Men thinking about women/Male sexuality

[yongyong]

What kind of dirty whore you meet at the bar, she will say she is a 'lady' and she is not like 'that'. I understand their behavior though. They are programmed or socially forced to act that way In Public.

 

But how about on internet? who cares if a girl says she gets horny sometimes and thinking about banging the guy next door? actually guys will appreciate her honesty. Majority of women will lie about their sexual desire though......

 

 

 

[quote=MrCastle;4288001

Anywho, in regards to the thread topic, I think both genders should embrace their sexuality. Girls who think guys are gross for thinking about sex or talking about sex are by my estimations, prudes, and I don't deal with prudes. I do think there is an acceptable way to express your sexuality and a way that comes across as crude or inappropriate, and you have to know where that boundary is, but I do not believe in sexual repression. You have to be free.

[Badsingularity]

I agree that there is a time and place for expressing your sexual thoughts.

 

Although I may not like that my husband is sexually attracted to women other than me, I can accept it. (acting on it would be a different story).

 

I think women should accept men's sexuality instead of trying to change it, contain it or minimize it. I believe that expecting men to change their thought process will only create frustration and disappointment for women. Regardless of how we feel about those thoughts, saying we don't like it won't prompt men to change.

 

I think some women look at this issue in a very black & white manner, such as: "If he looks at another girl, he's not attracted to me" or "I must not be what he wants if he notices other women". I think it's very diffcult for some women to understand that men can think 1000s of women are hot, but still love their partner and the way that she looks, too. Simutaneously.

 

Women have the right to feel whatever they feel about their partners thoughts, though. If him appreciating other women makes them feel insecure or upset, they should be able to express that. But they should also be open to the idea that maybe they are drawing the wrong conclusions about this. I think they should consider that JUST MAYBE him looking at other women has nothing to do with the level of his attraction for them, that his thoughts about other women do not negate his feelings for his woman, and not be threatened by it.

 

 

Quiet Storm. I think it is no coincidence that women like you who have a good understanding of how men work and accept them for who they are also usually in a very happy and satisfying relationship with a man.

 

Men let their walls down with women like this.

 

They don't have to always hide a part of themselves.

[todreaminblue]

I fight mine everyday......i have a high sex drive honestly....if i really want to be honest which i dont........because with that high sex drive comes guilt.....that is why i don't act on it.I need to be in a loving relationship with trust for me to express myself and enjoy sex someone i am attracted to physically and emotionally.My high sex drive does not equal one night stands..or would i ever be satisfied in a relationship that contained more than my partner...my sex drive is associated with me needing to loved and for the relationship to be monogamous....I can feel safe enough to express myself sexually....I dont blame anyone for the way i think or feel and i have abstained from sex because I dont want to express myself with just anyone....i dont think it is bad i choose to fight my sexual desire.I think it is meant to be fought unless it is right to share with just one or I would feel good about expressing it with many...i just dont..deb

[kaylan]

I think that as long as it does not infringe upon anyone elses rights or safety, that all adults should embrace their raw and natural sexuality. This goes for men, and especially women...seeing how women, in my opinion and experience, tend to repress their sexual desires more so than men, and tend to have more hang ups than men.

[ascendotum]

I agree that women's sexuality is just as powerful if not more, but in general is probably expressed and aroused slightly differently. Where I disagree is that it is all tied up in what the man looks like. Certainly there are women who are primarily turned on by physical attributes - there are plenty of them. But with a lot of other women, particularly ones that I have met over the years, there is a lot more that it takes to ignite that woman - and a good looking guy with no game won't get the play .

 

a good looking guy with no game won't get the play.

sorry W, but not were I live. Good looking guys even if they are serious type or a little clueless get noticed and get hit on, and they get action. They may miss out of the top shelf babes, who expect looks & sauve or they will blow opportunities, but no way do they get ignored by women or struggle. At some of the coys I have worked at, the women are really keen to set such guys up with their single gfs. (I guess it depends on your def. of play). With Average to slightly above looking guys with no game they can go a fair while between play.

 

Women are more proactive these days but its much more so when it comes to a good looking guys in my observations.

I think it is very much tied up with a man's looks...not just the face but physique should be included in '. Its not all about looks, though but its the big factor that will get the guy up as a immediate contender in her mind. the post you replied to for SC80 and his experiment. I've seen a number of times over the years, where the response from the woman has been 180 deg, or its been like the guys were talking about 2 totally different women based on how she behaved with them. Not all women have selective 'sexual' personality based on the looks of the guy, but a big chunk do (as do many guys). It hit home with me, when I had an illness and became skinny, engaging in conversation with women became a lot harder, and a lot got indigent/prudish when I got flirty or made sexual jokes. The result was I suppressed that side of myself, and fell into the safe nice not threatening nice guy persona, which has women being nice to you, but gets you squat when it comes to fun.

