Turned off by a womans lack of knowledge in new or politics

[kaylan]

So Im talking to a girl I like and I bring up something regarding the coming election...and she has no idea what Im talking about nor really an interest in politics it seems. I felt super turned off by this, because voting and politics shapes so many important aspects of our life. Hell I remember us talking about the 08 election and she pretty much voted for who she thought talked better and who she liked more from watching speeches....nothing to do with actual policies...and that bothered me a bit.

 

I know this isnt everyone, but in my experience, the more intellectual women tend to at least follow news somewhat and have a decent grasp of politics and various economic or social issues. I dig this chick but her lack of interest in anything that could be a remotely in depth convo turns me off.

 

Questions for you guys then;

 

1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others? When I say the thing within politics, Im talking general economic and social issues that shape our lifes. In my experience, people with a greater interest in how the world runs tend to be more intellectual due to their knowledge of particular topics.

 

2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all?

 

3. Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women? And because of this I notice more guys are interested in economics and social issues. It would seem to me that there are more women than men who simply go along in their life not caring about what makes life the way it is...or if they have complaints about certain aspects of society, theres more women than men who dont educate themselves on ways to change it.

[oaks]

2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all?

 

Yes. I don't care who other people vote for (well, I do a bit, but I don't get preachy about it) so long as they make an informed choice and actually vote... so they have to pay attention to what's going on!

 

Exception: I give foreigners who don't have a right to vote here a bit of a free pass on the politics stuff.

[ThaWholigan]

It depends - I'd rather date someone who either doesn't give a f*ck about politics, or has the same distrust for all of them that I do .

 

I can't say I'm really that turned off by it - although if all she cared about was TOWIE and Eastenders then I'd be turned off .

[denise_xo]

1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others?

 

2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all?

 

3. Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women?

 

1. Often but not necessarily. I know several people who are very intellectually curious, but who turn their attention towards literature, music and art rather than politics and current events, or towards more abstract philosophical questions like the nature of 'love' or 'truth' or something of the sorts.

 

2. Yes. That's just one of the areas where I'd want compatibility in a relationship.

 

3. Personally, this isn't my experience at all where I live. I've experienced it more in gender segregated societies where men occupy all the political positions and women's roles are more explicitly bound to the home.

[SteveC80]

Women voted presidents in because of how good looking they are ie Kennedy[yeah women arent visual lol]..pretty scary whats important to women

 

There are some smart women out there into politics and important issues but the majority of women are into vanity and gossip

[ThaWholigan]

To properly answer the questions:

 

1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others? When I say the thing within politics, Im talking general economic and social issues that shape our lifes. In my experience, people with a greater interest in how the world runs tend to be more intellectual due to their knowledge of particular topics.

 

Not really. It depends on how they look at it. I get more intellectual conversations out of people who believe in NWO and Zionism than I do out of people who vote Labour or Tory. Economic and social issues do reflect some level of intellectualism, but I can't really say that's high up on my list of turn-ons, rather just something that some people do that I occasionally engage in. It depends on the person.

 

2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all?

 

No. As much as I stay up to date, I don't really like politicians, and I think they're all a bunch of pricks. I only keep up to date to see what wave of sh*t they're going to be throwing our way that we have to deal with. It might even be a relief to date a girl who doesn't talk about it, or at least looks at it the way that I do.

 

3. Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women? And because of this I notice more guys are interested in economics and social issues. It would seem to me that there are more women than men who simply go along in their life not caring about what makes life the way it is...or if they have complaints about certain aspects of society, theres more women than men who dont educate themselves on ways to change it.

 

I haven't noticed that trend too much, although a lot of girls tend to be more bothered about other things. However, I think there is an equal amount of people who don't educate themselves on how to change things, something I have been doing for the last few years now.

[Taramere]

1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others? When I say the thing within politics, Im talking general economic and social issues that shape our lifes. In my experience, people with a greater interest in how the world runs tend to be more intellectual due to their knowledge of particular topics.

 

Yes. I think that more intellectual people are automatically more likely to be curious about history, philosophy and current events...and will tend to draw elements of these different subject areas together as part of making sense of the world around them.

 

Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all?

 

Well, sometimes I will be remarkably clueless about an important current event because I've become engrossed in another subject...so I wouldn't just discount somebody as an idiot because they were unaware of current news. If my instinct was that they were generally intelligent I'd probably want to find out what else had been occupying their mind lately.

 

Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women? And because of this I notice more guys are interested in economics and social issues. It would seem to me that there are more women than men who simply go along in their life not caring about what makes life the way it is...or if they have complaints about certain aspects of society, theres more women than men who dont educate themselves on ways to change it.

