Mr. Sexy Talk called today!

[xxoo]

How about they find something else to do on the early dates besides create a situation where the woman might feel pressured to have sex? Especially knowing all about the 3rd-4th date 'rule' so many guys have.

 

It's not that difficult.

 

They could also wait for her to suggest it... Also, not difficult... especially if their goal is for her to feel secure.

 

The guys could say something like... "I'd really like to cook for you sometime"... and then see if she steps up and suggests coming over to his place or hers.

 

If not, then don't suggest it as a date idea. It's that simple.

 

But people aren't perfect, and miscommunications and false assumptions are common.

 

Maybe you never meet decent guys who suggest the wrong things. Maybe all the guys you encounter really are looking for early sex. But then I'd wonder why that is? Is it the age group? Are they all simply jaded and done with relationships? Maybe.

Edited August 26, 2012 by xxoo

[Heart Of A Lion]

If having him cook at home would feel too pushy, then there's a middle ground for that if you both like to cook or like food.

 

There are evening cooking classes where you can pair with other single people that are interested in cooking.

 

Can be quite romantic in my opinion if you pair with someone that rings your bell: http://rod.gs/y0m

 

There are solutions like that for every field of shared interest, it doesn't necessarily have to be cooking or food.

 

Plus it gives both people a neutral ground where they can get to know each other outside of a sexual context.

[Lonely Ronin]

You need to know though...

 

Every single sh*thead I've ever gone on a date with and pushed the sex ALWAYS... without exception... tried to get a 'date' at my house or his very early.

 

EVERY SINGLE ONE.

.

 

 

What is the social status/background of some of these men? what age range are we talking about?

 

How soon do you let it be known that you ride? I'm just wondering, because society associates a stigma with ridding, so I'm betting these guys are making assumptions about you based on that stigma.

[kaylan]

Lol @ anyone even participating in this thread (now including myself). We already know RR makes generalized assumptions about most men, and is rather conservative in her dating views (which fuels her assumptions).

 

So why even discuss this? She labeled a guy as a sex fiend...doesnt want anything to do with him...so why do we care what was said or how she goes about screening folks?

 

Same ole, same ole.

So from reading your posts you're looking for a man that:

 

1. Doesn't push for sex too early

2. Doesn't multi-date

3. Is not a player

4. Is honest

5. Is loyal

6. Can be trusted

7. Is interested in you beyond sex

8. Sees you as a human being

9. Doesn't trash talk to you with a sexual undertone

 

You're not asking for something outlandish here. It should be possible to find a man like that, especially for a ballerina that rides fast motorcycles. Such men do exist RR.

Then one must ask, why are other women meeting these men, and not RR?

Edited August 26, 2012 by kaylan

[Heart Of A Lion]

Lol @ anyone even participating in this thread (now including myself). We already know RR makes generalized assumptions about most men, and is rather conservative in her dating views (which fuels her assumptions).

 

So why even discuss this? She labeled a guy as a sex fiend...doesnt want anything to do with him...so why do we care what was said or how she goes about screening folks?

 

Same ole, same ole.

 

There's nothing wrong with her dating views in my opinion. The list I posted on the previous page isn't that crazy and is actually exactly the same to mine. If that's conservative, then so be it.

 

She said she has had a lot of disappointing dates and that seems to have colored her glasses somewhat in the way she views a lot of men.

 

Perhaps all she needs is a different strategy on how to go about finding a man that checks her boxes.

 

I agree with you that she seems to generalize a lot and often makes all kinds of assumptions without the proper proof for it. I agree that that is something she could work on.

Edited August 27, 2012 by Heart Of A Lion

[Ninjainpajamas]

How about they find something else to do on the early dates besides create a situation where the woman might feel pressured to have sex? Especially knowing all about the 3rd-4th date 'rule' so many guys have.

 

It's not that difficult.

 

They could also wait for her to suggest it... Also, not difficult... especially if their goal is for her to feel secure.