 

W, at the coys I have worked at the guys reported for sexual harassment were not good looking men. (also fat, skinny, short), and in a couple of cases I know other good looking guys there sleazed on to these women or told filthy jokes to them. The guys looks influenced a different interpretation/response by the women of the same behaviour. Also at coys I worked at, the good looking playas were more respected by the women there (as long as they kept convos of weekend hijinx female friendly), which goes against the double standard complaint by women on LS of such men.

Likewise, with my friends...split them in 2 groups based on looks and the good looking guys have far more stories of impromptu sex from women they just met or gfs who were totally sub or up for 3somes or up for home porn.

Look I am not pretending guys are not big on looks when it comes to sex appeal, but so are women but maybe not quite to the same extent (with other attributes thrown in the mix like humour), but especially when they are younger or not overweight or at the horny stages/times in their life.

[kaylan]

^Much truth in everything he said.

[SteveC80]

a good looking guy with no game won't get the play.

 

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Look I am not pretending guys are not big on looks when it comes to sex appeal, but so are women but maybe not quite to the same extent (with other attributes thrown in the mix like humour), their life.

 

 

I think Women are to the same extent as Men when it comes to looks,ive seen women rip aaprt dudes looks for the smallest things and ive seen firsthand how creepy they get around guys they are attracted to and im talking from strangers to good friends wives

[yongyong]

Whether you look better in appearance than her or not, you need to make her feel inferior for her to bang you. Women will not sleep with a man if she feels superior than him or equal to him. You need to dominate her emotionally. When women says

'I care about the personality' that's what they are referring too.

 

 

 

 

 

I think Women are to the same extent as Men when it comes to looks,ive seen women rip aaprt dudes looks for the smallest things and ive seen firsthand how creepy they get around guys they are attracted to and im talking from strangers to good friends wives

[kaylan]

^Such BS. I know soooo many examples of this being false, from my own personal life to many other peoples lives as well. No one enjoys being made to feel inferior and looked down upon. The guys I know personally, with the most success with women, are the good looking dudes who know how to relate to a girl and make her feel like theyre on the same level.

 

PS - Women saying they care about personality means shed like to date someone with more than just looks. Because theres plenty of good looking dudes out there trying to get laid, and they are a dime a dozen. A great personality isnt.

[SteveC80]

Whether you look better in appearance than her or not, you need to make her feel inferior for her to bang you. Women will not sleep with a man if she feels superior than him or equal to him. You need to dominate her emotionally. When women says

'I care about the personality' that's what they are referring too.

 

Funny you say that,my friends wife always thought i was arrogant called me mr alpha male in a sarcastic demeaning way

 

Then we ended up renting a sumemr house all my friends and the last night of the trip she started playing footsie with me and touching me saying how attractive i was and that she finds the fact that im the leader of the group a turn on and how masculine and fertile i seemed

 

The things that turn part of a women off also turn them on subconsciously [arrogance narcisism domination]

[kaylan]

^Are you seriously going to paint all women with the same brush because of one sleazy womens actions towards her husbands friend? Get real dude.

[todreaminblue]

a good looking guy with no game won't get the play.

sorry W, but not were I live. Good looking guys even if they are serious type or a little clueless get noticed and get hit on, and they get action. They may miss out of the top shelf babes, who expect looks & sauve or they will blow opportunities, but no way do they get ignored by women or struggle. At some of the coys I have worked at, the women are really keen to set such guys up with their single gfs. (I guess it depends on your def. of play). With Average to slightly above looking guys with no game they can go a fair while between play.

 

Women are more proactive these days but its much more so when it comes to a good looking guys in my observations.

I think it is very much tied up with a man's looks...not just the face but physique should be included in '. Its not all about looks, though but its the big factor that will get the guy up as a immediate contender in her mind. the post you replied to for SC80 and his experiment. I've seen a number of times over the years, where the response from the woman has been 180 deg, or its been like the guys were talking about 2 totally different women based on how she behaved with them. Not all women have selective 'sexual' personality based on the looks of the guy, but a big chunk do (as do many guys). It hit home with me, when I had an illness and became skinny, engaging in conversation with women became a lot harder, and a lot got indigent/prudish when I got flirty or made sexual jokes. The result was I suppressed that side of myself, and fell into the safe nice not threatening nice guy persona, which has women being nice to you, but gets you squat when it comes to fun.

