SushiX Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 After the woman I loved left me, I felt the need to go out and have sex with as many women as possible. And I honestly tell them that I just want sex and nothing more. Some give it up and some don't. The ones that give it up often end up wanting a relationship with me, but I'm still having too much fun. They cry, think I'm disgusting, and some won't leave me alone. But what is so wrong with a person who just wants to play the field and have sex with as many women as possible?
Quiet Storm Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 As long as you are honest, I don't think there is anything wrong with it. If you are leading women on, and making them feel like they are the only one, and that you want a relationship, for the sole purpose of getting in their pants, that's wrong. I think that the honorable thing to do is to be upfront about your intentions. Even if you do that, however, that may not prevent a woman from developing feelings for you. When women orgasm, they release a chemical called oxytocin. It is a bonding hormone that is also released while breastfeeding and helps a women bond to her baby. So this means that a woman may logically know that you don't want more, but her hormones are causing her to go in a different direction. It is just a natural feeling for women to have. You should be understanding of that. Even if you tell them up front, they may not anticipate the feelings that will result from the sex.
january2011 Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Because some people believe in quality over quantity. It's your life to f' up as you like. But f' ing up someone else's life as a result of your "burn everything in sight" behaviour is considered repulsive and irresponsible in some circles. 2
Badsingularity Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Most women don't like guys who lie to them.
ThaWholigan Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 It's not necessarily players who get frowned upon (although there are many who don't care for promiscuity of either gender). It's the liars, cheaters and users who are frowned upon. As long as you're honest and transparent in your interactions, you're probably not hurting anyone. Although you might want to think about being no more than only moderately good in bed - orgasms will probably keep the women coming back . I kid.... Believe it or not, being a player and being a lying, cheating, using bastard is not always in direct relation to each other. I know guys who are honest about their escapades at all times and still manage to attract women. Occasionally they get the ones who want to lock them down. It's an unfortunate side effect I'd imagine. And they usually do settle down, when they meet their match .
Author SushiX Posted September 1, 2012 Author Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) As long as you are honest, I don't think there is anything wrong with it. If you are leading women on, and making them feel like they are the only one, and that you want a relationship, for the sole purpose of getting in their pants, that's wrong. I think that the honorable thing to do is to be upfront about your intentions. Even if you do that, however, that may not prevent a woman from developing feelings for you. When women orgasm, they release a chemical called oxytocin. It is a bonding hormone that is also released while breastfeeding and helps a women bond to her baby. So this means that a woman may logically know that you don't want more, but her hormones are causing her to go in a different direction. It is just a natural feeling for women to have. You should be understanding of that. Even if you tell them up front, they may not anticipate the feelings that will result from the sex. I'm not going to lie, I do lead them on and tell them that they're the only one because I want to get laid. How else am I going to get laid? Women aren't just going to sleep with any guy unless she's drunk or promiscuous. And I certainly don't want to pay for sex. Edited September 1, 2012 by SushiX
ThaWholigan Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 I'm not going to lie, I do lead them on and tell them that they're the only one because I want to get laid. How else am I going to get laid? Women aren't just going to sleep with any guy unless she's drunk or promiscuous. And I certainly don't want to pay for sex. And that is why players get frowned upon. The dishonest ones anyway. 2
Author SushiX Posted September 1, 2012 Author Posted September 1, 2012 I'm pretty sure you are bsing. Women today enjoy casual sex as much as men do. The whole "player" thing is a myth anyways. At least in terms of having to be deceitful to score. Unless you're hitting on high school girls. If you have to lie to get laid, that's pretty sad...and a lot of work, I imagine. I agree that women enjoy casual sex as much as men do, but they won't come out and say it because they don't want to be seen as slutty. And everyone lies sometimes my friend. Sometimes you have to in order to get what you want. It's often easier than the truth. How do you think a woman would react if I told her I'm just leading her on and just want to use her for sex. I wouldn't get laid and she would be a waste of my time.
