USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 You would probably be surprised to know that I would seriously consider nexting any guy who voted for George W. Bush twice. No offense to you, RR, but I would simply next any girl who was so politically closed-minded as to consider nexting someone based on who they voted for...as it speaks strongly about her beyond the political scope... 1
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 No offense to you, RR, but I would simply next any girl who was so politically closed-minded as to consider nexting someone based on who they voted for...as it speaks strongly about her beyond the political scope... She said she would 'consider' nexting a guy who voted for GW twice. Which sounds to me like she would give him a chance to explain his side of the story. Do you know how many friends I know who wouldn't even consider dating a Republican period and really wouldn't even be friends with one? Lots. So. Not that closed minded. Watching the DNC...
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 She said she would 'consider' nexting a guy who voted for GW twice. Which sounds to me like she would give him a chance to explain his side of the story. Do you know how many friends I know who wouldn't even consider dating a Republican period and really wouldn't even be friends with one? Lots. So. Not that closed minded. Watching the DNC... I think it's more a product of bandwagon theory than actual beliefs...they value the label of being a democrat or a republican more than they value the actual philosophy of the parties... I feel it's almost as childish as cooties...ewww, a republican...?! 1
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Questions for you guys then; 1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others? When I say the thing within politics, Im talking general economic and social issues that shape our lifes. In my experience, people with a greater interest in how the world runs tend to be more intellectual due to their knowledge of particular topics. 2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all? 3. Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women? And because of this I notice more guys are interested in economics and social issues. It would seem to me that there are more women than men who simply go along in their life not caring about what makes life the way it is...or if they have complaints about certain aspects of society, theres more women than men who dont educate themselves on ways to change it. I would prefer a woman who cares about the major issues and knows about them, but... Breadth of political knowledge is an arrogant, endless game. There's always some d-bag in a bar who watches FoxNews and Bill O'Reilly all day who knows more than you and is more than willing to shoot down your opinion based on some obscure political anecdote he has in his pocket. Been there done that.
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I think it's more a product of bandwagon theory than actual beliefs...they value the label of being a democrat or a republican more than they value the actual philosophy of the parties... I feel it's almost as childish as cooties...ewww, a republican...?! I agree. It's like how people think Republicans are dirty, lying, d-bags. Well a lot of them are. But so are a lot of Democrats. Someone who voted for GW twice is a little more than just a Republican. There is a good chance that person doesn't have a lot in common with me in terms of social stances and ideology of responsibility to help those less fortunate. Ideally, I'd want someone who thought the same as me. 1
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 If anyone thinks that Republicans and Democrats aren't part of the same team, they're not paying attention in my opinion. If you look the voting records of US congressmen, then you see that when it comes to voting on real issues, then R's and D's team up and vote the same. Which is why I feel like for a lot of people, it's more about the social image you project and less about the political values... Hating on the G Dubs is as cool as liking Dave Matthews Band in middle school. 2
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Which is why I feel like for a lot of people, it's more about the social image you project and less about the political values... Hating on the G Dubs is as cool as liking Dave Matthews Band in middle school. That is true, and I have friends like this ... mostly in LA and SD. They actually get mad at ME, not because I am a Republican and conservative Christian and share their views, but because I sympathize with how somebody could think that way (opposition to gay marriage for instance). I don't mind being friends with someone who has a complete different social ideology from me. But dating someone like that ... they'd tend to say a lot of things that would piss me off.
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Watching the DNC while at the gym, and I came up with a new slogan: "Forward. It's what you do after sitting around for 4 years hoping." 2
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Watching the DNC while at the gym, and I came up with a new slogan: "Forward. It's what you do after sitting around for 4 years hoping." So then ... would you date someone who voted for Obama twice and supports Ehren Watada?
Author kaylan Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 No offense to you, RR, but I would simply next any girl who was so politically closed-minded as to consider nexting someone based on who they voted for...as it speaks strongly about her beyond the political scope... I dont see it as close minded. Birds of a feather flock together. And when it comes to political views...for me, someones whos right wing has warped views on very important social and economic issues that affect people based on their gender, race, and sexual orientation. I couldnt date nor really be close friends with someone who felt gays should have less rights than everyone else....or who felt women shouldnt be allowed to have complete reproductive rights. These are serious civil liberty issues...a couple of many...and I couldnt have total respect for someone who backs policies that would stifle someones right to live freely. Politics represent very important things in life that affect humans as a whole...so its not closeminded to not want to date someone who you believe is out of touch with the way things should be. Id be acquaintances with someone of differing political views....but close friends or dating is out of the question.
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 So then ... would you date someone who voted for Obama twice and supports Ehren Watada? Yes. My girlfriend voted for him last time and plans to do it again. Don't know who the other one is...
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Yes. My girlfriend voted for him last time and plans to do it again. Don't know who the other one is... Google him and then give me your answer. Congrats on getting a gal BTW.