 

I think there's more of an expectation that men will talk about politics and current news...even just as small talk. When I get the bit between my teeth, I'll tend to dig quite deep on issues....but that can be exhausting and very time consuming. So I tend to have flurries of activity rather than paying attention to the news on a daily basis. I'm trying to address that, though. In the day to day of making small talk, there isn't a need for quite the level of investigation I carry out. In fact, it's better just to listen to the news on the radio and make conversation based on those superficial accounts.

 

I've worked in a lot of different places - some of them very civilised and functional, others less so. One thing I've noticed is that in the more functional and pleasant workplaces, coffee break/lunchtime chats tend to feature more regional news/current affairs. Especially any news that's relevant to that particular workplace (obviously, discussed in a newsy rather than contentious/debating way).

 

In the more dysfunctional workplaces, conversation centres around the personal - which can feel warm and cosy at first, but can get messy quickly. Or, if news and politics are discussed, they'll be discussed in a heated way...which isn't really ideal in the workplace.

 

Socally...news and current events are sometimes a bit too dry. I think it's better to refer to them only for the entertaining/funny elements rather than getting into detailed discussion. If I found myself discussing politics at length and in depth with a guy on a date, I wouldn't really expect him to ask me out again. It just seems a little bit too dry/bluestockingish for a date.

[denise_xo]

What does this mean?

 

bluestockingish

[Taramere]

What does this mean?

 

Oh...blue stocking = academic woman. Which is good in some contexts, of course, but the part of me that loves learning isn't necessarily the part that I would want to come out in an initial date, because it can be a bit intense and serious.

[ThaWholigan]

Oh...blue stocking = academic woman. Which is good in some contexts, of course, but the part of me that loves learning isn't necessarily the part that I would want to come out in an initial date, because it can be a bit intense and serious.

I don't know about that .

 

Depends on the subject though, of course

[GorillaTheater]

I don't know about that .

 

Depends on the subject though, of course

 

To be honest, I stalled out at "stockings".

[Taramere]

I don't know about that .

 

Depends on the subject though, of course

 

The last time I was on a date, I found myself talking with great intensity about Tax Increment Financing. It was one of those moments when you suddenly step outside yourself and watch with horror and waves of unreality.

[2sure]

Someone who not only doesn't know, but isn't interested in current national and international events...like war, famine, genocide, politics, pollution, education ,finance and all of the other issues that concern the planet & each town on it is not interesting to me or anyone I know.

 

With all of the information we have access to these days...to not have any of it ...my 16 year old daughter reads 2 papers on line every morning, not all of it, not business or sports but...she can have a conversation about subjects that effect...oh, the human race.

[2sure]

The last time I was on a date, I found myself talking with great intensity about Tax Increment Financing. It was one of those moments when you suddenly step outside yourself and watch with horror and waves of unreality.

 

 

I should point out that I am well informed and possibly terminally single.

[SJC2008]

IMO most everyday Joes and Janes don't watch the news and keep up with news/politics. I love to! I don't get so into it like some people do, blaming the other party for everything, which is totally immature. I just like to keep up with what's going on in the world, especially with the world powers like China and Russia. And the trouble makers like Iran and Syria.

 

As long as a woman isn't a "ditz" it woulnd't turn me off but I'd love to meet a woman who likes to talk about things like that/keeps up with those things.

[veggirl]

If a guy is spouting off about how he "doesn't care" about politics, yes turn off. I would ask why. I'm not sure if there would be an acceptable answer for me. I would think he is dumb. If a guy is clueless about basic political things, same thing. I once dated a guy who did not know the difference between democrat and republican, he asked me how he would know which of those he is. I decided he was too stupid for me to date.

 

I'm not expecting some politcal expert or anything--I am FAR from that myself--but a basic interest and understanding, yes that's a must.

[SJC2008]

If a guy is spouting off about how he "doesn't care" about politics, yes turn off. I would ask why. I'm not sure if there would be an acceptable answer for me. I would think he is dumb. If a guy is clueless about basic political things, same thing. I once dated a guy who did not know the difference between democrat and republican, he asked me how he would know which of those he is. I decided he was too stupid for me to date.

 

I'm not expecting some politcal expert or anything--I am FAR from that myself--but a basic interest and understanding, yes that's a must.

 

Very good point! You don't have to be an expert, just have a general idea of the political scene and what's going on. Anyone should care about the state of the country they live in. It makes me sick how much debt were in and these wars we get into that cost us trillions

[Feelin Frisky]

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Questions for you guys then;

 

1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others? When I say the thing within politics, Im talking general economic and social issues that shape our lifes. In my experience, people with a greater interest in how the world runs tend to be more intellectual due to their knowledge of particular topics.

 

2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all?

