sigurpol Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I don't know. Probably the same reason guys have chips on their shoulders. 3
todreaminblue Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Don't they know that it only hurts them? A shield is a shield used for protection against hurt call it bitch call it armor there are normally reasons to wear armor......i have never worn a bitch shield but i do have shields, as a woman, so its all about perception or how men perceive a woman who has been hurt before and maybe doesn't want to get hurt again...even then most women lower theirs at one point or another....deb 1
Author O'farrell Posted August 23, 2012 Author Posted August 23, 2012 A shield is a shield used for protection against hurt call it bitch call it armor there are normally reasons to wear armor......i have never worn a bitch shield but i do have shields, as a woman, so its all about perception or how men perceive a woman who has been hurt before and maybe doesn't want to get hurt again...even then most women lower theirs at one point or another....deb In high school a friend dared me to ask out this really hot girl. She said yes. She also ignored everybody. Upon further getting to know her, I found out she had only one previous boyfriend.
todreaminblue Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 In high school a friend dared me to ask out this really hot girl. She said yes. She also ignored everybody. Upon further getting to know her' date=' I found out she had only one previous boyfriend.[/quote'] Some women use that shield to keep out undesirables and sometimes the shield gets put up and blocks incoming traffic of all types.....Good for you .You must be a special type of guy......its not bad to want a match that coudl last......you were a lucky one obviously...must be a reason for that.....deb
sigurpol Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 In high school a friend dared me to ask out this really hot girl. She said yes. She also ignored everybody. Upon further getting to know her' date=' I found out she had only one previous boyfriend.[/quote'] I hear stories about this or it sometimes serves as an example. But I don't know; I have a hard time generalizing an entire sex from reading A story about someone online.
daphne Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 You sound young. Attractive girls get hounded constantly by guys that they aren't interested in. And it's not just being hit on. It's when you politely decline or indicate that your'e not interested, some will still pester you. So you spend a lot of time saying no to people who won't leave you alone, and you develop a barrier to keep out guys that don't know how to take no for an answer. At my job, for example, I have a handful of guys who will not take a hint. So I go as far as be rude and ignore them and not look at them or even respond, and these guys STILL follow me around. One guy has been asking me to lunch almost every week for 4 months. Last week he said I was going to have to give in at some point and I told him that no, in fact I didn't have to. If you're not getting the shield, you must be doing something right. WOmen that have it only drop it for guys they feel will respect their boundaries. 6
carhill Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Don't they know that it only hurts them? Same reason I hang up on telemarketers. Unwanted invasion of privacy and personal space. I would never compare it to such a 'shield', but I did get annoyed during my M with the way women seemed to be and present themselves as being a bit too 'familiar', as formerly they ignored me pretty much, so enacted a 'marital shield' of sorts to deflect such unwanted attentions. Different scenario but similar impetus, IMO. 2
Untouchable_Fire Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Don't they know that it only hurts them? How does it hurt them? It smashes guys who are not very interested or who have no balls. It makes sure the only guys that get through are more in tune with what they want. It's usually worthwhile to get past that initial frost wall and see how she reacts. If it doesn't come down.... I figure she isn't interested. 1
udolipixie Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Likely some gals have b*tchs hields because: - they don't want to spend loads of time telling undesirable guys no especially when likely those guys won't listen or react violently/negatively - safety concerns ala rape, sexual assault, sexual harassment, and street harassment - it seems many guys think gals are evil souless gold digging b*tches who deserves to be used & abused I highly doubt b*tch shields hurt gals rather than prevent unwanted or unpleasant interactions with guys. Seems the only hurt is when a guy reacts negatively to a gal's disinterest as he expects appreciation and ego placating. 4
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 It's because when most men go up to a woman it's because the guy is up to no good. The shield is to protect them from the abuses (verbal, physical, psychological, etc.) that they would otherwise experience from the vast majority of men.
