irc333 Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 You can make women like you. You just can't do it by bringing flowers / writing songs when you're getting nothing of value reciprocated. You have to behave a certain way. A manly way I prefer the way that Jim did it with Pam in "The Office". I prefer that kind of relationship, took him awhile though, though she was engaged.
irc333 Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Right, as if there there was a right way or wrong way of accomplishing this with everyone that is different. This is where it starts to sound like "Motivational Speaker" dialogue. lol That's the same thing as telling somebody, "You don't like being poor? Then learn how to get rich." Thanks Captain Obvious. I would love to learn how to woo women and make them want me. I don't have a fu*king clue how to even start. No matter what I do, I can't get anybody to like me. And I'm getting tired of pointless rejections.
Els Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I don't want to get laid. In fact if I had my way I wouldn't have sex at all. I'm only interested in companionship. Go to a ballgame, movies, for a bike ride, etc. Unfortunately, no woman wants to spend any longer than 3 minutes around me. I'm no longer "bitter" about it. I just accept it as fact. I was just disagreeing with you upbeat view of things. I genuinely feel for you. Why do you feel this is the case, if you could hazard a guess? I think everyone should be able to at least have companions, if nothing else. Unless by 'no woman', you mean 'no woman who falls within my fixed set of requirements, nothing else counts' like the other posters here, in which case I retract my statement.
Emilia Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I would like to hear it from the female posters here too... Jobaba, you're a ****ing p@ssy. The reason, or at least a probable reason guys like you SD81, AD1980 get none is because you're wusses who think like women, crying about heartbreak and rejection. WAAAH, WAAAH, WAAAH! Be a man, take your rejections on the chin and go up to the next woman. Women don't want a p@ssy, they already have one. Be a f@cking man! So ... go ahead and say it if you're thinking it... It's not that simple. I think it's more about your having passive aggressive tendencies and not coming across genuine than anything else. I think people inherently trust those that are straight up and direct more than those that are not. This applies to many aspects of life. I think women in western societies are more used to direct men. I'm not sure you come across direct/no-nonsense enough. Perhaps it's culturally how you were brought up.
grkBoy Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I'd simply suggest living your life for you. Stop looking at a girlfriend or a woman in bed as the source for your self-esteem or validation of anything. I've learned through experience that when you take away the inner pressure to "find someone" and work to live a full happy life, then you'll find emotional, mental, and spiritual balance. Right now I see too many men and women feverously working on finding a significant other. Working? When was it supposed to be work? And why? Most of them seemingly think more about a person on their arm, in their bed, at the altar, etc...more than who this person is. It's obvious many are clamoring for a SO simply to validate themselves. 4
AD1980 Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I'd simply suggest living your life for you. Stop looking at a girlfriend or a woman in bed as the source for your self-esteem or validation of anything. I've learned through experience that when you take away the inner pressure to "find someone" and work to live a full happy life, then you'll find emotional, mental, and spiritual balance. Right now I see too many men and women feverously working on finding a significant other. Working? When was it supposed to be work? And why? Most of them seemingly think more about a person on their arm, in their bed, at the altar, etc...more than who this person is. It's obvious many are clamoring for a SO simply to validate themselves. I agree with that totally..as a guy whos 32 and never had a women the pain is really more about an ego blow then loneliness.. I dont understand people who cant be alone or think their life is horrible thats a alot of pressure to put on another person if they do actually get into a relationship..
somedude81 Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I dont understand people who cant be alone or think their life is horrible thats a alot of pressure to put on another person if they do actually get into a relationship.. How is it putting any pressure at all on somebody?
AD1980 Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 How is it putting any pressure at all on somebody? that your happiness and well being depends on being with that person or anyone 1
GoodOnPaper Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I dont understand people who cant be alone or think their life is horrible thats a alot of pressure to put on another person if they do actually get into a relationship.. If a person's smart, he's not going to flat-out tell his gf that he really needs the relationship for validation. Instead it will probably just show as the guy being a little extra "serious" about dating/relationships -- I was always accused of this (and rightly so) when I was young.
ThaWholigan Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 If a person's smart, he's not going to flat-out tell his gf that he really needs the relationship for validation. Instead it will probably just show as the guy being a little extra "serious" about dating/relationships -- I was always accused of this (and rightly so) when I was young. Should take a gander over at the body language thread. It's what you're not saying.....
fortyninethousand322 Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I genuinely feel for you. Why do you feel this is the case, if you could hazard a guess? I think everyone should be able to at least have companions, if nothing else. Unless by 'no woman', you mean 'no woman who falls within my fixed set of requirements, nothing else counts' like the other posters here, in which case I retract my statement. "No women" really means "no women". One time I was able to get a woman to go to Dave and Busters with me and some of my friends (some of them had brought their girlfriends and some of their girlfriends' friends; she wasn't going to be the only girl there) but only after a lot of convincing and cajoling, reassuring her that she'd have a good time. It felt like I was tricking her to go with me. It didn't feel very good, but I was at a particularly low point and just wanted some female company (and to be honest I was still in love with the girl, despite her continued resistance to my overtures). Otherwise, anytime I ask someone on a date or just ask a woman to hang out (either one on one or as part of a group) I get lukewarm commitments (which are later dropped) or excuses as to why they can't go. Why is this the case? I don't know. I get the feeling that women don't feel "at ease" around me. I'm not always good at reading interest vs disinterest, but I'm usually good at picking up emotions (like if someone is annoyed or happy or mad or ready to laugh, etc.). And 99% of the time when I'm around a woman I never get the feeling that they're relaxed or genuine pleased to be around me. Maybe I'm not completely right about this, but I have been right often enough for it to confirm my suspicions. It sucks, but there's not really anything I can do about it. I suspect it's damaged my psyche enough to make me somewhat damaged goods in that regard.
somedude81 Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 that your happiness and well being depends on being with that person or anyone That doesn't make any sense. How would she know? If a person's smart, he's not going to flat-out tell his gf that he really needs the relationship for validation. Instead it will probably just show as the guy being a little extra "serious" about dating/relationships -- I was always accused of this (and rightly so) when I was young. Extra serious? For some reason, I think I'll be fine and she won't feel any extra pressure or whatever.
MilitantPacifist Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Ending life is stupid. If your miserably, get revenge on those who caused it. Find the problem and eliminate it. If necessary, gain power using machiavellian tactics and ruthlessly eliminate those in your way. Become feared instead of loved and dont accept any more rejections. Make the girl an offer she cannot refuse. However, in order to do this, you must get rid of the concept of good and evil. They are nothing but opinions anyway. I find your theory intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter : )
Sun Devil Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 I am trying to avoid being bitter, but there are some posts that state that I will be unable to get a girl due to factors oout of my control. I do not want to go through life without having a girl by my side. besides, when my parents die of old age, I will have no family left. Life without a family is worthless
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