Necromancer Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Why is it that people say that the guys who are successful with women are the guys who fail the most. I know pretty many guys and the guys who do the best with women don´t even need to hit on women. They just need to stand there. If you can only get 1/30 women(you hit on) i doubt the quality of the woman you get is going to be great. (look wise) Approaching tons of women and getting hit here and there is not being successful. That´s just playing with large numbers. The guys who are successful that i know are mostly really good looking guys. So if i get rejected by 57 women i want and get 1 hotty am i then successful with women?.
ThaWholigan Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 It depends on who you're talking about. Good looking guys who always get hit on are a minority. An exception. And it's usually not just their looks either, they are the combo - they have the looks, expression, and they are comfortable with that energy they have. It makes them like catnip. There is something inherently attractive about them that women cannot handle and they have to get some. The problem most guys have, is that they measure success, or at least their own success, by that of the exceptions noted above. That's their biggest problem. The only way you can replicate anything close is by - surprise surprise - playing the numbers. If you want that kind of success, that's how you do it. And honestly, some of those good looking guys that have every woman going at them - sometimes even they strike out . They might suck at talking to women and say something stupid that turns some of them off. Usually though, they are more successful than not. As a man, if you aren't that guy, you have to accept that. You have to define what success is for yourself. If you are monogamous, and you go through 30 girls and find one great girl who likes you, and you end up in a fulfilling LTR, that's a success. If you want to have a varied sex life, and you approach 100 women over the space of a few months, and have sex with more than 20 of them, that could be a success. Guys need to stop getting hung up on the numbers and comparing themselves to the exceptions who get pussy thrown at them all the time. And if that's what you REALLY REALLY want, the only way you can get that is this: - Believe you can. - Improve your looks, physique, body language, expression etc (because, you know, you can do that) - Get better at talking to women - Have an improved social stature & circle - Be rich - Be fun The end. 2
NoMoreJerks Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Why is it that people say that the guys who are successful with women are the guys who fail the most. I know pretty many guys and the guys who do the best with women don´t even need to hit on women. They just need to stand there. If you can only get 1/30 women(you hit on) i doubt the quality of the woman you get is going to be great. (look wise) Approaching tons of women and getting hit here and there is not being successful. That´s just playing with large numbers. The guys who are successful that i know are mostly really good looking guys. So if i get rejected by 57 women i want and get 1 hotty am i then successful with women?. Usually, I go for guys who do hit on me, but do so subtly. I like the "reserved" type, but not the ones that give away their insecurities. I like it when a guy hits on me by eye contact, a smile, that sort of thing. I guess just showing interest, not even hitting on someone. I would probably not pay much attention to guys who come on too strong.
MrNate 2.0 Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 It depends on who you're talking about. Good looking guys who always get hit on are a minority. An exception. And it's usually not just their looks either, they are the combo - they have the looks, expression, and they are comfortable with that energy they have. It makes them like catnip. There is something inherently attractive about them that women cannot handle and they have to get some. The problem most guys have, is that they measure success, or at least their own success, by that of the exceptions noted above. That's their biggest problem. The only way you can replicate anything close is by - surprise surprise - playing the numbers. If you want that kind of success, that's how you do it. And honestly, some of those good looking guys that have every woman going at them - sometimes even they strike out . They might suck at talking to women and say something stupid that turns some of them off. Usually though, they are more successful than not. As a man, if you aren't that guy, you have to accept that. You have to define what success is for yourself. If you are monogamous, and you go through 30 girls and find one great girl who likes you, and you end up in a fulfilling LTR, that's a success. If you want to have a varied sex life, and you approach 100 women over the space of a few months, and have sex with more than 20 of them, that could be a success. Guys need to stop getting hung up on the numbers and comparing themselves to the exceptions who get pussy thrown at them all the time. And if that's what you REALLY REALLY want, the only way you can get that is this: - Believe you can. - Improve your looks, physique, body language, expression etc (because, you know, you can do that) - Get better at talking to women - Have an improved social stature & circle - Be rich - Be fun The end. I tried to get rich, but I overdrew my checking account. Oh well.