 

W, at the coys I have worked at the guys reported for sexual harassment were not good looking men. (also fat, skinny, short), and in a couple of cases I know other good looking guys there sleazed on to these women or told filthy jokes to them. The guys looks influenced a different interpretation/response by the women of the same behaviour. Also at coys I worked at, the good looking playas were more respected by the women there (as long as they kept convos of weekend hijinx female friendly), which goes against the double standard complaint by women on LS of such men.

Likewise, with my friends...split them in 2 groups based on looks and the good looking guys have far more stories of impromptu sex from women they just met or gfs who were totally sub or up for 3somes or up for home porn.

Look I am not pretending guys are not big on looks when it comes to sex appeal, but so are women but maybe not quite to the same extent (with other attributes thrown in the mix like humour), but especially when they are younger or not overweight or at the horny stages/times in their life.

 

 

There are too many expectations on the game as you put it....when everybody has different ideals and rules to this game....there is no game....just a lot of people thinking they can adjust the rules and ideals to suit them.....attraction, love sex, all come hand in hand you have no idea what you are doing you can read all the manuals in the world and they wont pertain to your situation at hand....you have to learn while you are in a relationship not whiel out of one......you have to learn that there i ssoemone out there and hwo you get them may not be the way you are used to or expected to....the game thing ....old........we should get with the times..and forget the game and who or who doesnt have it.....and just let things happen....why do we put so much pressure on ourselves to conform when not in a relationship, like its bad like we will never have it.....that we dont have game enough that goes for guys and girls....people should be honest with how they feel not play games......i was and i lost.....did i lose the game....no i didnt lose.....i wasnt playing a game...i didnt get an answer i needed to hear...

 

 

but i got an answer...does it mean i will not ask again....i don't think i will....but i am not denying that i still have feelings and that things might not change...life and love is all about change.......who knows.....but seeing i wasn't playing a game in the first place....im not after a medal...i wanted a heart.........i needed that heart...it is taken.....

 

the future specifically mine in this case is known only to god above and these feelings that are good that i have the feelings o flvoe, he put them there.......god is love.......so since i am not playing any game.....i am patient....if it is meant to be it will happen.......if not....i can still smile because i have lost no game.......i dont play them..love isnt a game...deb

[SteveC80]

^Such BS. I know soooo many examples of this being false, from my own personal life to many other peoples lives as well. No one enjoys being made to feel inferior and looked down upon. The guys I know personally, with the most success with women, are the good looking dudes who know how to relate to a girl and make her feel like theyre on the same level.

 

PS - Women saying they care about personality means shed like to date someone with more than just looks. Because theres plenty of good looking dudes out there trying to get laid, and they are a dime a dozen. A great personality isnt.

 

Thats also partly true,my friends wife who hated me at first and then tried to hit on me started liking me and being turned on when i made her laugh so if a womens physically attracted to you and you make her laugh married or not shes gonna want to get in your pants

 

Though i also think being the leader or alpha of your social circle also turns them on

[kaylan]

Thats also partly true,my friends wife who hated me at first and then tried to hit on me started liking me and being turned on when i made her laugh so if a womens physically attracted to you and you make her laugh married or not shes gonna want to get in your pants

 

Though i also think being the leader or alpha of your social circle also turns them on

Anyone will tell you she isnt a well adjusted or decent person if shes going to hit on her husbands friend. And anyone will tell you that this low class woman cannot speak for all women in terms of their behavior.

 

Trust me...she never hated you at first...and you making her laugh didnt all of a sudden make her attracted to you. Trust me, she found you physically appealing at first...and put on a show in front of everyone else, only to show her true colors once you two were alone.

 

Dont be so naive. She knows the game she was playing and the facade she was putting on.

 

PS - A decent woman who loves her man and is attracted to her husband, wont want to, nor try, to get into another guys pants. Low quality women do that...not loyal high quality women.

[SteveC80]

Anyone will tell you she isnt a well adjusted or decent person if shes going to hit on her husbands friend. And anyone will tell you that this low class woman cannot speak for all women in terms of their behavior.

 

Trust me...she never hated you at first...and you making her laugh didnt all of a sudden make her attracted to you. Trust me, she found you physically appealing at first...and put on a show in front of everyone else, only to show her true colors once you two were alone.

 

Dont be so naive. She knows the game she was playing and the facade she was putting on.

 

PS - A decent woman who loves her man and is attracted to her husband, wont want to, nor try, to get into another guys pants. Low quality women do that...not loyal high quality women.

 

We werent alone it was a big party and she was cuddling with me on a couch other people were in the room

 

I think most women have that tendency especially in her position drunk and ovulating

[kaylan]

We werent alone it was a big party and she was cuddling with me on a couch other people were in the room

 

I think most women have that tendency especially in her position drunk and ovulating

Again...low quality women, who arent committed to and/or not attracted to their man will do this.

