threebyfate Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Far in terms of?Are you tipping your hand that you're running game?
Author MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 For your first question...I don't know why she answered, responded, then stopped. Too many possible answers and it really isn't worth your time to try and figure out why.[/Quote] I'm not losing sleep over it, she's online for a reason. Probably has personality flaws. It's just weird is all. She could have just as easily ignored my message instead of engaging me. For your offline example...again, I don't have enough info, but one possible explanation is that she was seeing someone else at the same time she was seeing you, it got serious with the other guy and she didn't want to complicate things and figured it would be best to just ignore you. It's kind of a BS thing to do...but even I've done that a couple times when I was younger...sometimes you just don't want to bother with any drama. She's not seeing anybody new, that I know. What makes no sense is we're both the same major, and we go back to school in a week. Why blow me off out of nowhere when you have to see me in person from at least september to december?
Author MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Are you tipping your hand that you're running game? Am I making it obvious that I'm gaming them? No. I don't game. I let things flow naturally. If I get vibes that you like me, I'll ask you out. I don't use canned material or one liners or do anything the PUA teaches you to use.
AlexCross Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Let's say you and a guy/gal you fancy are really hitting it off. Both of you are showing interest and everything goes smoothly. Of course, this doesn't last, and the person goes cold. Do you let them slip through the cracks just like that? Under the belief that "if they were truly interested they would contact me", or do you try to salvage it in the event that that person is playing the same waiting game you are? I'm sure my pride/stubbornness has ruined situations where if I stuck around long enough, I could have made something doing. I could have swallowed my pride and said "screw it, I'll initiate contact", and try and reignite the fire, but more often than not I just say "they don't want to contact me? **** them then" Although, a part of me is always curious as to why some people just go cold for no reason, and ruin the good thing we had going. Good thread. Absolutely. I think if I contact someone after things are going fairly well and don't hear back from them, why should i contact them again? I feel like my pride gets in the way. But I dont want to be that guy who texts when possibly the texts are unwanted if that makes sense.
KungFuJoe Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I'm not losing sleep over it, she's online for a reason. Probably has personality flaws. It's just weird is all. She could have just as easily ignored my message instead of engaging me. She's not seeing anybody new, that I know. What makes no sense is we're both the same major, and we go back to school in a week. Why blow me off out of nowhere when you have to see me in person from at least september to december? The truth is a LOT of people don't make any freakin sense and lack even the most basic of communication skills. I don't know how old you are, but eventually, you will be THANKFUL for the ones that show their "weirdness" up front, like this chick is apparently doing. She just saved you the potential mess of actually dating her and finding out she's incept socially after you've built some actual feelings for her. These people that just blow off other people and don't seem to give a ****...aren't worth a **** themselves. Especially when it's combined with the fact that you will be seeing them again and just how are they going to explain themselves? These people are incapable of seeing anything past their nose. You are better off without them. Again, I'm making assumptions that you guys were at least friends or at least socially friendly with each other.
Author MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 The truth is a LOT of people don't make any freakin sense and lack even the most basic of communication skills. I don't know how old you are, but eventually, you will be THANKFUL for the ones that show their "weirdness" up front, like this chick is apparently doing. She just saved you the potential mess of actually dating her and finding out she's incept socially after you've built some actual feelings for her. These people that just blow off other people and don't seem to give a ****...aren't worth a **** themselves. Especially when it's combined with the fact that you will be seeing them again and just how are they going to explain themselves? These people are incapable of seeing anything past their nose. You are better off without them. Again, I'm making assumptions that you guys were at least friends or at least socially friendly with each other. That's how I feel. They're saving me a lot of future problems. Still sucks when you meet people who suck socially. This girl and I had an awesome connection as we always did, on a Tuesday. That Thursday I said "Hey!", and she never got back to me. Ball is in her court. It's been a month so I guess she's made her decision. I have too much pride to initiate contact and find out what happened. I've also lost all interest because of her behavior. I have to see her in 7 days.
Titanwolf Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) pulling down your pants and bending over is for homo sex. anyways, you sound like 'trying hard alpha male' what would you do in this situation. She flakes out on first date. would you bend over bit by saying no worries or will you stop talking to her? (if a guy does that, there is a good chance you won't see her again since American women put their ego first before cocks) She ignores your txts sometimes and responds it late. Will you just walk away? She tells you she is busy this weekend and maybe she could hangout next weekend. she asks you to contact her to check availability. would you listen to her instruction? I assure you that I'm not "trying" to be anything. My mother and Father raised me to be this way . I'm in the UK though. If she flaked, but with a genuine reason and made an honest effort re-schedule, then I could accept that. As for text, well this is actually how it used to go: Me *Text her*, Her *Text me back the next day at an ungodly hour, with no excuse*, Me *Don't text her again. Ever* and then eventually, she'll make an effort to call me and "see how I'm doing". I don't do it to spite people, I just don't like being led around on a leash like an oblivious dog. If this girl was just an acquaintance, I'd delete her number. The people who know me, knows I can't stand people ******* around, especially with dates. As long as they're genuine (and I can tell) I don't forget they exist. It sounds harsh I know . I have to also mention that I have no desire to seek out vagina, so I assure you that I'm not playing mind games. Edited August 29, 2012 by Titanwolf
yongyong Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 I understand what you are trying to say. maybe culture is different in UK? girls don't play mind games? So let's say you had a date and this girl flaked out with some lame excuses OR she just ignored your txt when you asked her to hang out. Now you made a thread about this saying you can't let people walk over you like that and you think you should just ignore her. Do you know what people are going to say? They are going to say you are too sensitive, desperate, you should just brush it off and maybe contact her several days later to see what's up. This is American Culture. I met this chick at singles event. we kissed on first night and exchanged number. we were talking about meeting following weekend but she stopped txting. that weekend had gone by. Out of blue, she sent me txt saying we could hangout next weekend blah blah. I just told her that should work and didn't follow up. (I deleted her number after exchanging txt. I was only going to hangout if she txts me first) that was end of it. I didn't hear from her. maybe I should've told her fxck off to keep my pride......maybe this bitch had too much pride and she couldn't txt me first asking about the plan?......... I assure you that I'm not "trying" to be anything. My mother and Father raised me to be this way . I'm in the UK though. If she flaked, but with a genuine reason and made an honest effort re-schedule, then I could accept that. As for text, well this is actually how it used to go: Me *Text her*, Her *Text me back the next day at an ungodly hour, with no excuse*, Me *Don't text her again. Ever* and then eventually, she'll make an effort to call me and "see how I'm doing". I don't do it to spite people, I just don't like being led around on a leash like an oblivious dog. If this girl was just an acquaintance, I'd delete her number. The people who know me, knows I can't stand people ******* around, especially with dates. As long as they're genuine (and I can tell) I don't forget they exist. It sounds harsh I know . I have to also mention that I have no desire to seek out vagina, so I assure you that I'm not playing mind games. 1
mortensorchid Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Our egos get in the way of a lot of things in life. We may say that we are selfless, but it's really not. If someone is not interested in you, it's hard to accept but if they're not then they're not and that's that. You can't make someone like you, you can't make them do or say the right things, but we have free will. Life goes on.