ThaWholigan Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I tried to get rich, but I overdrew my checking account. Oh well. Psshh, you don't even have to be rich these days to get pussy thrown at you - it just helps a little. The status is probably more of an attraction than the money.
todreaminblue Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Why is it that people say that the guys who are successful with women are the guys who fail the most. I know pretty many guys and the guys who do the best with women don´t even need to hit on women. They just need to stand there. If you can only get 1/30 women(you hit on) i doubt the quality of the woman you get is going to be great. (look wise) Approaching tons of women and getting hit here and there is not being successful. That´s just playing with large numbers. The guys who are successful that i know are mostly really good looking guys. So if i get rejected by 57 women i want and get 1 hotty am i then successful with women?. yes you are successful if you feel that you are successful if you look at scoring on a quantitive level then you are not successful if you look at th f act this "hottie" makes you happy then yes you are.....success is in the way you view your accomplishments not how others view it.......congrats on the hottie hope her personality and yours mesh and you can have many hot years together....best wishes.....deb
MrNate 2.0 Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Psshh, you don't even have to be rich these days to get pussy thrown at you - it just helps a little. The status is probably more of an attraction than the money. I guess no one got my joke:laugh: Its ok. Mine are usually hot or miss. That's how funny I am. 1
todreaminblue Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I guess no one got my joke:laugh: Its ok. Mine are usually hot or miss. That's how funny I am. smilin dont you hate that its like the sounds of crickets chirping dear grasshopper....silence and then crickets chirping ....it was actually quite clever...;0)...i think so any way so you got a hit from me......i didnt read it before...smilin atcha..deb 1
ThaWholigan Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I guess no one got my joke:laugh: Its ok. Mine are usually hot or miss. That's how funny I am. I'm autistic mate. It happens
Joaquin Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 The most successful guy I know works on the maxim - don't go for girls in bars/clubs (i.e cold approach territory) that are better looking than you. It may sound a little defeatist, but it is what it is. Unless your very good looking youve a better of chance of getting hotties outside of that scene, like at work, through friends etc.
Joaquin Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Oh and if you can get a hottie through whatever means, yes, you are successful with women. Give yourself a congratulatory tug.
CptSaveAho Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Guys that are successful with women dont quantify or care how successful with women they are. 2
Joaquin Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Guys that are successful with women dont quantify or care how successful with women they are. You musnt know many guys that are successful with women. They know it. They love it.
AD1980 Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I think they mean if youre a guy whos just lookign for casual sex and make cold approaches then its a numbers game As far as the few men i know who do extremely well with women they almost never get rejected because their good looking and sociable
Joaquin Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I think they mean if youre a guy whos just lookign for casual sex and make cold approaches then its a numbers game As far as the few men i know who do extremely well with women they almost never get rejected because their good looking and sociable Sociable and good looking. It's the simple explanations that are usually correct. Nail on the head there.
Author Necromancer Posted September 14, 2012 Author Posted September 14, 2012 It depends on who you're talking about. Good looking guys who always get hit on are a minority. An exception. And it's usually not just their looks either, they are the combo - they have the looks, expression, and they are comfortable with that energy they have. It makes them like catnip. There is something inherently attractive about them that women cannot handle and they have to get some. The problem most guys have, is that they measure success, or at least their own success, by that of the exceptions noted above. That's their biggest problem. The only way you can replicate anything close is by - surprise surprise - playing the numbers. If you want that kind of success, that's how you do it. And honestly, some of those good looking guys that have every woman going at them - sometimes even they strike out . They might suck at talking to women and say something stupid that turns some of them off. Usually though, they are more successful than not. As a man, if you aren't that guy, you have to accept that. You have to define what success is for yourself. If you are monogamous, and you go through 30 girls and find one great girl who likes you, and you end up in a fulfilling LTR, that's a success. If you want to have a varied sex life, and you approach 100 women over the space of a few months, and have sex with more than 20 of them, that could be a success. Guys need to stop getting hung up on the numbers and comparing themselves to the exceptions who get pussy thrown at them all the time. And if that's what you REALLY REALLY want, the only way you can get that is this: - Believe you can. - Improve your looks, physique, body language, expression etc (because, you know, you can do that) - Get better at talking to women - Have an improved social stature & circle - Be rich - Be fun The end. I think the best way is to approach only to see if she has good tastes in men. Then there is no rejection, she only has bad taste in men.
