Mme. Chaucer Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Actually, i have never went on one since the gals always bail or make excuses. But i have seen my friends date down, still i have one or two who date up because they are great guys. I see! So you neither date "in your league" or out of it. That pretty much covers everything. Here is some good advice for you: Get to know some women in real life and forget about all this crap you are always posting here. It's nonsense. Do you want to have women in your life, for real? Or do you want to be an Internet character? 2
Kamille Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Actually, i have never went on one since the gals always bail or make excuses. Gah! Don't the low-body fat ladies know you work out and therefore are entitled to date one of them? Or could it be... Is there possibly something wrong with how you approach dating altogether?
Author Necromancer Posted October 7, 2012 Author Posted October 7, 2012 I see! So you neither date "in your league" or out of it. That pretty much covers everything. Here is some good advice for you: Get to know some women in real life and forget about all this crap you are always posting here. It's nonsense. Do you want to have women in your life, for real? Or do you want to be an Internet character? I know enough of women irl, I want a girlfriend. I go out with friends almost every weekend. I am not the problem, the women are.
xdahliax Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I know enough of women irl, I want a girlfriend. I go out with friends almost every weekend. I am not the problem, the women are. Generally, when someone says that everyone else is the problem, that very person is the problem...
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I know enough of women irl, I want a girlfriend. I go out with friends almost every weekend. I am not the problem, the women are. Wow. That's sad. I guess you're doomed to be forever alone, then, no matter what your BMI is.
somedude81 Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Yup I can absolutely believe it. The thing is, on a site like that, no one really has a reason to lie. If anything, people will claim to weigh less than they do, not more. People have a preconceived notion on what weight X should look like and what women should weigh. But let's but it this way, if a woman in 5'8, 140 si likely going to be on the "thin" end for her height. 120 and 5'8 is really really thin. So someone weighing 5'8 and 170 pounds is going to be "medium sized." If she is someone who is a bit more muscular (i.e. has more muscle mass or a larger frame) that weight will be pretty "thin" at that height. But we have been taught to believe that any woman over 120 or 130 is "huge." No way. Girl I used to know was 5'8, 140 and she was not on the thin side. She wasn't fat but still could have lost 10 lbs to look better. Also, I'm 5'6, 160 (and could lose some weight). If a girl was 170 and only two inches taller than me, then she's overweight. Not medium sized.
Kamille Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Wow. That's sad. I guess you're doomed to be forever alone, then, no matter what your BMI is. Pass the tissues over here please. My heart breaks for Necromancer's plight. Must be hard to be such a virtuous, generous, understanding soul constantly confronted to women who don't know how leagues work and that Necro deserves to date someone who is physically his equal in BMI. 2
GirlontheLam Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) No way. Girl I used to know was 5'8, 140 and she was not on the thin side. She wasn't fat but still could have lost 10 lbs to look better. Also, I'm 5'6, 160 (and could lose some weight). If a girl was 170 and only two inches taller than me, then she's overweight. Not medium sized. I think she probably weighed more and/or had a surprisingly high body fat ratio. Here are some examples: 5'8 140: Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like And here are the 5'8 170s: Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like And just for fun: 5'8 200 Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Most women don't admit to men (or many other women) that they weigh more than 140. Because people think it is "huge." Even is they are tall. I remember when Gabby Reece was admitted as weighing like 180 and people were "shocked!" http://www.hiluxury.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/jun-jul/gabrielle_reece_01.jpg Edited October 7, 2012 by GirlontheLam
SmileFace Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 No way. Girl I used to know was 5'8, 140 and she was not on the thin side. She wasn't fat but still could have lost 10 lbs to look better. Also, I'm 5'6, 160 (and could lose some weight). If a girl was 170 and only two inches taller than me, then she's overweight. Not medium sized. Well there goes my chance... 2
Kamille Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Well there goes my chance... boohoohoo. Need more tissues. First, by the fault of all women, there is a women out there who will be forever deprived of Necromancer's outstanding capacity to love. Now, I find out SD is out of SF's league. Will the tragedies never end??? *sniffle* :( 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 boohoohoo. Need more tissues. First, by the fault of all women, there is a women out there who will be forever deprived of Necromancer's outstanding capacity to love. Now, I find out SD is out of SF's league. Will the tragedies never end??? *sniffle* :( Well, I caution you to avoid the recollection of when SD rejected Eleanor Hurting as a potential date because of an insufficient bra size … Don't cry! 1
Kamille Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 On another note. Am 5'8, 145, size 6-8. People have argued with me that I could not possibly be 145. The guys I dated assumed I was 125-130. I would tell them I was 145. (My weight really doesn't bother me.) They would come back, months later and ask me : "So, how much do you weigh? About 125 right?" Either they were trying to be "politically correct" (is possible) or, more likely, men have no clue when it comes to women's weight. I think there is this myth out there that on average women weigh 125 pounds, so when a woman has an average built, people assume she weighs 125, regardless of height. 1
Kamille Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Well, I caution you to avoid the recollection of when SD rejected Eleanor Hurting as a potential date because of an insufficient bra size … Don't cry! :eek: waaaahahaaa gasp sniffle boohooooo. Snort. baahahaa. hiccup. Why is dating so hard????
somedude81 Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I think she probably weighed more and/or had a surprisingly high body fat ratio. Here are some examples: 5'8 140: Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like There is no way the first couple of girls are 140/5'8, they seem really skinny. Of course, the easiest answer is that she just lied to me, and was actually heavier, thus making my frame of reference inaccurate. And here are the 5'8 170s: Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like A lot of those girls are overweight. They're using flattering clothes and/or angles to try and hide. Most women don't admit to men (or many other women) that they weigh more than 140. Because people think it is "huge." Even is they are tall. Yeah that does make sense. She also used to be much heavier and was most likely still self-conscious about her weight. Well there goes my chance... I like apples.