 

High quality and loyal women will not.

 

Her being drunk goes with my point about her facade being on. People lower than fake masks when they drink. However, underneath that mask, some folks are disrespectful losers like your friends wife.

 

I would have divorced a chick for BS like that. And would not be friends with a dude who would be all up on my woman. If your friend was ok with all of that, then he would be a big scrub in my view.

[ThaWholigan]

a good looking guy with no game won't get the play.

sorry W, but not were I live. Good looking guys even if they are serious type or a little clueless get noticed and get hit on, and they get action. They may miss out of the top shelf babes, who expect looks & sauve or they will blow opportunities, but no way do they get ignored by women or struggle. At some of the coys I have worked at, the women are really keen to set such guys up with their single gfs. (I guess it depends on your def. of play). With Average to slightly above looking guys with no game they can go a fair while between play.

 

Women are more proactive these days but its much more so when it comes to a good looking guys in my observations.

I think it is very much tied up with a man's looks...not just the face but physique should be included in '. Its not all about looks, though but its the big factor that will get the guy up as a immediate contender in her mind. the post you replied to for SC80 and his experiment. I've seen a number of times over the years, where the response from the woman has been 180 deg, or its been like the guys were talking about 2 totally different women based on how she behaved with them. Not all women have selective 'sexual' personality based on the looks of the guy, but a big chunk do (as do many guys). It hit home with me, when I had an illness and became skinny, engaging in conversation with women became a lot harder, and a lot got indigent/prudish when I got flirty or made sexual jokes. The result was I suppressed that side of myself, and fell into the safe nice not threatening nice guy persona, which has women being nice to you, but gets you squat when it comes to fun.

 

W, at the coys I have worked at the guys reported for sexual harassment were not good looking men. (also fat, skinny, short), and in a couple of cases I know other good looking guys there sleazed on to these women or told filthy jokes to them. The guys looks influenced a different interpretation/response by the women of the same behaviour. Also at coys I worked at, the good looking playas were more respected by the women there (as long as they kept convos of weekend hijinx female friendly), which goes against the double standard complaint by women on LS of such men.

Likewise, with my friends...split them in 2 groups based on looks and the good looking guys have far more stories of impromptu sex from women they just met or gfs who were totally sub or up for 3somes or up for home porn.

Look I am not pretending guys are not big on looks when it comes to sex appeal, but so are women but maybe not quite to the same extent (with other attributes thrown in the mix like humour), but especially when they are younger or not overweight or at the horny stages/times in their life.

 

Yeah, I did get taken out of context a little - I think that there are a lot of women who will date a good looking man regardless of his internal characteristics, that much I would be foolish to deny .

 

Perhaps an error in verbal reasoning, I was referring to the women who are not easily swayed by a good looking man - a lot of whom I have met and seen a lot of dudes who got a lot of other girls fail miserably to get. Not all of these women were even conventional hotties . They aren't terribly common, but they certainly aren't rare, given I have met a lot of them.

 

Perhaps it's telling that a lot of the guys I've met who have had great sexual success haven't all been super good looking, a lot of them were pretty average. A couple were allegedly well endowed which gave them appeal, but most of the others were a varied sort in terms of physical appearance.

 

Good looking dudes always did well - but even they got rejected, especially if they had weak game. Doesn't mean they didn't do well with women, but with a certain demographic of women who weren't interested in the man's looks they would fail.

 

I think Women are to the same extent as Men when it comes to looks,ive seen women rip aaprt dudes looks for the smallest things and ive seen firsthand how creepy they get around guys they are attracted to and im talking from strangers to good friends wives

 

I've seen those things too, they've even happened to me. I've been blasted for my trainers, been told I was so ugly "I needed to be taxed to leave my house", even for not smiling enough . At which point I started to laugh at her, then she decided that was "better because I had a nice smile". Girls are weird sometimes .

 

I think the reason why some women are creepy around guys they like is because they themselves have weak game . Either way, I can't say it's a regular occurrence in my experiences, but it does happen a lot because I hear about it.

 

Funny you say that,my friends wife always thought i was arrogant called me mr alpha male in a sarcastic demeaning way

 

Then we ended up renting a sumemr house all my friends and the last night of the trip she started playing footsie with me and touching me saying how attractive i was and that she finds the fact that im the leader of the group a turn on and how masculine and fertile i seemed

 

The things that turn part of a women off also turn them on subconsciously [arrogance narcisism domination]

 

She was always attracted to you - don't let a woman fool you .