jobaba Posted September 14, 2012 Posted September 14, 2012 Why is it that people say that the guys who are successful with women are the guys who fail the most. I know pretty many guys and the guys who do the best with women don´t even need to hit on women. They just need to stand there. If you can only get 1/30 women(you hit on) i doubt the quality of the woman you get is going to be great. (look wise) Approaching tons of women and getting hit here and there is not being successful. That´s just playing with large numbers. The guys who are successful that i know are mostly really good looking guys. So if i get rejected by 57 women i want and get 1 hotty am i then successful with women?. It seems to me Necro ... that you are chasing after women who go for looks. Yes, women who are 5s to 7s can often snag guys who are 9s and 10s fairly easily. Unfair? Yes. Most women appreciate and lust after good looking guys. But not all do. Some women who are quite attractive just don't go for good looking guys. It's rare yes. Others who are average to mediocre chase after them like crazy. You can just tell by the way they talk. If you are hanging with a gal, and all she ever talks about are good looking guys, cute guys, yada, yada. And she says I'd date so and so and so and so, and all the guys she mentions are like the top looking guys, then stay away from her. Not that you're not a good looking guy. You're probably just not a 9 or 10, or you wouldn't be posting here complaining.
runner Posted September 14, 2012 Posted September 14, 2012 You musnt know many guys that are successful with women. They know it. They love it. and they're also lying and/or exaggerating. i'm hardly impressed.
KungFuJoe Posted September 14, 2012 Posted September 14, 2012 I'm autistic mate. It happens Not to derail the topic, but just how in the hell are you autistic? You're one of the most sensible and well grounded people on this board. Aren't one of the symptoms of autism the inability to understand emotions and that your methods of reasoning and understanding are askewed? I definitely don't sense that from you.
ThaWholigan Posted September 14, 2012 Posted September 14, 2012 Not to derail the topic, but just how in the hell are you autistic? You're one of the most sensible and well grounded people on this board. Aren't one of the symptoms of autism the inability to understand emotions and that your methods of reasoning and understanding are askewed? I definitely don't sense that from you. I did have quite a few of those very same problems in my growing up - fortunately for me it is mild. I have also done a LOT of work on myself to actually be able to do certain things. So I fall onto the high functioning side of the spectrum. Dx'd by 2 psychologists. 1
yoman38 Posted September 14, 2012 Posted September 14, 2012 Why is it that people say that the guys who are successful with women are the guys who fail the most. The guys who are successful that i know are mostly really good looking guys. So if i get rejected by 57 women i want and get 1 hotty am i then successful with women?. if that really beautiful woman starts dating you and falls in love with you and you guys have an awesome relationship then... yes
KungFuJoe Posted September 14, 2012 Posted September 14, 2012 I did have quite a few of those very same problems in my growing up - fortunately for me it is mild. I have also done a LOT of work on myself to actually be able to do certain things. So I fall onto the high functioning side of the spectrum. Dx'd by 2 psychologists. Well, you seem like a pretty great person.... Unlike the rest of the scum in this place..... I kid. I kid. 1
Author Necromancer Posted September 14, 2012 Author Posted September 14, 2012 It seems to me Necro ... that you are chasing after women who go for looks. Yes, women who are 5s to 7s can often snag guys who are 9s and 10s fairly easily. Unfair? Yes. Most women appreciate and lust after good looking guys. But not all do. Some women who are quite attractive just don't go for good looking guys. It's rare yes. Others who are average to mediocre chase after them like crazy. You can just tell by the way they talk. If you are hanging with a gal, and all she ever talks about are good looking guys, cute guys, yada, yada. And she says I'd date so and so and so and so, and all the guys she mentions are like the top looking guys, then stay away from her. Not that you're not a good looking guy. You're probably just not a 9 or 10, or you wouldn't be posting here complaining. I am by no means chasing after 9/10 women, i would only get that kind of women by pure luck and why not to try my luck now and then. I believe the women i go for are most in the 5-8 range. (If you saw the pic of the gal i was kissing like that looking wise). It just seems that i need to ask more women out, in the end one will bite that i like.
Necris Posted September 14, 2012 Posted September 14, 2012 I know pretty many guys and the guys who do the best with women don´t even need to hit on women. They just need to stand there. I know plenty of guys just like that myself, I always wanted to know their secret. I approach women and always fail, and I can't recall ever a time where a woman showed any level of attraction towards me. But some guys don't even have to approach and women are just drawn to them, its like magic or something. So if i get rejected by 57 women i want and get 1 hotty am i then successful with women?. Yes, the goal at least for someone like myself is to have a relationship with that one woman.
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