espec10001 Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 I agree that women enjoy casual sex as much as men do, but they won't come out and say it because they don't want to be seen as slutty. And everyone lies sometimes my friend. Sometimes you have to in order to get what you want. It's often easier than the truth. How do you think a woman would react if I told her I'm just leading her on and just want to use her for sex. I wouldn't get laid and she would be a waste of my time. Or they don't want to get pregnant or worry about getting pregnant. That's why many girls will go crazy on you once they find out you used them for sex. Playing with fire, my friend
johan Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 I've tried to seduce women in the first hours after meeting them. But then I always wanted to turn it into something real afterwards. My mistake, of course. But I never really tried to just use someone as masturbatory tool. I always tried to connect with what was sweet and likable about them and hoped to keep the connection going. I think you should be prepared for people to look down on your behavior, because they know that every night of cheap sex, many times based on deception, whether you're deceiving each other or yourselves, just adds one more bit of shallowness and negativity to the world. It might feel good, but I can't see how it can make you or her feel proud of yourselves. It seems like it's more often just done as a way to express some smoldering anger you can't get out otherwise. You're just inflicting it on whichever somewhat attractive woman seems receptive. And she's probably taking your advances as some kind of proof that she can really have value to a man and get affection, ignoring the fact that in a matter of hours she'll have to face the fact that it didn't mean anything at all. And she's still at ground zero. That, along with every other negative experience at the hands of harmless, "honest" players, will stay with her and come out when she meets a guy who wants something real. And however much that guy gets jerked around will stay with him and come out when he meets a woman who wants something real. And so on. You justify it because so many who went before you justified it to themselves. So you just parrot their arguments. In your heart, you know that people are not supposed to treat that kind of intimacy like it's nothing. But what the hell. The consequences will just be spread thinly all over the world, so no one person will be hurt too much. So, yeah, have another shot and scan the room. 4
Author SushiX Posted September 1, 2012 Author Posted September 1, 2012 I've tried to seduce women in the first hours after meeting them. But then I always wanted to turn it into something real afterwards. My mistake, of course. But I never really tried to just use someone as masturbatory tool. I always tried to connect with what was sweet and likable about them and hoped to keep the connection going. I think you should be prepared for people to look down on your behavior, because they know that every night of cheap sex, many times based on deception, whether you're deceiving each other or yourselves, just adds one more bit of shallowness and negativity to the world. It might feel good, but I can't see how it can make you or her feel proud of yourselves. It seems like it's more often just done as a way to express some smoldering anger you can't get out otherwise. You're just inflicting it on whichever somewhat attractive woman seems receptive. And she's probably taking your advances as some kind of proof that she can really have value to a man and get affection, ignoring the fact that in a matter of hours she'll have to face the fact that it didn't mean anything at all. And she's still at ground zero. That, along with every other negative experience at the hands of harmless, "honest" players, will stay with her and come out when she meets a guy who wants something real. And however much that guy gets jerked around will stay with him and come out when he meets a woman who wants something real. And so on. You justify it because so many who went before you justified it to themselves. So you just parrot their arguments. In your heart, you know that people are not supposed to treat that kind of intimacy like it's nothing. But what the hell. The consequences will just be spread thinly all over the world, so no one person will be hurt too much. So, yeah, have another shot and scan the room. Well, I'm not going to do this for the rest of my life. I'm sure it's just a phase. I do like being in a relationship. I guess I'm doing this to get over the hurt from my ex.