 

The guys could say something like... "I'd really like to cook for you sometime"... and then see if she steps up and suggests coming over to his place or hers.

 

If not, then don't suggest it as a date idea. It's that simple.

 

You know RR, maybe you're doing something to influence this or trigger these men that send them the signal that you're interested in pursuing things sexually more quickly? Hell, maybe you have a seductive look or give off a certain vibe that make these men feel like you're pining for their advancement or assertiveness that you're not aware of.

 

Maybe you're not doing something in terms of communication with these men and what you expect? or do you just want to see what cards they deal themselves?

 

If I didn't know better...I'd think the guys you were dating were in their early 20's or teens, not developed men...is there a reason you can think of that they'd they feel this comfortable making remarks and expressing themselves int his way?

 

I'm not trying to imply you are to blame but I find this odd, I don't know from men their requirements in this particular arena as I'm not a woman and don't date men but I'd at least imagine a guy would feel out the situation a bit better before making such an obvious advance. There are guys with the 3 date rule, but I can't imagine mature men who respect women sticking to this rule, or any other kind of rule other than If she just seems to be using or playing you.

 

Personally, by the time I make any "sexual" advancement I'm certain she's interested in engaging in that, and I enjoy many other facets of being with a woman that I'm interested in, that this would not be something I'm not in the slightest worried about enough to make sex a priority or the goal in just about any way. And honestly women are quite aggressive and capable of making advancements on their own, I can't even recall the last time I ever "pressured" someone I was dating into having sex or baited her into a situation early on just so I could possibly get some If things went "well". It's just unnecessary, from my experience If a woman wants to sleep with you she will make it known rather easily, I'm not sure why older men would be trying to swoon you with tactics of a men still learning the ropes.

 

I don't see all men doing this on my front, even though I'll easily critique and call out men...so I'm a little baffled why the men you are dating are making it such a priority early on and not having any sense when it comes to the kind of situation it may even look like they are trying to create.

 

Maybe you're dating wealthy men who want to impress you their nice home?

 

Maybe you're dating men who think they are "mature" enough to be direct and not play any "games" but coming at you without any shame or attempt to be indirect as they feel this is the appropriate progress of a relationship?

 

Unfortunately I can't see what these men see just by judging you based on this forum...you seem like the somewhat "conservative" or "don't f w me to fast" vibe here, maybe you're all smiles and friendliness in person? not enough information for me to figure this dynamic, unless all other women are saying they have the same issues in your age bracket/demographic, It wouldn't surprise me If these men did pursue sex quickly but it seems juvenile and inexperienced the way the men you meet are engaging you.

[carhill]

If she's got a dancer's body, and is attractive, men are going to want to have sex with her. That's a given. The task is separating the ones who only want to have sex from the ones who view sex within the totality of a relationship. Dating is about 'getting to know'. If that process leads to a relationship, it does. If not, not. Sounds like the OP wants a complete and balanced relationship. It's OK that men she meets do not want a relationship or go about achieving one in a different and incompatible style. Part of life. Celebrate the opportunity.

[kaylan]

There's nothing wrong with her dating views in my opinion. The list I posted on the previous page isn't that crazy and is actually exactly the same to mine. If that's conservative, then so be it.

The list is maybe a tad conservative. But not really a big deal, and plenty of people exist out there who fit the list. To be honest, the only portion I found conservative was number; asking that someone not multi-date. Other than that, all the other points are something everyone wants.

 

My critique of RR, however, is based on her attitude in past threads. In my opinion she shoots herself in the foot and keeps herself from meeting the guy she wants because shes a bit uptight. You may be a bit conservative yourself, but Ive always pegged you as a lot more open minded than her.

 

She said she has had a lot of disappointing dates and that seems to have colored her glasses somewhat in the way she views a lot of men.

 

Perhaps all she needs is a different strategy on how to go about finding a man that checks her boxes.

 

I agree with you that she seems to generalize a lot and often makes all kinds of assumptions without the proper proof for it. I agree that that is something she could work on.