Eternal Sunshine Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 On another note. Am 5'8, 145, size 6-8. People have argued with me that I could not possibly be 145. The guys I dated assumed I was 125-130. I would tell them I was 145. (My weight really doesn't bother me.) They would come back, months later and ask me : "So, how much do you weigh? About 125 right?" Either they were trying to be "politically correct" (is possible) or, more likely, men have no clue when it comes to women's weight. I think there is this myth out there that on average women weigh 125 pounds, so when a woman has an average built, people assume she weighs 125, regardless of height. Exactly Kamille. I am also 5'8" and have the same experience. Even body builders would lift me up and then guess in 120-130 range. Perhaps they were trying to be nice, but they seemed genuinely puzzled when I corrected them. The poster who posted that "what real women look like" at 5'8" - that's pretty much spot on .
GirlontheLam Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 There is no way the first couple of girls are 140/5'8, they seem really skinny. Yeah that does make sense. She also used to be much heavier and was most likely still self-conscious about her weight. I have a slightly different frame of reference. My mom is 5'6.5 (and pear shaped, smaller frame). When she weighed 135 she was skinny! As she got older and settled in in middle age to around 145-150 which is slim on her (~ size 6/8, not much to spare). When she was even younger (i.e. before kids) she weighed like 120-125. On her this meant she had about a 20 inch waist and she was super skinny. For reference, those old school hollywood starlets were in the 22-24 range. See why I think 140 on 5'8 is pretty skinny. I've got my mom's weight, and the other women in her family as a frame of reference. I realize of course there are other women who would need to weigh 20 pounds and have similar measurements. And there are other women that weigh 20 pounds more. So for me, I think measurements and body composition are just a lot more accurate. The scale can lie. (And let's not get started on the people that are "healthy" in the key numbers and metrics at very different weights.)
SmileFace Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I like apples. Too bad I am more of an hour glass...teehee 2
oaks Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 If you were any kind of intellegent youd never say your first couple of sentences in that post. I'm sure there are ways to agree to disagree without resorting to ad homimem attacks. I'd like to say it's been nice debating this with you.
iris219 Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I think she probably weighed more and/or had a surprisingly high body fat ratio. Here are some examples: 5'8 140: Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like Browse Photos - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like These women look fine, but they would be considered "average" not thin (several of them were quite thick, actually). Miranda Kerr is thin. These girls don't look bad, but I don't see how 140 at 5'8" could possibly be thin on anyone. It's simply average, which is fine. Some people don't aspire to be model thin, nor would their body types allow it.
oaks Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 To people considering themselves to be above the league of larger people on the basis of health, here's an interesting viewpoint... People can be fat yet fit, research suggests 2
Charlie Harper Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I think its all based on insecurities, you think you don't date or have a significant other, or lover and you think its because you are fat, so you hit the gym and become a super fit with a six-pack and guess what you are still the same douche with a better BMI ratio, but you are still insecure, so what is next...you blame women (or men). If you are ugly and a total douche no amount of "great body" will make you a hit with potential dates. Money on the other hands makes wonders.
oaks Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I see it like this: There are people you fancy, and people you don't. There are people who fancy you, and people who don't. The trick is finding people in the first group who are also in the third group. That's it. Having thought I'd made the definitive post on this topic ( ) I've had an additional idea: If you believe in leagues, and you see an attractive person and decide that he or she is "out of your league" and use this as the reason you don't approach him or her or dismiss an approach from him or her ... then you are foolish. 3
GoodOnPaper Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 If you believe in leagues, and you see an attractive person and decide that he or she is "out of your league" and use this as the reason you don't approach him or her or dismiss an approach from him or her ... then you are foolish. Really? I did this all the time -- I just never liked the idea of being one of a thousand guys trying to compete for a girl's attention. I always wanted a connection to be more unique, more personal. Of course, when you are being over-analytical like this, you're almost always in a cold-calling situation -- that's just no fun in general. If you can get to know a woman under less-pressured situations before becoming conscious of her league, there is a chance of transcending all of this -- of course, then there are friendzone issues to deal with . . .
xdahliax Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 A PC comment, if there ever was one. That is not a PC comment, as it relates to me. Being politically correct is when you avoid being subversive on views that affect others.
SmileFace Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 That is not a PC comment, as it relates to me. Being politically correct is when you avoid being subversive on views that affect others. So your boyfriend/guy you are dating, is he not at all attracted to you physically?
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