johan Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Well, I'm not going to do this for the rest of my life. I'm sure it's just a phase. I do like being in a relationship. I guess I'm doing this to get over the hurt from my ex. Absolutely. You can't do it if you don't rationalize it. 2
Tea Leaf Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Guys like you are why women like me are afraid of men regardless of whether they act kind or crude. 1
RedRobin Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 I think you should be prepared for people to look down on your behavior, because they know that every night of cheap sex, many times based on deception, whether you're deceiving each other or yourselves, just adds one more bit of shallowness and negativity to the world. It might feel good, but I can't see how it can make you or her feel proud of yourselves. It seems like it's more often just done as a way to express some smoldering anger you can't get out otherwise. You're just inflicting it on whichever somewhat attractive woman seems receptive. And she's probably taking your advances as some kind of proof that she can really have value to a man and get affection, ignoring the fact that in a matter of hours she'll have to face the fact that it didn't mean anything at all. And she's still at ground zero. That, along with every other negative experience at the hands of harmless, "honest" players, will stay with her and come out when she meets a guy who wants something real. And however much that guy gets jerked around will stay with him and come out when he meets a woman who wants something real. And so on. You justify it because so many who went before you justified it to themselves. So you just parrot their arguments. In your heart, you know that people are not supposed to treat that kind of intimacy like it's nothing. But what the hell. The consequences will just be spread thinly all over the world, so no one person will be hurt too much. So, yeah, have another shot and scan the room. ... posted for emphasis. Pretty much the reason I don't get involved with people who have had lots of casual sex. Someone usually gets hurt... and the people who like to claim noone does... or they had it coming... or they were honest and if the other person got hurt it's their problem... blah blah.. ...just seem very un self-aware and careless in the big scheme of things... OTOH... since OP is a guy... I suppose that he will have no problems finding a nice young lady to settle down with once he puts his mind to it... Provided the OP can muster up the necessary feelings of 'regret' and make the woman feel she is 'special'... blah blah. 1
RedRobin Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Guys like you are why women like me are afraid of men regardless of whether they act kind or crude. You don't need to be afraid. Just ask hard questions, see if their actions line up with their words, and push aside men who do or have done with the OP claims to be doing. That is all it takes to avoid the players. Edited September 1, 2012 by RedRobin 1
yongyong Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 So are you going to sit down and cry like a damn loser? you need to spit out some game. you don't think so? you are talking to sales person. he seems bit nervous and doesn't talk fluently. he is not aggressive at all and let you make a decision. would you buy from this guy? Most people would buy from other sales who knows how to talk even though he is bit 'dirtier'. that's the reality. Am I talking B.S? go talk to women in library without any preparation (you should talk to attractive one not some fat nasty one) obviously, you won't talk smooth and she will look at you like a creeper. so how can you learn game? by reading some ****??? Or actually approaching women??? if you approach women enough, the sex will come. Now you are born to f-ck females. are you going to refuse to have sex with them unless you are going to marry her??? This is America. every girl starts playing with dicks at age of 15. get real. Guys like you are why women like me are afraid of men regardless of whether they act kind or crude.
Taramere Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Well, I'm not going to do this for the rest of my life. I'm sure it's just a phase. I do like being in a relationship. I guess I'm doing this to get over the hurt from my ex. Well don't forget that just because you compartmentalise a part of your life as a phase, it doesn't mean that other people who've witnessed that behaviour will. 3
Ninjainpajamas Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 I'm not going to lie, I do lead them on and tell them that they're the only one because I want to get laid. How else am I going to get laid? Women aren't just going to sleep with any guy unless she's drunk or promiscuous. And I certainly don't want to pay for sex. This is a problem SushiX, you cannot go around "breaking young girls hearts..yeeeee!" as Michael Jackson puts it. If you're telling women they're the only one then how do you think that makes them feel? you have to avoid thinking about it right? you have to turn a blind eye to what you're really saying and doing because you want that vagina and nothing is going to stop you from getting it. Look, you're not a villain or a extremely bad guy or anything...ALL men lie at some point in their lives and to some degree with women to them into bed, every man can act noble in front of the eyes and ears of women...I know what you're thinking when a woman is just looking at you, wanting you to say those magic words that shows her you are taken by her, It's not like they're making it difficult to be taken advantage of, but it doesn't mean you should do it, have some self-control...and I get that's why you do it, but you've got to avoid