And that's my point. Sure shes had some downers, but she needs to stop going into situations looking for a reason to axe a guy. She seems like shes waiting for him to mess up, instead of simply going with the flow. I definitely think a new strategy is needed. Edited August 27, 2012 by kaylan

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Ballet

 

 

... and the walk was nice... but didn't change my mood much.

 

Strapping on the running shoes now and going for broke... Really need to get this junk out of my system.... a good long run and stretch should do it...

 

 

Oh that's so cool Red! In another life, I want to be a dancer. I love the ballet. I once saw Baryshnikov. It was very exciting.

[RedRobin]

What is the social status/background of some of these men? what age range are we talking about?

 

How soon do you let it be known that you ride? I'm just wondering, because society associates a stigma with ridding, so I'm betting these guys are making assumptions about you based on that stigma.

 

I dunno...

 

Ask the people here on LS why they think it is a cool idea to invite a woman over on the pretense of 'cooking' when they really wanna just f*ck.

 

It has nothing to do with social/status background...

 

Character and BS'ing has nothing to do with social status.

 

There are plenty of threads from women who back up what I'm saying...

 

... and about the riding... whatever.

 

Whatever on what I do for a living, how much money I make... Whatever on that I dance.

 

It's always 'something'.

 

There is no excuse for crappy behavior from men... When I tell them I'm looking for a committed relationship and get this shyte... and I show them with my actions that I mean business.

[RedRobin]

Oh that's so cool Red! In another life, I want to be a dancer. I love the ballet. I once saw Baryshnikov. It was very exciting.

 

You don't need another life.

 

Just find a place that teaches adult classes. There are alot of them springing up. They cost about the same as yoga/pilates... $15 a class or so.

 

If you are an exercise from home person... There are also lots of videos that emphasize ballet technique. NY Ballet Workout is great.

 

It does amazing things for your body, musculature, and balance.

[RedRobin]

Then one must ask, why are other women meeting these men, and not RR?

 

Because I'm a freak and an outlier. That's why.

 

... and I'm tired of sifting...

 

Tired of dealing with men who either need to cut my legs off to feel better about themselves and tired of the ones who I scare.

 

I don't want to do this anymore.

[RedRobin]

I agree with you that she seems to generalize a lot and often makes all kinds of assumptions without the proper proof for it.

 

Have you ever walked in a room...

 

... and have people look at you...

 

... and then find out later all the things they said about you (negative or positive) that had absolutely nothing to do with who you are as a person.

 

.. and that this happens on a regular basis...

 

... and you sometimes feel you have no safe place to hide from it...

 

... and that the consequences of making a bad decision or a poor judgement about someone's character has a monumental impact... far beyond what most people might consider reasonable...

 

Because you are in the public eye... and the memory lasts not only in yours... but a bunch of other people's as well...

 

This has been my life... and it wasn't something I 'chose'...

 

That is why.

 

(ok, ok... multi-quoting would have helped tonight!)

Edited August 27, 2012 by RedRobin

[Heart Of A Lion]

Have you ever walked in a room...

 

... and have people look at you...

 

... and then find out later all the things they said about you (negative or positive) that had absolutely nothing to do with who you are as a person.

 

.. and that this happens on a regular basis...

 

... and you sometimes feel you have no safe place to hide from it...

 

... and that the consequences of making a bad decision or a poor judgement about someone's character has a monumental impact... far beyond what most people might consider reasonable...

 

Because you are in the public eye... and the memory lasts not only in yours... but a bunch of other people's as well...

 

This has been my life... and it wasn't something I 'chose'...

 

That is why.

 

I'm sorry Robin, but I don't understand what you're trying to tell me.

 

That post only makes sense to me if you're some kind of celebrity where you're in the public eye.

 

Could you give some actual and comprehensive examples of what you mean here?

 

Because I'm a freak and an outlier. That's why.

 

... and I'm tired of sifting...

