somedude81 Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Ask yourself the same question just be honest, except don't think about your height, unless you are so short you can be classified as a midget then that may be causing issues. Now what other issues do you think could be holding you back? A guy doesn't need to be a midget for his height to negatively affect him. Being a few inches below average is enough to lose major points, that need to be made up through other things. So why do I have trouble with women? I'm a few inches shorter than average And I don't have the necessary characteristics to overcome such a deficiency. I could still be successful with women if I had; lots of money and/or a very outgoing/charming personality and/or extremely high level of confidence (not sure what it would be based on though) and/or a very good sense of humor that always knew what to say to make people laugh. For me a host of things can be holding me back I'm not sure exactly but I feel that I'm somewhat socially inept at times (I'm not retarded just have difficulty in social situations), What do you mean difficulty? Can you give some examples. Also, how old are you? I have a speech impediment, Yeah I got one of those as well, it sucks. Have you tried speech therapy? super nerdy, Work to change that. shy Being shy will definitely hurt you. Though it's something lots of people grow out of, or you have to force yourself to talk in more situations. no relationship experience at all (never even been kissed), I'm the same way, though I've actually kissed one girl, 7 or 8 years ago. A lack of relationship experience doesn't really start to hurt you until you get to be about my age and I have a few minor physical issues as well being my scoliosis, left hand whose fingers do not extend out and the tips for some reason do not work without assistance, I don't know much those things affect you. Do other people notice your issues? somewhat out of shape (most people say I look strong but I could do better), bad skin (working on it). Not really that important unless your obese.
Titanwolf Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 @somedude- I am 5'4 and haven't ever had trouble with women. Theory? I'm gravitating towards a carefree, positive, genuinely passionate nature that alleviates my "handicap" (if you must label it that). 1
Glove_slap Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 if you're fat go do exercises. if you're ugly go put on make up. if you're REALLY ugly then save up and get plastic surgery. if you're short for a girl then wear heels! girls love heels! if you're flat chested, well there are push up bras! but what if you're flat at the back? then go buy Brazillian Butt Lift. Nothing compares to being a short male. NOTHING.
Necris Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 A guy doesn't need to be a midget for his height to negatively affect him. Being a few inches below average is enough to lose major points, that need to be made up through other things. So why do I have trouble with women? I'm a few inches shorter than average And I don't have the necessary characteristics to overcome such a deficiency. I could still be successful with women if I had; lots of money and/or a very outgoing/charming personality and/or extremely high level of confidence (not sure what it would be based on though) and/or a very good sense of humor that always knew what to say to make people laugh. This is what guys like myself and you who do poorly in women need, that magical charisma. I've known people with charisma honestly I don't know how they do it but people just seem to naturally like them, they aren't super good looking or super tall or rich, but somehow they are social geniuses, they do not approach women, women approach them, they can be dropped in nearly any place or situation and will always come out with friends. Even my own father is one of these types of people, unfortunately I haven't learned or inherited that power, I'm not sure if it can even be taught some people just know.
Lonely Ronin Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 You must know some extremely violent women because I've never been bitchslapped. And I have talked with many women for 20-30 minutes. most of the women I know don't take any crap, specially from someone like you. O and by the way it's a figure of speech... really, I wonder what your coworkers would do if they could get away with it without getting fired. you have mentioned before how they treat you poorly, unless you work in an extraordinary environment more than likely they don't like you because of who you are not because they're all b******. I have never cursed at, yelled at or hit a woman, do you think I'm worse than somebody who has? Cause right now, you're making it seem like I'm scum of the Earth. First off don't try and change the subject I know you're not that stupid, you know exactly what I am talking about. you are self absorbed and you think you're entitled to a woman and sex . you blame everything and everyone for your problems because you don't want to own up to the fact that your personality is the problem. truth be told I get the feeling from your posts that you think you're the shi* but everyone is holding you back. you will never had a real relationship as long as you continue with your pig headed ways.
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Originally Posted by O'farrell A cups? fat? ugly? old? none of the above? I'm enjoying the idea that old women might be considered comparable to short men of any age. Who could even entertain such a notion? Whacked, I tell you.