Taramere Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Don't they know that it only hurts them? Here's an idea. Take a trip to Rome in the height of summer, make sure you have a camera slung around your neck and a wallet sticking out of your pocket. Stand next to the Trevi Fountain and say very loudly "oh how I wish I had a parasol/sun-hat/rose for the lady....if only I could find such a thing." Within about 10 minutes you'll have a good idea of what it's like to be a 14 year old girl....which is probably around the time most women learn that they're going to have to develop a bit of a bitch shield. 4
Feelsgoodman Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) You sound young. Attractive girls get hounded constantly by guys that they aren't interested in. And it's not just being hit on. It's when you politely decline or indicate that your'e not interested, some will still pester you. So you spend a lot of time saying no to people who won't leave you alone, and you develop a barrier to keep out guys that don't know how to take no for an answer. At my job, for example, I have a handful of guys who will not take a hint. So I go as far as be rude and ignore them and not look at them or even respond, and these guys STILL follow me around. One guy has been asking me to lunch almost every week for 4 months. Last week he said I was going to have to give in at some point and I told him that no, in fact I didn't have to. I see where you're coming from. Even though I'm not a woman, I get unwanted attention from members of the opposite sex too. And some of them can be pretty persistent pests. However, that's no excuse for walking around with an expression of perpetual annoyance on your face (which is what a bitch shield basically is). What women fail to understand is that a bitch shied cannot repel undesirable guys...but it WILL turn off desirable ones. Serial womanizers and guys with no self-esteem (like the dude from your work) would hit on you no matter how you carried yourself. Most normal guys, on the other hand, would note your sourpuss expression and think to themselves "meh, she must be bitch; not worth the hassle". This is why some attractive women are seemingly unable to land a decent guy. They live their entire lives wearing their "armor" and, as a consequence, only get approached by shady guys. At some point, they give in and get involved with one of those shady guys because those are the only guys that hit on them. Edited August 23, 2012 by Feelsgoodman 1
Feelsgoodman Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Within about 10 minutes you'll have a good idea of what it's like to be a 14 year old girl....which is probably around the time most women learn that they're going to have to develop a bit of a bitch shield. There are ways for a woman to deflect unwanted attention without acting like a bitch, just like there are ways for a man to solve disputes without resorting to fisticuffs. A bitch shield is a sign of a socially retarded woman...it's the easiest and least intellectually tasking method of dealing with uncomfortable social situations. 1
udolipixie Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 What women fail to understand is that a bitch shied cannot repel undesirable guys...but it WILL turn off desirable ones. Serial womanizers and guys with no self-esteem (like the dude from your work) would hit on you no matter how you carried yourself. Most normal guys, on the other hand, would note your sourpuss expression and think to themselves "meh, she must be bitch; not worth the hassle". This is why some attractive women are seemingly unable to land a decent guy. They live their entire lives wearing their "armor" and, as a consequence, only get approached by shady guys. At some point, they give in and get involved with one of those shady guys because those are the only guys that hit on them. I highly doubt gals fail to understand that a b*tch shield will repel men undesirable or desirable. Seems it's more that you fail to understand that when gals are interested in a relationship or consider a guy to be desirable most likely they'll turn off their b*tch shield. Hence why there's often many guys saying gals are more welcoming and friendly in this place or that place.
