it, but they never do.

[O'farrell]

nice

 

 

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[mario_C]

Wow, this thread blew up! Thanks, everyone.

I'm sorry, but I love this:

They don't want to know that the guy they are into downloaded his personality for $49.95 from the Internet, or bought his personality from a dude with a funny pseudonym for $2000.

 

Someone on another forum had a very good quote for that, in my opinion. Something like "Girls don't want to date the guy trying to be James Bond, they want to date James Bond"

In sum, women want what they want, and your learned behavior won't change that - in fact, it might make it worse. Which is bad news for us who are not on the Most Wanted list, but all hope is not lost.

I love to read commentary from women like her and the ones in here who seem to have their sex/love life together. It won't get you laid but when somehow, against all odds you do end up in a relationship, you will be a way better lover and companion, and that's a good thing.

Or not, what do I know?

[ascendotum]

So, would guys feel better if they were getting 50 emails a day from fat chicks saying "Hey baby wanna be my emotional buddy? We can sit up and talk about feelings all night!" Because I can certainly do that to all the guys in my area if it would advance the cause of equality.

 

Its not as extreme as this for women with 50 unattractive losers hinting about sex within the first email. For sure there are the sleazebags and the ugly and the way older, but there is the also the really good and the okay maybes. The women I know how do OLD, complain about all the losers, but they also manage to get dates & romance with hot guys. Lots of guys would be happy to quintuple their msg rate if was a just a case of take the bad with the good.

[Sith Apprentice]

Nerdy and awkward girls wouldn't date these guys. I call it the Meg-Neil effect. Besides some of those girls are hot.

 

Yep, the article never addresses hypergamy and treats online dating like some sort of consolation prize for men. The authors attitude is basically "You're not good enough for me or any other girl so you should go online to find a girlfriend."

 

Online dating won't work for these guys either, why? 80% of women online are only responding to the top 20% of good looking men according to a recent study. Dr. Helen: "As OK Cupid has demonstrated, women rate 80 percent of men below average."

 

PUA didn't cause these guys to be undesirable. These men being undesirable to women is what caused PUA.

 

She projects the reality of the nerdy girl on to the experience of the unattractive, nerdy guy. The unattractive, uncool girl can still get BFs and sex, where as the nerdy guy can't or can't get much of anything no matter how hard he tries.