Maeva Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 An under 5'7 guy is roughly equivalent to a 300lb woman. Heh, it's almost as if every inch under 5'10 is equal to 100 lbs. 5'9 guy = no issue. 5'8 = 200 lb woman 5'7 = 300 lb woman 5'6 = 400 lb woman Yup, I'm as hot as a 400lb woman. Go me! Oh, I don't agree. I'm 5'5 and wouldn't have an issue dating a 'short' guy. As long as HE doesn't have an issue with it (and with me wearing heels once in a while). In all honesty, though, I'd prefer he wasn't shorter than me
Surfer203 Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) I can't keep reading these "short" threads... they are ridiculous. Guys, what the F is wrong with you? I am 5'6" recently divorced and I am talking to more women than I can manage, I recently told two of them to hit the road and I still have three I am regularly talking to and could be sleeping with. Only sleeping with one of them currently because I am a gentleman. The height trips me up very slightly, if I was taller I am sure I would have less trouble. But even at my height, I am cleaning up. Short guys, get your s*** together. Hit the gym, HARD. Dress well. Take care of yourself. Be clean always, smell good. Learn to loosen up, learn how to joke and laugh. Get into hobbies deeply. Women love guys who are passionate about something, figure out what that is and go for it. I don't want to see any of you crying your eyes out on here like babies. Get to it, get out there and go get some p****! Be confident! Edited August 28, 2012 by Surfer203 6
Emilia Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 I can't keep reading these "short" threads... they are ridiculous. Guys, what the F is wrong with you? I am 5'6" recently divorced and I am talking to more women than I can manage, I recently told two of them to hit the road and I still have three I am regularly talking to and could be sleeping with. Only sleeping with one of them currently because I am a gentleman. The height trips me up very slightly, if I was taller I am sure I would have less trouble. But even at my height, I am cleaning up. Short guys, get your s*** together. Hit the gym, HARD. Dress well. Take care of yourself. Be clean always, smell good. Learn to loosen up, learn how to joke and laugh. Get into hobbies deeply. Women love guys who are passionate about something, figure out what that is and go for it. I don't want to see any of you crying your eyes out on here like babies. Get to it, get out there and go get some p****! Be confident! Absolutely. This attitude does require taking responsibility for how your life turns out however 3
Surfer203 Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Emilia, exactly. You can't sit back, you have to take a proactive approach and put in effort. If you don't you won't meet anyone ever. And please guys, SMILE and be positive/happy. Don't smile so much you seem psychotic but you need to express an inviting and positive vibe.
Tiera D Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 being short isnt OPs problem,i think its the attitude,i have a male friend who is short and he did better than me in relationships, im 6 ft tall .heck,he is a chick magnet he seduces every chick he passed by with his smooth talk.His trick as i observed seemed to be he is able to show himself to other people that he is a extremely nice person without being a nice guy or a doormat,and thats the correct attitude to getting chicks.OP your life is black and white mind set,you need grey areas,im not insulting you but i used to have your thinking just i realize i had to change TD 1
somedude81 Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 I can't keep reading these "short" threads... they are ridiculous. Guys, what the F is wrong with you? 1. It's common knowledge that women prefer tall men. 2. If a short guy does absolutely horrible with women, what do you think is going to be the first thing he blames? I am 5'6" recently divorced and I am talking to more women than I can manage, I recently told two of them to hit the road and I still have three I am regularly talking to and could be sleeping with. Only sleeping with one of them currently because I am a gentleman. The height trips me up very slightly, if I was taller I am sure I would have less trouble. But even at my height, I am cleaning up. Short guys, get your s*** together. Hit the gym, HARD. Dress well. Take care of yourself. Be clean always, smell good. Learn to loosen up, learn how to joke and laugh. Get into hobbies deeply. Women love guys who are passionate about something, figure out what that is and go for it. I don't want to see any of you crying your eyes out on here like babies. Get to it, get out there and go get some p****! Be confident! It's fantastic that your height isn't an issue to you. Sad thing is, it is for a lot of short men. Tell me this Surfer20, have you ever struggled with women?
Lonely Ronin Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Tell me this Surfer20, have you ever struggled with women? Everyone has, that's the point. They might not have had issues for the same reasons but everyone has had issues with the opposite sex at some point. Your issue is you refuse to own up to the fact that your attitude is the problem. This is how I see you , and I think a lot of other people on LS do as well. Why do some people blame others and claim to be victims 1
Surfer203 Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 somedude81: Of course I've had problems.. it's a confidence thing though and an attitude/personality thing. If you turn these things around you won't have trouble. I have seen some real UGLY guys with beautiful women. I don't know how you look, I'm not judging but height is not the only factor. A GOOD woman is deeper than appearance and shallow stuff believe me. You don't want a woman that doesn't give you the time of day just because of your height. If you are short, be BIG. Act big, have a great open and interesting persona, do exciting things. And... I wasn't trying to brag or build myself up because to be honest it could always be better, just using myself as an example so that others realize we are all capable of finding attractive, good people to be with. Best of luck!
