Woggle Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 My former sister in law is the one person from her family that I actually got along with. She was an example of sanity and a completely insane family.`Today she called to tell me some news that she thought I should know about. My ex will probably get out in a couple years and her family and her lawyers are gearing up to try and get alimony from me and sue me for emotional distress and cruelty. They feel it was me who took a naive girl who ran away to New York from the Jersey suburbs and turned her into a drug addict forcing her to stay in a loveless marriage while leaving her no choice but to soothe the pain with affairs. I then abandoned her when she was at her most vulnerable and used my lawyer to leave her with nothing. So according to them I was wrong for putting her in a loveless marriage but then wrong for setting for free? Also if she got the house it would have been a crack den at this point. I am so sick of this crap. Just when I am starting to get over my trust issues and finally put it behind me this crap rears it's ugly head again. Why can't her, her family and my mom just leave me the hell alone, help her get back on her feet and leave me in peace? Does it really bother them that much that I have moved on and am happy without her? How in the hell does anybody consider her the victim in all of this? If she really goes through with this I am getting a pitbull lawyer and fighting it with everything I have.
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Call a lawyer but I think when you both signed your divorce agreement you both stated that no further action would be taken against the other for property.
sally4sara Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Oh wow! I just looked into this and to my surprise yes she can try to get alimony out of you well after the fact. Look into Lepis VS Lepis, a NJ 1980 divorce case to find out the details of under what grounds this can be done. And we can all just hope she gets shived in while still in prison or overdoses shortly after she gets out, but you should prepare for the worst. Just remember this isn't about a gender war. Its about your crazy ex wife being a useless stain on humanity. 1
Author Woggle Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 Can the fact that she did time for trying to shoot me hurt her case? I feel horrible for this thought running through my head but since she can't seem to stay stable for more than a few days while free maybe I figured she will finally go too far and I will be done with this crap. I would never wish anything like that even on her though.
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Did you both sign a divorce settlement agreement? If you did then check the alimony section and see if you both waived your right to the Crews v Crews ruling. I think we both got divorced around the same time ('05 for me).
Author Woggle Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 I was divorced in 03 and there was no real settlement. She tried to take me to the cleaners but was caught blatantly lying in court so she got nothing. I will have to look at the paper work though. Also how did I turn her into a junkie when she did drugs before she met me? Her oh so supportive friends who egged her on to cheat introduced her to cocaine and then after that she did anything she could get her hands on. I even tried to get her into rehab but her and her mother said I was trying to control her. This makes no sense whatsoever.
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 She isn't getting out soon, right? I wonder if she was notified when you put your wife's name on the house. You did that right? Could her name have possibly showed up on the title search?
Author Woggle Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 She isn't getting out soon, right? I wonder if she was notified when you put your wife's name on the house. You did that right? Could her name have possibly showed up on the title search? She will probably be out by about 2014 but I don't want this hanging over my head. I also bought out her part of the house which along with the half in the bank account was the only money she got. I was supposed to be off scott free after that.
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 She will probably be out by about 2014 but I don't want this hanging over my head. I also bought out her part of the house which along with the half in the bank account was the only money she got. I was supposed to be off scott free after that. Then you need to find the court document that states that. Did you recently do a title search on the house? That would be the most likely explanation as to why all this is happening now.
Author Woggle Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 Then you need to find the court document that states that. Did you recently do a title search on the house? That would be the most likely explanation as to why all this is happening now. I think they have planning it for a while. They will do anything to demonize me and avoid making her take responsibility for how her life turned out.
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Also if you can't find the paperwork you can get a copy at the courthouse where your divorce was finalized. I wouldn't wait on that though. I'm not sure how long they would hold the records for. It couldn't hurt to call them.
