MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Now why does society place such a high value on the upper percentile of physical attractiveness? What exactly is it about physical attractiveness that so appealing to human beings? For example, why do guys high five each other for sleeping with the hottest girl at the bar? Why do women gush over the new hot guy at work? Because you feel a sense of accomplishment. I think it validates you in some way. Or a lot of people use it for validation. I had an interesting theory I was going to make a thread about but didn't know how successful it would be. It's pretty radical. Basically, in my experience, the hardest girls to land are the middle of the pack girls. Not hideous, not model types. Average. If you're a numbers guy, let's call them 7-8's...mid to high average girls. A lot of these girls don't know where they stand in the looks department. They know they're not ugly, but how hot are they really? A lot of them set unrealistic standards for the men they date. They figure, hey if I can land myself a male model, then I must be a model too! If I can get a 10, then I must be a 10! Whereas, I've had success with a few gorgeous women. Women that you stay up at night thinking "How the ****...how did I do this?" My theory is because those women know they're gorgeous. They've known their whole life. They don't need the male model, because they know they can have him whenever they want. They realize their ranking in the physical attractiveness food chain. It's the average girls I've found the most difficult. It's a radical theory, but in my personal experience, this is what happens. I get shot down by the average ones and the most beautiful ones end up falling for me. What a world.
Author USMCHokie Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 1. Body/facial symmetry displays great genetic health. Does it though...? Or has society conditioned us to believe this and justify our desire for attractiveness so as to not be perceived as shallow? Did only the most facially symmetric cavemen survive...? 2. An appearance of being physically fit can also appear healthy and strong to both provide and prosper. As well as to pass on said ability. 3. Attractive fashion sense can display social adeptness and material wealth. 4. Good hygeine is also a sign of health and lower risk of exposure to germs. These are all traits that can be had without physical attractiveness... As I type this common sense stuff, I really have to ask if this is for real?!? I mean just look at the opposite: Would you want to procreate with someone that smelled of vomit, slouched, hid in the corner of the room, was dressed in horrific garb, and had the facial features of a kaleidoscope? I think it's common sense because we take it for granted...I'm just curious as to the underlying rationale that we don't take the time to think about...
Author USMCHokie Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Why do you want hot girls Hokie? This is what I'm trying to figure out...
PJKino Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I can see why its "desirable" we like thigns that look nice but as a society we go way too far and act as if these people are superior for a trait they really has nothing to do with in creating
Author USMCHokie Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Because you feel a sense of accomplishment. I think it validates you in some way. Or a lot of people use it for validation. I had an interesting theory I was going to make a thread about but didn't know how successful it would be. It's pretty radical. Basically, in my experience, the hardest girls to land are the middle of the pack girls. Not hideous, not model types. Average. If you're a numbers guy, let's call them 7-8's...mid to high average girls. A lot of these girls don't know where they stand in the looks department. They know they're not ugly, but how hot are they really? A lot of them set unrealistic standards for the men they date. They figure, hey if I can land myself a male model, then I must be a model too! If I can get a 10, then I must be a 10! Whereas, I've had success with a few gorgeous women. Women that you stay up at night thinking "How the ****...how did I do this?" My theory is because those women know they're gorgeous. They've known their whole life. They don't need the male model, because they know they can have him whenever they want. They realize their ranking in the physical attractiveness food chain. It's the average girls I've found the most difficult. It's a radical theory, but in my personal experience, this is what happens. I get shot down by the average ones and the most beautiful ones end up falling for me. What a world. I agree with this 100%, and I had been formulating something very similar to it that relates to "league" theory. We date in order to discover which "league" we fall into...which is consistent with the notion that people pair up with others of similar levels of attractiveness. When we find that level of attractiveness that accepts our own level of attractiveness, we tend to stay there, as success will inevitably breed confidence at that level. When one doesn't quite solidify his perception of his own league, it often leads to GIGS...where he will wonder if he's playing in the right league, so to speak...
MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I can see why its "desirable" we like thigns that look nice but as a society we go way too far and act as if these people are superior for a trait they really has nothing to do with in creating Yeah that's my problem with it too. The world is ****ed up. Don't they get enough breaks as it is? They're gorgeous. It's like award shows that give out free gift baskets to celebs backstage, with laptops and ipods and ****. Really? THEY'RE the ones who need that stuff? They couldn't buy it on their own? This culture we live in where people who have advantages get beneficial treatment is insane.
MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I agree with this 100%, and I had been formulating something very similar to it that relates to "league" theory. We date in order to discover which "league" we fall into...which is consistent with the notion that people pair up with others of similar levels of attractiveness. When we find that level of attractiveness that accepts our own level of attractiveness, we tend to stay there, as success will inevitably breed confidence at that level. When one doesn't quite solidify his perception of his own league, it often leads to GIGS...where he will wonder if he's playing in the right league, so to speak... Oh I very much believe a big part of why we go after the people we do is to validate to ourselves that we belong in that league.
threebyfate Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Why is the sky blue?Technically, this aligns with the evo-ladder crap that's flooded the Internet that women want hot men because they use them as trophies to prove their own attractiveness. How it aligns is that the sky is only blue because it's a reflection of the ocean. 1
Citizen Erased Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Technically, this aligns with the evo-ladder crap that's flooded the Internet that women want hot men because they use them as trophies to prove their own attractiveness. How it aligns is that the sky is only blue because it's a reflection of the ocean. Great! Now what came first, the chicken or the egg?