 

Tired of dealing with men who either need to cut my legs off to feel better about themselves and tired of the ones who I scare.

 

I don't want to do this anymore.

 

I don't understand this post either I'm afraid. What do you mean with cutting off your legs to make themselves feel better?

 

If you want me to be able to give you helpful replies, then I need some concrete examples of what you mean, because these explanations are too vague for me to make any kind of sense of what you're trying to tell me.

Edited August 27, 2012 by Heart Of A Lion

[RedRobin]

But people aren't perfect, and miscommunications and false assumptions are common.

 

Maybe you never meet decent guys who suggest the wrong things. Maybe all the guys you encounter really are looking for early sex. But then I'd wonder why that is? Is it the age group? Are they all simply jaded and done with relationships? Maybe.

 

Yes, I'm working on being more patient with miscommunications.

 

The men I meet who strike things up with me range from late 20's - 50's. The 20's/30's just want sex (mostly) and get their learn on from a 'hot' experienced woman. The 40's-50's are jaded and seem to be done with relationships or they are anti-commitment.

 

If having him cook at home would feel too pushy, then there's a middle ground for that if you both like to cook or like food.

 

There are evening cooking classes where you can pair with other single people that are interested in cooking.

 

Can be quite romantic in my opinion if you pair with someone that rings your bell: Hereafter (2010) - Night-school Classes Scene - YouTube

 

There are solutions like that for every field of shared interest, it doesn't necessarily have to be cooking or food.

 

Plus it gives both people a neutral ground where they can get to know each other outside of a sexual context.

 

GREAT idea!

 

You know RR, maybe you're doing something to influence this or trigger these men that send them the signal that you're interested in pursuing things sexually more quickly? Hell, maybe you have a seductive look or give off a certain vibe that make these men feel like you're pining for their advancement or assertiveness that you're not aware of.

 

I dunno. Seems to me that no matter what unconscious 'vibe' I'm giving off (no, it has nothing to do with clothing selection or topic of conversation), they'd respect my wishes and desire for a relationship.

 

I think most of them ARE wanting a relationship with me. Just going about it the 100% wrong way. Which I"m not patient about helping them figure out.

 

Maybe you're not doing something in terms of communication with these men and what you expect?

No. I tell them very clearly what I'm looking for, that I don't multi-date, and I'm serious about finding someone (hopefully) to share my life with....

 

or do you just want to see what cards they deal themselves?

 

Yes. I say the above once and only once. Then I sit back and see what they do with that information.

 

If I didn't know better...I'd think the guys you were dating were in their early 20's or teens, not developed men...is there a reason you can think of that they'd they feel this comfortable making remarks and expressing themselves int his way?

 

Apparently I bring out the inner-f*ck in men. (A quote from a former BF)... and they feel comfortable around me. I think in a similar way women might feel comfortable around you prematurely (as you've mentioned here before). If you can relate to them and empathize with them... that is very appealing, right?

 

I do. Empathize and care about men. At a human level... but I'm not comfortable with the outcome of that 'comfort'...

 

I'm not sure why older men would be trying to swoon you with tactics of a men still learning the ropes.

 

OLD??

 

I don't see all men doing this on my front, even though I'll easily critique and call out men...so I'm a little baffled why the men you are dating are making it such a priority early on and not having any sense when it comes to the kind of situation it may even look like they are trying to create.

 

Maybe you're dating wealthy men who want to impress you their nice home?

 

Maybe you're dating men who think they are "mature" enough to be direct and not play any "games" but coming at you without any shame or attempt to be indirect as they feel this is the appropriate progress of a relationship?

 

All of the above...

 

Unfortunately I can't see what these men see just by judging you based on this forum...you seem like the somewhat "conservative" or "don't f w me to fast" vibe here, maybe you're all smiles and friendliness in person? not enough information for me to figure this dynamic, unless all other women are saying they have the same issues in your age bracket/demographic, It wouldn't surprise me If these men did pursue sex quickly but it seems juvenile and inexperienced the way the men you meet are engaging you.

