LittlePrince Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Men are the same. The number of times I've been told I must be a lesbian because I wasn't interested in the guy A lot of people are sore losers, hardly headline news. Men don't hold grudges like women.
ThaWholigan Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Men don't hold grudges like women. I beg to differ. A lot of guys are holding malice like catty little bitches nowadays.
oaks Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Men don't hold grudges like women. With thread topics like "Can women be responsible for men's misogynistic view of dating?" I'm pretty sure you're entirely wrong about that.
LittlePrince Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 With thread topics like "Can women be responsible for men's misogynistic view of dating?" I'm pretty sure you're entirely wrong about that. That would be barely a blip on the female grudge scale.
joystickd Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 You bitter guys need to pull your skirt down and do some approaching. If you want to get approached you have to approach for a while. Women have to see you are a normal, non creepy male that is desirable. It's like new products who wants to buy something if nobody else is buying it. 1
LittlePrince Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 You bitter guys need to pull your skirt down and do some approaching. If you want to get approached you have to approach for a while. Women have to see you are a normal, non creepy male that is desirable. It's like new products who wants to buy something if nobody else is buying it. This sounds more and more like a guide to being a manwhore.
joystickd Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 This sounds more and more like a guide to being a manwhore. What do you want to continue being a guy that gets no women or one that get women? I am far from a manwhore.
LittlePrince Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 What do you want to continue being a guy that gets no women or one that get women? I am far from a manwhore. I want to be me.
joystickd Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I want to be me. Well do you want to be you that gets women or not? That I want to be me stuff is loser talk. You got to step it up if you want success. You can do what works but you have to be authentic. The only reason it feels like its not you is because you are finally stepping out of that comfort zone. You got to get your ass out of the comfort zone. Quit being a pu**y and get out of the comfort zone
Lonely Ronin Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Then you need to accept the consequences of being you. I want to be me.
LittlePrince Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Then you need to accept the consequences of being you. Yeah like the consequences of being fabulous and awesome at the same time. I have quite a cross to bear.
LittlePrince Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Well do you want to be you that gets women or not? I want to be the me that gets me. You can do what works but you have to be authentic. You can't be authentic and at the same time be someone you aren't.
oaks Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Yeah like the consequences of being fabulous and awesome at the same time. I have quite a cross to bear. Delusional, too.
joystickd Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I want to be the me that gets me. You can't be authentic and at the same time be someone you aren't. yeah you can but you just don't want to do it
ScreamingTrees Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Men are the same. The number of times I've been told I must be a lesbian because I wasn't interested in the guy A lot of people are sore losers, hardly headline news. Ha, my sexuality has seriously been questioned before by a girl's friends because I declined her advances..
Necris Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Dude, I don't mean to rag on you really, but all you do is complain . You will never get anywhere if you keep doing that. You really have to learn to deal with it and keep trying. Learn how to do things, and have belief that it will work. Look at all the suggestions that I and others have made to you and other posters in similar dire straits. It's not impossible to become desirable you know . Sorry but it just seems hopeless when you are rejected 100% of the time and have had zero success at all with women, the methods people have suggested don't seem to work for me. I even tried acting class, speech therapy, and going to the gym but they did nothing for me, I'm just not sexually attractive enough. Though working out has helped alot in other areas of my life including socially as I notice people show alot more respect, but I have had zero improvement in my ability to attract women. I've have heard of alternative approaching methods but they don't seem to be too helpful. One I heard of is hit on every girl you come across until you get lucky, but that sounds extremely inefficient, desperate, and a huge waste of time. I've also heard of the don't meet women for the purpose of trying to ask them out and date them but just to have fun and get to know her and see where it goes method I find this is an excellent way to become just friends and highly inefficient, but its the most comfortable. Anyway I really don't know what I would have to do to make myself appealing to women. I probably should just give up and find something better to do. 1
Mrlonelyone Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Necris I can't believe things really are that bad for you.
LittlePrince Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Necris I can't believe things really are that bad for you. It isn't surprising. Those who don't have difficulty or not as much don't have to go through any of those self-improvement hoops which anyone should naturally conclude that these hoops are merely an unhelpful distraction producing no benefits.
borkus Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 In order for a girl to get into a relationship, she has to be physically attractive. In order for a guy to get into a relationship, he has to be physically attractive and be confident, aggressive, and charming. Women need looks. Men need looks plus personality. That is the burden that guys who are not rich have to bear. Even guys who have movie star looks need to be aggressive. Men are expected to not only attract the women, but they have to pursue her and win her over. It is no suprise that two of the biggest players I know are car salesman. Buying cool clothes and lifting lots of weights is much easier than getting rid of 30 years of bad habits. It is much easier to work on your looks than working on your personality. I think Sigmeund Freud said that some people need several years of therapy before they get the change that they need I think that you cannot discount that the guys who complain the most about dating and approaching are guys who are on the shy, quiet side. These guys have a hard time attracting women because they lack confidence in social situations. Even if they have above-average looks. they have a hard time keeping the interest of women who are into them because they are so poor at pursuing women. Tell me who does better in dating: shy guys or shy girls. The guys who are marginalized in dating are not the ugly guys or short guys. It's the quiet guys who get the short end of the stick in dating. If the roles were reversed and women were expected to pursue, more of these quiet guys would be relationships because there weaknesses would be hidden. I think a lot of women defend the status quo of dating because the current system of dating hides a lot of their personality flaws (i.e being shy and quiet).
bobsmith76 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Approaching seems far more desirable than being approached... as the person approaching, you get to control the interaction by deciding when it starts and how it starts. You also are guaranteed to be with someone you find attractive if the endeavor succeeds... if you relay entirely on being approached, it means you might never get someone who YOU like. I take it the poster is a woman. Well, if you think the active role is better then do you approach guys? If not, why not? So can someone please explain why guys are so eager to switch roles? I am very thankful that being a guy I get to make the first move and have more control over my destiny. It would be nice to be approached from time to time however.
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