2.50 a gallon Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Somedude It is all in your attitude! Part of your failure is you are always looking for an excuse and blaming shifting your failures on others. That alone is a major turnoff for most women. As you haven't even had a date, but it is all their fault. Why would they want to get invovled with a guy who going to blame them for everything that goes wrong? Me 5'6", scrawny, now that I am retired am finally gaining weight, but before that struggeled to get to 130. From about age 22 until I married at age 35, I was a major player. During the year of my disco days, I bedded at least a 100 women, sometimes two a night. Two of the ladies that I have been with ended up having the photos in the bunny magazine, and another made it to the cover All of my partners were 8 or above, simply because I am incapable of getting sexually excited by anything less. And almost all of them were taller than me. My Ex-W was close to 5' 11", 36 D, 120 pounds, strawberry blonde hair, blue eyes, she was a dozen years younger than me. She proposed to me. In fact I have never proposed to a woman in my life. But as a guess at least 30 have proposed to me One of them was a partner in in a CPA firm, she owned a classic port hole T-Bird and a Datsun 260Z, she hung around for over 6 years, and only married an architect about 6 months after I married. I had keys to all of her cars and her condo. After the breakup of my marriage I again went back to my player days for another dozen years My previous GF was a millionare several times over, and her daddy was worth in the 100's of them. She used to invite me to go on trips to Hawaii, the Bahamas, Cancun, the last being a 10 day trip to Tahiti, all expenses paid. Also she was Mensa intelligent, with degrees in Chemistry, math, from Berkley and a degree in computer science. Had we married, like she wanted her dad was going to foot the bill for a half million dollar down payment on a home for us. My current GF of 17 years, and the love of my life, is not rich, she is 4 inches taller than me, long beautiful legs, gorgeous, and I took her away from a guy who was over 6 feet and looked like Steven Segal And as for being good looking, a guy I worked with had similar body proportions as myself, and hs was stuck with a Gorbachev red spot around one of his eyes. He looked like Petey the dog I think from The Little Rascals. He had all kinds of good looking GF's. And you should see the mother of his kids. She was a hottie dating radio jocks until she met him. As she put it he was such a go getter that 5 minutes after meeting him she forgot all about his large spot.
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 1. It's common knowledge that women prefer tall men. 2. If a short guy does absolutely horrible with women, what do you think is going to be the first thing he blames? Therein lies the rub. Not everybody is looking for something or somebody to blame. That's what makes you lose.
2.50 a gallon Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Yes I had problems. I had to work at attracting women. It began in high school where I was one of the shortest guys in the whole school. My 11 year old sister was taller than me. I began by learning to dance, when it came to fast dances, the bop in those days, only a couple of guys even half way tried. After I learned I practised until I was pretty good. I can still remember that first school dance after I learned to dance. The first couple of girls didn't even say no when I asked them to dance. One just stared at me, and the other looked away. But I didn't give up. And once a gal did say yes, and they saw that I could really dance, all of those who turned me down began to work their way down to where I was hoping that I would ask them I studied women, by just talking and listening to them. One of the keys to attracting a woman is by being different from all of the other guys. As an example, some of the guys where I grew up wore cowboy hats. When a gal give me one, another gal took the feather that was in every hat and through it away and replace it with piece of braided then leather that hung a good 8 inches off the back of the hat. This pissed off some ofthe other guys, but so what, it attracted a lot of women. As one put it, is showed that I had balls to wear it in public I learned photograpy, and had many a session taking great portraits of women. And most of them without their clothes on. That was one of my player lines, that all too soon, age is going to catch up with you so why not get photos of what you look like today, before you get married and have kids. Instead of wasting your time here complaining about you lack of success, spend it learning how to dance. Teaching yourself how to cook something above hamburger helper.
Kofybean Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Like being a very tall girl? In terms of dating, this is the correct answer.
Kofybean Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 somedude81: Of course I've had problems.. it's a confidence thing though and an attitude/personality thing. If you turn these things around you won't have trouble. ... I want to play devils advocate for a moment. Cuz people use the "confidence" word in dating like religion uses the word "faith". If something bad happens to you, like sickness, its because you didn't have enough faith... couldn't possibly be for ANY other reason? And that totally undermines the real problem when people seek help. Just have more faith, and you can overcome the malignent cancer. If someone is seeking help, throwing buzz words around like "confidence" does nothing. How much confidence? In what areas? Confidence is displayed differently among different people. Saying that you must have an arbitrary amount of an intangible item to overcome a physical issue is a weak argument because no matter what happens you just come back and say the person needs more of it. If the only reason men who are short have trouble is a personality/confidence issue and not their height, how is it possible for women to favor the personality and confidence of men they have never met? Are you saying women really aren't attracted to physical traits? Sorry, I just don't like that style of argumentation.
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