 

Yea, I'm an uptight beyotch on LS... ha ha. Here it is all about ME.

 

IRL, I am all smiles and friendliness most of the time... I'm thinking about the other person and focusing on seeing how they are doing... tuning into the people around me.

 

BUT... lots of women in my demographic/location have the same issues... the men aren't looking for commitment and are guys are happy playing the field.

 

I'm happy to let them on someone else's time.

 

If she's got a dancer's body, and is attractive, men are going to want to have sex with her. That's a given. The task is separating the ones who only want to have sex from the ones who view sex within the totality of a relationship. Dating is about 'getting to know'. If that process leads to a relationship, it does. If not, not. Sounds like the OP wants a complete and balanced relationship. It's OK that men she meets do not want a relationship or go about achieving one in a different and incompatible style. Part of life. Celebrate the opportunity.

 

I know. I should. Celebrate the opportunity.

 

I'm uncomfortable celebrating externals. More comfortable celebrating what requires effort.

 

And that's my point. Sure shes had some downers, but she needs to stop going into situations looking for a reason to axe a guy. She seems like shes waiting for him to mess up, instead of simply going with the flow. I definitely think a new strategy is needed.

 

I can't do that.

 

It feels parasitic.

 

I've seen your posts too, Kaylan...

 

and you talk alot about how 'nothing is forever' and all that...

 

But I'm surrounded by people who have made a life out of 'forever'... and you know what? It's pretty remarkable.

 

No. They aren't perfect. And I'm 100% sure that ALL of them fell out of love for each other at some point in their life. But they never gave up on each other... and they stuck around long enough to fall back in love together.

 

... and I can't get over my sadness that I lost my opportunity to have what they have... however imperfect, or messy... or whatever.

 

and now I'm stuck dealing with people who don't believe that... and I don't want to participate.

 

Sorry.

[Lonely Ronin]

I dunno...

 

Ask the people here on LS why they think it is a cool idea to invite a woman over on the pretense of 'cooking' when they really wanna just f*ck.

 

It has nothing to do with social/status background...

 

Character and BS'ing has nothing to do with social status.

 

There are plenty of threads from women who back up what I'm saying...

 

... and about the riding... whatever.

 

Whatever on what I do for a living, how much money I make... Whatever on that I dance.

 

You know, if you stopped being so damn defensive for a minute, people might I don't know give you some advise that might help you weed out the loosers.

 

Social status, background, upbringing, job can all play a part in why a guy might act they way the guys you are running into are. Have you ever been around a person who grew up an over privileged brat? I have and you would be amazed at the crap they think they can say and get away with until they get put in their place a few times.

 

I didn't say you acted like the stigma, merely that these guys might be projecting it onto you, and thus acting the way they are. Hell what I do for a living carries a huge stigma. I don't like it, but I have learned how to deal with it. Usually I don't bring up jobs until she does. On several occasions I've gotten the "I never would have pegged you for a blank" line.

 

 

There is no excuse for crappy behavior from men... When I tell them I'm looking for a committed relationship and get this shyte... and I show them with my actions that I mean business.

 

I didn't say there was an excuse. The reason I and I think several other people asked you about these guys was so that perhaps a commonality could be pinpointed that you might be missing. If you found a commonality you would't have to deal with anything.

[RedRobin]

You know, if you stopped being so damn defensive for a minute, people might I don't know give you some advise that might help you weed out the loosers.

 

Social status, background, upbringing, job can all play a part in why a guy might act they way the guys you are running into are. Have you ever been around a person who grew up an over privileged brat? I have and you would be amazed at the crap they think they can say and get away with until they get put in their place a few times.

 

I didn't say you acted like the stigma, merely that these guys might be projecting it onto you, and thus acting the way they are. Hell what I do for a living carries a huge stigma. I don't like it, but I have learned how to deal with it. Usually I don't bring up jobs until she does. On several occasions I've gotten the "I never would have pegged you for a blank" line.