Author USMCHokie Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Technically, this aligns with the evo-ladder crap that's flooded the Internet that women want hot men because they use them as trophies to prove their own attractiveness. Why do women find hot men desirable...?
threebyfate Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Great! Now what came first, the chicken or the egg?According to the evo-ladder crap, the chicken. This is because eggs come from females, thus must be subordinate to the chicken.
jobaba Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 It's pretty easy. Society brainwashes us into believing what is attractive and then that image stimulates our urge to reproduce. I was at a Taco Bell the other day in Long Island and there was this young girl behind me in line. Couldn't have been more than 20, probably closer to 17. She was all that the women who were 17 and couldn't get any guys hoped to be at that age... Young, white, slim but curvy, perfect for guys of all heights at 5'4", tanned with cute face, nice highlighted wavy hair. Neatly dressed with a tight fitting Banana Republic style ensemble ... sexy, but not slutty. Every guy there would have picked her over the slightly obese older Latina woman that rang up my order. But what if you locked a guy up in a closet or threw him in a jungle amongst the animals for 17 years? Would he pick her? I'd say not necessarily if outright no. Physical attractiveness is a evolutionary process that is influenced by media, our own attractiveness, our race and ethnicity, and personalities.
threebyfate Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Why do women find hot men desirable...?Do you want my honest opinion or evo-ladder b/s?
PJKino Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Because you feel a sense of accomplishment. I think it validates you in some way. Or a lot of people use it for validation. I had an interesting theory I was going to make a thread about but didn't know how successful it would be. It's pretty radical. Basically, in my experience, the hardest girls to land are the middle of the pack girls. Not hideous, not model types. Average. If you're a numbers guy, let's call them 7-8's...mid to high average girls. A lot of these girls don't know where they stand in the looks department. They know they're not ugly, but how hot are they really? A lot of them set unrealistic standards for the men they date. They figure, hey if I can land myself a male model, then I must be a model too! If I can get a 10, then I must be a 10! Whereas, I've had success with a few gorgeous women. Women that you stay up at night thinking "How the ****...how did I do this?" My theory is because those women know they're gorgeous. They've known their whole life. They don't need the male model, because they know they can have him whenever they want. They realize their ranking in the physical attractiveness food chain. It's the average girls I've found the most difficult. It's a radical theory, but in my personal experience, this is what happens. I get shot down by the average ones and the most beautiful ones end up falling for me. What a world. Add in the fact a women thats at that level and kind of cute probably has no problem getting sex from 9 and 10's so it inflates her ego a little and makes her beleive shes in that league Some women finally realize therye just being used by those guys others live in a fantasy world and actually believe they were in a relationship while the guy probably couldnt pick then out of a lineup after a few weeks goes by
Author USMCHokie Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Do you want my honest opinion or evo-ladder b/s? Whatever you believe.
threebyfate Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Whatever you believe.Women want hot men because they want into their pants. Occam's razor. 1
MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Add in the fact a women thats at that level and kind of cute probably has no problem getting sex from 9 and 10's so it inflates her ego a little and makes her beleive shes in that league Some women finally realize therye just being used by those guys others live in a fantasy world and actually believe they were in a relationship while the guy probably couldnt pick then out of a lineup after a few weeks goes by Yeah that's the other part of it. I think social media has inflated the egos of women. Hell, some men too. They get all these facebook likes and comments, and texts and think "Oh I'm soo hot! I could land a 10!" So they reject guys in their own league, not realizing they themselves are in said league, get pumped and dumped by a guy who's in a higher league, complain that there's no good men around etc etc. The cycle just goes on and on
Author USMCHokie Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Women want hot men because they want into their pants. Occam's razor. Who is "they" and "their"...? I just want to make sure I'm reading it as you intend.
threebyfate Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Who is "they" and "their"...? I just want to make sure I'm reading it as you intend.Women want into hot male pants. EOM. 1
GLDheart Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 ... the sky is only blue because it's a reflection of the ocean. no. that's not right at all.
Author USMCHokie Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Women want into hot male pants. EOM. But what makes woman want to get into hot male pants more than not-so-hot male pants...? Do hot guys provide a better sexual experience?
threebyfate Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 But what makes woman want to get into hot male pants more than not-so-hot male pants...? Do hot guys provide a better sexual experience?For women, sexual attraction begins and remains in the mind. The more attracted, the more aroused. 1
MrCastle Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 For women, sexual attraction begins and remains in the mind. The more attracted, the more aroused. Interesting. So a hot guy who is bad at sex might be able to cover it up with his hotness whereas an average looking partner would be deemed bad in bed?
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