Pyro Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Questions for you guys then; 1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others? When I say the thing within politics, Im talking general economic and social issues that shape our lifes. In my experience, people with a greater interest in how the world runs tend to be more intellectual due to their knowledge of particular topics. I will find them to be truly intellectual if they do follow current events but at the same time respect those who have differing points of view than their own. 2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all? If they aren't completely up to date I don't mind. As long as they make an attempt to keep up. 3. Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women? And because of this I notice more guys are interested in economics and social issues. It would seem to me that there are more women than men who simply go along in their life not caring about what makes life the way it is...or if they have complaints about certain aspects of society, theres more women than men who dont educate themselves on ways to change it. IMO men are very outspoken about their beliefs, but that doesn't mean that women aren't following current events. answers in bold
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Google him and then give me your answer. Congrats on getting a gal BTW. Thanks. The reason I can do that is because I separate the person from the beliefs. Regardless of who is president, I still believe the same thing I believe. Some people become so attached to the candidate that their entire belief system is embodied in that person, and if you don't vote for that candidate, then you are 100% against the person and should burn in hell. A bit short-sighted if you ask me... 1
Anela Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 If anyone thinks that Republicans and Democrats aren't part of the same team, they're not paying attention in my opinion. If you look the voting records of US congressmen, then you see that when it comes to voting on real issues, then R's and D's team up and vote the same. I most likely won't be voting this year. I don't feel excited about either side - I did, four years ago, for the first time in years. I posted something on my FB yesterday, that I'd read about Obama, that I didn't like. I said how disappointed I was, and someone jumped in with a link to spread the blame around a bit - it still doesn't change the fact that it was something he did, as president. He didn't have to do it, but he chose to. I prefer Obama over Romney, for several reasons, but they won't get my vote by being slightly better. 1
amaysngrace Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 If I based my criteria on someone who shares my political beliefs then I'd be alone forever. I'm all over the place with what I believe. Some right, some left but all me. I'd need to find someone who is aware of the issues but not hardcore about them. I think if someone was a diehard conservative or a diehard liberal then we'd probably fight more than we'd get along. Too rigid for my thinking. 2
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Thanks. The reason I can do that is because I separate the person from the beliefs. Regardless of who is president, I still believe the same thing I believe. Some people become so attached to the candidate that their entire belief system is embodied in that person, and if you don't vote for that candidate, then you are 100% against the person and should burn in hell. A bit short-sighted if you ask me... Well I agree. My last girlfriend didn't support gay marriage and while that irked me, she was a real good gal. I'd rather have that than some liberal who shared all my views but was a vapid nasty chick. And there's plenty of those around. But ideally, I'd date a liberal 'cuz I'm liberal on most social, fiscal, and environmental issues.
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Well I agree. My last girlfriend didn't support gay marriage and while that irked me, she was a real good gal. I'd rather have that than some liberal who shared all my views but was a vapid nasty chick. And there's plenty of those around. But ideally, I'd date a liberal 'cuz I'm liberal on most social, fiscal, and environmental issues. Yep. The gal and I are both socially liberal and fiscally conservative and agree on almost every issue, yet we vote for different candidates. Go figure.
veggirl Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Yep. The gal and I are both socially liberal and fiscally conservative and agree on almost every issue, yet we vote for different candidates. Go figure. I've always wondered about people who are "socially liberal and fiscally conservative". How does that work? You want the programs etc a socially liberal gov't would endorse but not to pay for it or something?
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I've always wondered about people who are "socially liberal and fiscally conservative". How does that work? You want the programs etc a socially liberal gov't would endorse but not to pay for it or something? To me, "socially liberal and fiscally conservative" means people should be able to do whatever the hell they want without infringing on rights of others, while people shouldnt get handouts on the taxpayer dime. 2
jobaba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 To me, "socially liberal and fiscally conservative" means people should be able to do whatever the hell they want without infringing on rights of others, while people shouldnt get handouts on the taxpayer dime. Libertarian...
Woggle Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I just can't be with somebody who doesn't keep themselves informed on the state of the world. 1
USMCHokie Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Libertarian... Ah, so that's what that is. Cool.
Star Gazer Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Re: the OP: Yes, I think it's important (CRITICAL, really), and yes, it's a turn-off. I dont see it as close minded. Birds of a feather flock together. And when it comes to political views...for me, someones whos right wing has warped views on very important social and economic issues that affect people based on their gender, race, and sexual orientation. I couldnt date nor really be close friends with someone who felt gays should have less rights than everyone else....or who felt women shouldnt be allowed to have complete reproductive rights. These are serious civil liberty issues...a couple of many...and I couldnt have total respect for someone who backs policies that would stifle someones right to live freely. Politics represent very important things in life that affect humans as a whole...so its not closeminded to not want to date someone who you believe is out of touch with the way things should be. Id be acquaintances with someone of differing political views....but close friends or dating is out of the question. Totally agree with all of the above, and especially the bolded.
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