 

I think your friends married some wack wives to be honest, it's more like typical bitch behavior than typical woman behavior.

 

Whether you look better in appearance than her or not, you need to make her feel inferior for her to bang you. Women will not sleep with a man if she feels superior than him or equal to him. You need to dominate her emotionally. When women says

'I care about the personality' that's what they are referring too.

 

You have it a little bit wrong.

 

Being a dominant man can be attractive to a woman - but not in the way you describe. Dominance doesn't necessitate making a woman inferior to you. She has to see some kind of personal power in you, yes. But not to be made to feel inferior .

 

Also, people really need to define what they mean when they say they care about personality. What kind of personality are you interested in?

 

Anyone will tell you she isnt a well adjusted or decent person if shes going to hit on her husbands friend. And anyone will tell you that this low class woman cannot speak for all women in terms of their behavior.

 

Trust me...she never hated you at first...and you making her laugh didnt all of a sudden make her attracted to you. Trust me, she found you physically appealing at first...and put on a show in front of everyone else, only to show her true colors once you two were alone.

 

Dont be so naive. She knows the game she was playing and the facade she was putting on.

 

PS - A decent woman who loves her man and is attracted to her husband, wont want to, nor try, to get into another guys pants. Low quality women do that...not loyal high quality women.

 

^^^^^

This

[ThaWholigan]

Anyway, we've gone a little off topic here

[SteveC80]

Anyone will tell you she isnt a well adjusted or decent person if shes going to hit on her husbands friend. And anyone will tell you that this low class woman cannot speak for all women in terms of their behavior.

 

Trust me...she never hated you at first...and you making her laugh didnt all of a sudden make her attracted to you. Trust me, she found you physically appealing at first...and put on a show in front of everyone else, only to show her true colors once you two were alone.

 

Dont be so naive. She knows the game she was playing and the facade she was putting on.

 

PS - A decent woman who loves her man and is attracted to her husband, wont want to, nor try, to get into another guys pants. Low quality women do that...not loyal high quality women.

 

 

She may have found me physically attractive but isnt it possible she didnt like my personality beforehand? we werent even all that close or friendly to each other till we gt along well in the house

 

My other friends used to tell me shed call me arrogant and full of myself to them also so i dotn think it was a facade

[yongyong]

In general, do women marry a guy in lower job position?

do women marry a guy with less money?

do women marry a guy with less intelligence?

 

When you ask women what they want, do they talk about lower quality?

 

Guys don't care about those.

eg: you will look like an idiot as a guy if you say

'I make $50,000. I am looking for a woman who makes $70,000.'

'I am at entry level but I want a woman at manager position'

'I have undergrad but I want a woman Phd'

For women saying this, it's totally fine.

 

 

I hope you dated a woman who was more successful, had more money, was smarter than you to break my generalizing statement :laugh:

You wouldn't be embarrassed to talk about it right?

 

^Such BS. I know soooo many examples of this being false, from my own personal life to many other peoples lives as well. No one enjoys being made to feel inferior and looked down upon. The guys I know personally, with the most success with women, are the good looking dudes who know how to relate to a girl and make her feel like theyre on the same level.

 

PS - Women saying they care about personality means shed like to date someone with more than just looks. Because theres plenty of good looking dudes out there trying to get laid, and they are a dime a dozen. A great personality isnt.

[ThaWholigan]

She was saving face dude - when a girl tells her friends she thinks your arrogant or any other perception-based judgement similar to that, she's into you. Girls would say that about certain dudes and then end up f**king them. It's her way of rationalising out loud why she shouldn't be attracted to you.

 

Either way, she isn't indicative of how "most" women behave, but probably a sizeable portion.

[kaylan]

She may have found me physically attractive but isnt it possible she didnt like my personality beforehand? we werent even all that close or friendly to each other till we gt along well in the house

Just like men can, women can also dislike someones personality and still be physically attracted to them.

My other friends used to tell me shed call me arrogant and full of myself to them also so i dotn think it was a facade

Her crap talking you is her way to trying to bury her attraction in my opinion. And alcohol made her show her true colors. In any case, shes still a low quality woman, and I wouldnt use her as an example for all women.

 

Sure some women are like her, but many are not as well.

[SteveC80]

To be honest she could have been fin around her husband was in the vicinity and could have walked in..if she really had feeling for me wouldnt she be more discreet

[AD1980]

Why cant some people control themselves around good looking people? My friends wife is very good looking and i have no urge to have sex with her..i look at her like a sister...

Edited September 28, 2012 by AD1980

[Lonely Ronin]

Don't be sad

 

I try not to, but I have my reasons and that's a story for another day.