 

 

 

 

I didn't say there was an excuse. The reason I and I think several other people asked you about these guys was so that perhaps a commonality could be pinpointed that you might be missing. If you found a commonality you would't have to deal with anything.

 

You have alot of good points...

 

I need some sleep... tomorrow is another day...

[RedRobin]

I appreciate the desire to help...

 

However, I can see this is going to turn into another, "let's tear down RR" thread.

 

The OP was about men who are sexually suggestive and WTF? does this stuff work?

 

It obviously doesn't work with me, so that is all that matters.

 

Just so you know... the latest round of attention from Mr. Sexy Talk is over. I managed to send him away (again) without being disrespectful, dishonest, or sinking to his level... I did it without escalating too... which was VERY difficult because he was (and still may be) acting like a stalker.

 

... but it took it's toll. Which is probably the reason men like him do what he does. Even when he doesn't get what he wants (sex) he always takes 'something' from the women he interacts with...

 

Because it takes effort to be considerate to a*sholes...

[kaylan]

Answer HeartofaLion for us all. Are you somewhat well known or from an upper tier background? Because what you said on the last page about the public eye, sounds like something a celebrity would worry about.

 

Because I'm a freak and an outlier. That's why.

 

... and I'm tired of sifting...

 

Tired of dealing with men who either need to cut my legs off to feel better about themselves and tired of the ones who I scare.

 

I don't want to do this anymore.

You arent a freak nor an outlier. Everyone finds love at different times in their life, some sooner than others. The point of my wondering why other women were finding the guys you desire first, is that I was thinking maybe you need to switch up where you meet, how you meet, and the way in which you interact with men.

 

Im thinking one of those things is off and is maybe why you keep being presented with lame suitors. May I ask you age btw?

I can't do that. It feels parasitic.

I dont follow. What exactly is parasitic?

 

I've seen your posts too, Kaylan...

 

and you talk alot about how 'nothing is forever' and all that...

But its true. Nothing is guaranteed to be forever. I think you have to accept that in order to finally move forward without fear. Im thinking fear of failure is what holds a lot of people back when it comes to many things in life, including love.

 

But I'm surrounded by people who have made a life out of 'forever'... and you know what? It's pretty remarkable.

 

No. They aren't perfect. And I'm 100% sure that ALL of them fell out of love for each other at some point in their life. But they never gave up on each other... and they stuck around long enough to fall back in love together.

Ok...but you have to live YOUR life. Stop comparing your life to everyone elses. Its great that some people have found one person to settle down with. Luck of the draw I guess. But just because you havent yet, doesnt mean that you wont. And just because they have found "forever" already, does not mean that you need to be so fixated on it.

 

I think this is the problem with how some people date. Dont be so outcome oriented. Try to just enjoy meeting new people and getting to know them without such big expectations that cause you to worry. Just have some fun maybe, ya know?

... and I can't get over my sadness that I lost my opportunity to have what they have... however imperfect, or messy... or whatever.

 

and now I'm stuck dealing with people who don't believe that... and I don't want to participate.

 

Sorry.

Thats the thing....you talk about being jealous of them...and their imperfect, messy, yet lasting love. But when I read your posts, you seem totally unwilling to do anything that isnt by the book, the way youve written your book. It would seem to me that if anything is done that you dislike, you are quick to axe a guy and walk away. And this assessment is not solely based on this thread, but on my many encounters with you since youve joined this website.

 

I personally dont think you would give a lasting love enough time to grow. I personally dont believe that youd give a a guy long enough a chance to be in your life, for you two to see that something special is there, unless everything was perfect and the way you expect everything to do. It just never seemed to me that imperfections and messiness would be allowed in your world. But the world isnt perfect...and if you want this love, you gotta switch things up.

 

I may be off the mark, but thats how I see this.

Edited August 27, 2012 by kaylan

[RedRobin]

Kaylan, thank you, but I'm not responding to more digging...