that...you've got to respect yourself and them more than lowering yourself to that level of taking advantage of them. You don't need to lie to these women to get what you want believe it or not, and that's a good and bad thing for you to recognize. Good for you because you'll have hope you can still get laid and take advantage of what you need without consequences and bad because you'll feel like that gives you a license to kill and not respect anyone's emotions. Remember one thing though, there is always consequences in one form or another, so don't act surprised when It's time to pay for them. Plenty of men out there take advantage of women, don't say a peep or at least make it publicly known and then settle down with a nice woman at the end of the day after they've had their fill or fun. Don't think that this isn't uncommon, every man twists this crap around even to themselves just like you are rationalizing it to yourself. There is no consequences in that respect. However, the more you engage in this behavior the real consequence is you forget what's important and what is of value...you become used to and conditioned to taking women and their emotions for granted. And then you become conditioned to not having to emotionally invest and give more into a relationship, you consequently become the person who is afraid of being vulnerable because how do you know someone isn't lying to you? you become a manifestation of your own fears because of what you have done, and you don't know how to invest. You may see this as a phase but it does resonate to something deeper...you do need these women more than just sexual intimacy even though I'm sure a lot of it is sexually driven. You'll need to some day ask yourself why you need this and what you get out of it other than the sex. Sex is more physical for men, but more emotional and psychological for women. Have some values set for yourself to live up to, have some higher expectations, don't settle for having to lie to get what you want. If you're dooping these women into sleeping with you because you're telling them you're all into them and love them then you're not going to be too happy If you find yourself in their shoes one day with someone you really have strong emotions for....If you haven't already, maybe that makes it easier for you to do? Some women enjoy and are capable of casual sex, but once you take it past a certain level and degree they're all going to want a relationship. Save yourself the trouble because It doesn't matter what you say, women are wired to want a relationship and become emotional If you keep sleeping with them, IF you want to just have casual sex you're going to have to keep moving from woman to woman. Worry about STD's, getting someone pregnant, and how those close to you will view you for living this type of lifestyle. 1
Greznog Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Because women view sex as a cash money investment, if they don't get at least a meal out of it they feel robbed.
ThaWholigan Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Because women view sex as a cash money investment, if they don't get at least a meal out of it they feel robbed. BS. I got 2 BJs and a shag for the grand total investment of £0
joystickd Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 After the woman I loved left me, I felt the need to go out and have sex with as many women as possible. And I honestly tell them that I just want sex and nothing more. Some give it up and some don't. The ones that give it up often end up wanting a relationship with me, but I'm still having too much fun. They cry, think I'm disgusting, and some won't leave me alone. But what is so wrong with a person who just wants to play the field and have sex with as many women as possible? Nothing. Honestly the biggest problem is the male view of sex. Women want men to view sex and intimacy the way they do. If you do it just be honest about it and if they cry and think you are disgusting then its their problem because you let them know what the deal was and if they still hang around then they have to deal with the consequences of it. I look at players as people on the low end of the spectrum of successful men. To me it works like this 1. Pimps- financial based interactions with women 2. Macks- the inbetween area they get money from women but are not making them go out and sell themselves. They like women and have sex with women. 3. Player- sex based interactions with women. I think the goal of most normal men is to reach the Mack level. Pimpin is a different thing but there are some ideas they have that are applicable to dating.
joystickd Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 BS. I got 2 BJs and a shag for the grand total investment of £0 I have had no investment in my experiences. Hell I have had some give me money 1
SmileFace Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Because women view sex as a cash money investment, if they don't get at least a meal out of it they feel robbed. ****, I am missing more than a couple free meals. Stupid me - enjoying sex for my own enjoyment. 2
joystickd Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Guys like you are why women like me are afraid of men regardless of whether they act kind or crude. There are women that love the challenge of players. It may not be all. To the women that claim they know how to recognize a player some think a thirsty horn dog is a player. A true to the game role playing player could come and knock her socks off because she couldn't spot him out. Its the same way most men can't spot out true to the game golddiggers. It because most people think of them in stereotypical terms and the reality is the most successful one do things that are counterintuitive.
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