Feelsgoodman Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I highly doubt gals fail to understand that a b*tch shield will repel men undesirable or desirable. Seems it's more that you fail to understand that when gals are interested in a relationship or consider a guy to be desirable they'll turn off their b*tch shield. Hence why there's often many guys saying gals are more welcoming and friendly in this place or that place. You seem to think that the sequence of event is like this: 1) desirable guy starts interaction; 2) bitch shield comes off. It's actually the other way around. You will not even get a chance to turn off your bitch shield because you won't get approached by a desirable guy in the first place. Desirable guys have options...they don't need to hit on cold and unpleasant women. 2
proseandpassion Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I prefer to just act indifferent and like I have other priorities going on. The bitch shield only goes up once someone seriously won't leave me alone. It actually embarasses me when female friends are unnecessarily bitchy to people they don't know. Some of them get a very obvious thrill out of it. 2
udolipixie Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) You seem to think that the sequence of event is like this: 1) desirable guy starts interaction; 2) bitch shield comes off. It's actually the other way around. You will not even get a chance to turn off your bitch shield because you won't get approached by a desirable guy in the first place. Desirable guys have options...they don't need to hit on cold and unpleasant women. That's not the sequence I'm thinking of. The sequence I'm thinking of is: A. 1) Gal wants to sex, a date, or a relationship 2) She goes out without the b*tch shield B. 1) Gal sees a desirable guy as in she notices a guy who fits her physical preferences 2) B*tch shield comes down The guy doesn't have to start the interaction and I'm not sure where you got that he would when I said "when gals are interested in a relationship" (A) "or consider a guy to be desirable" (B). Edited August 23, 2012 by udolipixie
Feelsgoodman Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 B. 1) Gal sees a desirable guy as in she notices a guy who fits her physical preferences 2) B*tch shield comes down This implies that your gal notices the guy first and turns off the shield before he notices her. In reality, it rarely happens that way. Usually, guys are the active ones. They check out prospective candidates and approach the ones they like, while women sit back and wait to be approached. If a guy sees you with a bitch shield on, there's a good chance he won't even come near you.
udolipixie Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 This implies that your gal notices the guy first and turns off the shield before he notices her. In reality, it rarely happens that way. Usually, guys are the active ones. They check out prospective candidates and approach the ones they like, while women sit back and wait to be approached. If a guy sees you with a bitch shield on, there's a good chance he won't even come near you. It implies that to you as I made no implications on who notices who first as it wasn't a factor to me. I highly doubt you can attest to the norm so 'it rarely happens that way' seems more like 'it rarely happens that way in my experience'. In my experience many gals that do the on/off b*tch shield are active and check out prospects rather than wait to be approached. B*tch shields vary for some it's indifference and likely there's a good chance a guy would approach a gal looking welcoming to him when she previously looked indifferent as many people do out in public. "If a guy sees you with a bitch shield on, there's a good chance he won't even come near you." I know so many gals that wish this were true.
Taramere Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 There are ways for a woman to deflect unwanted attention without acting like a bitch, just like there are ways for a man to solve disputes without resorting to fisticuffs. A bitch shield is a sign of a socially retarded woman...it's the easiest and least intellectually tasking method of dealing with uncomfortable social situations. Men who are polite and respectful in the way they approach women are unlikely to get a bitch shield response. The bitch shield is an appropriate response towards an obvious "it's a numbers game" man who's hitting on all and sundry and generally has the aura of the snake oil seller about him. The bitch shield consists of a brief and insincere smile and a "sorry, I'm in a hurry" excuse. Swift, uncomplicated and best for all concerned. Same as you'd give the swift "thanks, not interested" brush off to street vendors. 3
threebyfate Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Why do women have bitch shields? Why do men show butt crack? 1
Imported Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I like women with "bitch shields" more than the ones that are very nice at all times and seem very inviting to all men. Because then all men around her think they have a shot, because she was so nice to them. Even after being politely rejected, they still think they have a shot because she didn't really reject them that hard. If she walked 5 yards away from me, every guy, dork or not, stop her to have a little conversation with her. Try to get her number, buy her a drink,, ask her out. Much rather go out with women that have a look about them that will intimidate most men to not even try to approach them and if they do...make it very blunt there is zero interest. Tell them to ****-off if need be.
Feelsgoodman Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 It implies that to you as I made no implications on who notices who first as it wasn't a factor to me. I highly doubt you can attest to the norm so 'it rarely happens that way' seems more like 'it rarely happens that way in my experience'. In my experience many gals that do the on/off b*tch shield are active and check out prospects rather than wait to be approached. B*tch shields vary for some it's indifference and likely there's a good chance a guy would approach a gal looking welcoming to him when she previously looked indifferent as many people do out in public. "If a guy sees you with a bitch shield on, there's a good chance he won't even come near you." I know so many gals that wish this were true. So how is the whole bitch shield thing working out for you personally? And, out of sheer curiosity, why do you feel the need to keep the bitch shield up when posting on this board? With respect to your last paragraph, see post #14 above.
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