Art_Critic Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I would think the statute of limitations would kick it after 9-10 years and nullify any past alimony rights.. Not sure what the SOL are but murder is the only thing out there without any...
sally4sara Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I would think the statute of limitations would kick it after 9-10 years and nullify any past alimony rights.. Not sure what the SOL are but murder is the only thing out there without any... Nah. I went digging and found cases of alimony awarded 16 and 25 years after the fact. Mostly due to heath status and economic upheaval that cannot be managed any other way. Wogs it doesn't matter what she and her family accuse you of because you're not guilty. They will have to prove their allegations and I doubt they will even come close to getting their aim but its best to be more prepared than you need to be than it is to ignore the possibilities.
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I would think the statute of limitations would kick it after 9-10 years and nullify any past alimony rights.. Not sure what the SOL are but murder is the only thing out there without any... If Crews v Crews was signed into it, she'd get nothing even one day later. He's got to get a hold of the settlement agreement.
Author Woggle Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 I will go to the court and get a copy. 1
Art_Critic Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 New Jersey Statute of Limitations While it doesn't talk about that specific case of crews v crews it does basically show that 1-6 years is about the SOL for civil cases in NJ... I think a call to your attorney would be the best step to take as he would know right away if after 10 years you were still civilly liable for alimony
Art_Critic Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Nah. I went digging and found cases of alimony awarded 16 and 25 years after the fact. Mostly due to heath status and economic upheaval that cannot be managed any other way. I wonder if those cases were for long term marriages.. I also think that her being imprisoned for attempting to murder him would also weigh in here, since she is there because of her own actions.
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I wonder if those cases were for long term marriages.. I also think that her being imprisoned for attempting to murder him would also weigh in here, since she is there because of her own actions. I hope you're right about that. The Crews ruling came in the 90s. It's the ruling to overturn the other ruling. Anyway she really shouldn't get jack since she tried to kill him.
Author Woggle Posted September 8, 2012 Author Posted September 8, 2012 If my lawyer could destroy her case in my divorce before the shooting and the criminal record surely he could destroy her case after all that crap. If they do try this I will fight as dirty as legally possible. 2
2sure Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 As dirty as legally possible is quite filthy as it turns out. With an attorney , brainstorm ideas you can present to her that will put her back in jail. 1
carhill Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 If she has the 50-100 grand needed to mount a successful lawsuit, anything is possible. 1
SJC2008 Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 If my lawyer could destroy her case in my divorce before the shooting and the criminal record surely he could destroy her case after all that crap. If they do try this I will fight as dirty as legally possible. I wish you the best but NJ is a weird state (government wise) you can't even pump gas?? I worked with a guy from NJ and he has to pay alimony until his ex re-married. She won't. He fought it tooth and nail and claims he kept trying to fight it until they would't let him. Your evidence against her from the first go around with her seems promising. Good luck!
sally4sara Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Did you find any factually on-point cases, that is, where the ex's poverty was caused by her serious criminal conduct, specifically, trying to murder her spouse? Somehow I doubt it. You can't just randomly go "digging" and recite cases which seem to have superficial similarities to Woggle's situation yet ignoring the huge differences, I know you're trying to be helpful, but on the other hand what is the point of scaring the crap out of him? I can and I did. I cited it specifically because it was a NJ case and with the purpose of him taking it to his lawyer and making sure nothing about that case could be misconstrued into being relevant to his case. He is already scared. I looked to find out something to help ease his mind, which would be preferable, but instead found something he should talk to his lawyer about. So, uhhh, how about STFU and don't tell me what to do? What you would need to look for (do you have access to lexis or some other legal database?) are cases in which the alimony is being requested long after the divorce because the ex impoverished herself/himself by committing a crime and being incarcerated for it. I did. My family has a law firm so I asked someone to do a quick peek. He isn't paying me to handle his case. He should speak to his lawyer. You do not moderate what I can and can't type on a public forum
Author Woggle Posted September 8, 2012 Author Posted September 8, 2012 I called my lawyer from the first divorcewho knows his stuff and he says that it is technically possible but with her record of violence including violence towards me plus her history of hard drug use and in general destructive behavior contrasted with my spotless criminal record he doesn't see her having a case. She is the one who made a mess of her life and the courts will most likely see that. 1
TaraMaiden Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 That's good news, Woggle... And please remember: This isn't "women". This is "Her". We're rooting for you.
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