TheFinalWord Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) She's not seeing anybody new, that I know. What makes no sense is we're both the same major, and we go back to school in a week. Why blow me off out of nowhere when you have to see me in person from at least september to december? I had the same thing happen to me some time ago. She was seeing someone else the whole time. I just did not know it. She was the one that reached out to me and acted interested at first. Then, dead air. I thought the same thing. Okay, we will be seeing each other every week for months. But she literally would not talk to me the entire two classes we had together either; I did nothing to her and actually helped her in many ways prior. I even lowered my pride and tried to communicate with her twice b/c I don't like to leave unresolved issues especially when nothing major has happened (if she didn't like me anymore a simple explanation saying so would have sufficed and we could have remained friends, I'm a big boy and you aren't all that lol). Instead, nothing. I walked by her and said "hi"; she replied "hey" very cold. I tried to e-mail her and tell her some info, no reply. So there you go. For some women I have found that when they are no longer into you, but they think you are a good guy, they can't face you to tell you. Instead, these types will just ignore. Childish to me, but nothing can be done. Like someone else said, this is a character flaw that they are doing you a favor in showing early on. Hope it works out for you, but thought I'd share my experience. Edited August 30, 2012 by TheFinalWord 1
Titanwolf Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 I'm going to avoid generalizing, but in my experience, I've found the women (in London) to be very laid back in regards to "dating". I've only encountered one lass who insisted playing mind games, but overall, I rarely have to analyze a situation in depth, because I hardly ever need to with these women (maybe it's the women I'm pursuing, who knows?). It's true, they would tell me I'm being sensitive, but that's why I don't post things like that here. They don't understand the way I operate, the type of woman I'm dealing with, or the situation in it's entirety. The situation you described is a piss take tbh. I'd feel very "weak" and "pathetic" if I allowed a woman to mess me around like that. However, I understand that everyone is nurtured differently, so I expect few to empathize with my sentiments I understand what you are trying to say. maybe culture is different in UK? girls don't play mind games? So let's say you had a date and this girl flaked out with some lame excuses OR she just ignored your txt when you asked her to hang out. Now you made a thread about this saying you can't let people walk over you like that and you think you should just ignore her. Do you know what people are going to say? They are going to say you are too sensitive, desperate, you should just brush it off and maybe contact her several days later to see what's up. This is American Culture. I met this chick at singles event. we kissed on first night and exchanged number. we were talking about meeting following weekend but she stopped txting. that weekend had gone by. Out of blue, she sent me txt saying we could hangout next weekend blah blah. I just told her that should work and didn't follow up. (I deleted her number after exchanging txt. I was only going to hangout if she txts me first) that was end of it. I didn't hear from her. maybe I should've told her fxck off to keep my pride......maybe this bitch had too much pride and she couldn't txt me first asking about the plan?.........
Emilia Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 That was one example. There have been several real world ones with the same premise and ending. One girl was super into me, initiating contact, always flirty answers, then one day, boom. I texted her a hello when we were on really, really good terms, she never replied. I haven't heard from her in a month. I think you wait too long to ask them out. It's just an impression I get from your posts. When you are after outgoing, confident girls they won't wait around for long.
mickleb Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Do you have an easily traceable online prescence? People can Googlestalk and find out stuff they can judge you on very easily, you know. May explain the longer-term vanishees. The example you gave above, or anything lasting less that a couple of months, could be explained by a million and one reasons - most likely being they felt they had better options.
Author MrCastle Posted August 30, 2012 Author Posted August 30, 2012 I think you wait too long to ask them out. It's just an impression I get from your posts. When you are after outgoing, confident girls they won't wait around for long. As far as online goes, perhaps. In real life, not at all. I've been told to slow it down on more than one occasion. I escalate things very quickly in real life. So that's not the problem. As far as I can tell, and I'm extremely self aware, it's not me. It's them. Like someone above posted earlier, some people are just very socially inept. Especially in this technological age, people have short attention spans and lack basic communication skills. This thread, for the most part, is not to analyze what I'm doing, but to figure out what they're doing.
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