 

3. Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women? And because of this I notice more guys are interested in economics and social issues. It would seem to me that there are more women than men who simply go along in their life not caring about what makes life the way it is...or if they have complaints about certain aspects of society, theres more women than men who dont educate themselves on ways to change it.

 

The first question is a tad confusing. Of course people who apply themselves to keeping up on current events are more "intellectual". But they can also have contrary politics and buy heavily into what their family has influenced them into believing. So just being active does not imply insight or independence.

 

To the second question I am marginally put off by a women who is smart in most everything but does not seem to take note of anything or anyone where your conversation becomes very limited after a while. I simply can not work with someone of the opposite political persuasion. Even a little will start coming out because admittedly I AM PASSIONATE about politics, journalism and truth and there is a lot to be pissed off and disgusted with these days. I always say on "deal-breaker"{ threads that she "must not be a republican". It's not a joke although I usually laugh when I type it.

 

And to question three, it does appear to me that men pay more attention to politics. But the facts show that this does not mean men are united in their politics and a major portion of them favor the heartless right-wing haters. Women seem far less drawn to the Rush Limbaughs. But IMO not enough assert themselves against the influences of hate a person like him represents. I want a chick like Krystal Ball--she is where I am politically and she's lovely. I wouldn't kick her political opposite on the same show on MSNBC S.E. Cupp out of bed (until after I cum) then I'd kick that right wing biotch out. Krystal is it for me.

[ThaWholigan]

Very good point! You don't have to be an expert, just have a general idea of the political scene and what's going on. Anyone should care about the state of the country they live in. It makes me sick how much debt were in and these wars we get into that cost us trillions

Oh, I follow politics and all of it, and the stuff behind it, the secret stuff, the possible conspiracies, all of it.

 

I just don't support any of the politicians, they're all liars to me. Except Chuka Ummuna, he's cool as f*ck.

[Content]

ehh its not a huge deal as long a shes not a dolt and is interesting and can hold a conversation its fine..

 

Ive becomed disillusioned with politics and politcians in general..i dont think any of em truly give a **** about anytihng but getting elected..

[veggirl]

Oh, I follow politics and all of it, and the stuff behind it, the secret stuff, the possible conspiracies, all of it.

 

I just don't support any of the politicians, they're all liars to me. Except Chuka Ummuna, he's cool as f*ck.

 

See now this would be okay--you are probably way more educated on politics than many people. Not supporting is okay, not knowing is not.

[WhiteChocolate]

I think people like people who hold similar values.

 

So since you believe politics is so pertinent to our daily lives, it seems incredible to you that someone could not care about it. So if you are turned off by someone who doesn't value politics, that's perfectly normal.

[USMCHokie]

It is a turn off for me if a woman boasts of her knowledge and "interest" in politics, and the extent of her expertise is limited to regurgitating what someone else said on CNN.

[RedRobin]

Questions for you guys then;

 

1. Do you find folks who follow important news events or politics (or the things within politics ) to be more intellectual than others? When I say the thing within politics, Im talking general economic and social issues that shape our lifes. In my experience, people with a greater interest in how the world runs tend to be more intellectual due to their knowledge of particular topics.

 

Yes, it does tend to give me more to talk about with them... On the other hand, I don't see this as a strong indicator of character or even necessarily an indicator of someone who is loving and loyal. If this is REALLY important to you... and other things (besides this one) align with you, I'd say let it go... and keep a circle of friends who can chat up this side of things with you.

 

2. Are you turned off by people who dont stay up to date on important news or important events (like elections) that affect us all?

 

Depends. Some people seriously do have more important things to worry about. Get to know them and see what those things might be. If it is about nailpolish, shoes, and figuring out where to get their Brazilian wax job... um, yea, next 'em... If they've been holding down a job AND going to school AND trying to maintain relationships with friends/family... you could probably cut 'em some slack.

 

I've always been interested in current events.. but I didn't become seriously invested in politics, etc until after I finished college.

 

3. Is it me or does it seem that men generally follow politics way more than women? And because of this I notice more guys are interested in economics and social issues. It would seem to me that there are more women than men who simply go along in their life not caring about what makes life the way it is...or if they have complaints about certain aspects of society, theres more women than men who dont educate themselves on ways to change it.

 

Word up... take a look around LS. Alot of men don't give a damn about what's rolling around inside a woman's brain... Not only do they not care... alot of them consider it unfeminine for a woman to chat up current events/politics... especially if it doesn't align with the guy's point of view.

 

You would probably be surprised to know that I would seriously consider nexting any guy who voted for George W. Bush twice.

Edited September 7, 2012 by RedRobin

[RedRobin]

... and I sincerely hope most of you are live-streaming the Convention...