 

...nor am I going to be baited into a debate about the merits of "let's f for awhile and see where things go" style of so-called 'relationships'.

 

Start another thread on that topic if desired... or bump up your thread where you talk about things not being 'forever'.

Edited August 27, 2012 by RedRobin

[Heart Of A Lion]

It's hard for me to give you helpful replies and insights if I don't know what you're trying to say RR.

 

To be honest, I can't make heads nor tails of your two replies that I quoted on the previous page.

 

You mentioned that you're looking for love, for someone to spend the rest of your life with. Sometimes the solution to a problem lies closer than you think. A change of perspective, a change of attitude or a change of strategy can make a world of difference.

 

The checklist of the type of man you're looking for, is really not that crazy. It's a realistic list. It can be done.

[RedRobin]

To be honest, I can't make heads nor tails of your two replies that I quoted on the previous page.

 

You can't imagine what it is like for people in the public eye to date? Really?

 

You don't know what it is like for people to sabotage or undermine you just so they can feel better about themselves? In the relationship sense?

 

Men who are insecure about their life path, income, education, etc... do it all the time to women who they perceive are not 'inferior' to them.

[RedRobin]

......

 

Never mind.....

Edited August 27, 2012 by RedRobin

[ThaWholigan]

I think that when it comes to dating nowadays, there is a certain cadence that is missing. Even in my immediate environment, it wouldn't exactly be easy to have a steady, anticipatory progression into a relationship - as even the girls are in a rush to start f*cking . I'm not complaining, I've noted plenty of times that I prefer directness, but at the same time, I do wonder about how different it would be if there was a certain level of........well, not caution, but rhythm.

 

I find that a lot of guys also secretly yearn for that dance, as while they go for the sex straight away, they also experience something I think you are familiar with - they lose respect for the person they are engaging with. So many guys say to me "these hoes nowadays......." while shaking their heads - and I say back to them "you pricks are part of your own problem :lmao::lmao:".

 

And you see, the thing is, it's not even about "waiting". When I like a girl, sure I wanna have sex with her, but there are certain prerequisites that I would follow before I pursue that. I do want to know about her first. In fact, the only time I haven't done that, was simply out of curiosity and.....well, it had been a long time coming . She was quite hot too .....

 

I digress - I think that a lot of guys don't REALLY know how to talk to women in a seductive way. They either don't do it, or overdo it. Hence, the ludicrous comments that the guy sent your way . Obviously, different women respond to different things, but men should really learn more about themselves in terms of attraction and then they will probably fare better - they may even get "more sex" should they desire it.

 

As for your predicament - I feel that your demographic may be holding you back somewhat in terms of your dating life, but there may be something in your aura or the way you relate to men that could be coloring your interactions with them somehow. I can't know what that is, but maybe something to ponder. I admire your fortitude though, you obviously know what is attractive to you, what you want in terms of a relationship - you just need to find someone who fits the bill. I wish I could help you more, but all I can do is wish you luck .

[Heart Of A Lion]

You can't imagine what it is like for people in the public eye to date? Really?

 

That's not what I said.

 

I simply don't understand the way you explained the problem, because you explained it in a very vague way.

 

I'm still not sure what you're trying to say.

 

You say that when you walk into a room, all the people in it talk about you and that it happens on a regular basis and that there are consequences of monumental impact for a lot of people, which are remembered in memory by many people and that it was not your choice to be in that position.

 

I simply don't understand what you're trying to tell.

 

Like I said, if you explain it like that, then it only makes sense if you're a celebrity or high profile official or something like that.

I can't form a helpful reply if I don't understand what it is you're trying to say.

 

What I'm saying is that your explanation is too vague in order for me to give you helpful advice on it. You're evidently trying to say something, but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

 

If you're some kind of celebrity then I could understand that you wouldn't want to talk about it, but then I'm not sure why you would bring up the subject on a public forum.

Edited August 27, 2012 by Heart Of A Lion