Are tattoos a turn off to any other men?

[kiss_andmakeup]

In response to the "what kind of world are we leaving behind for future generations" argument created by the OP, I have to say...

 

Considering the abominations we humans have committed, and are continuing to commit, against our environment, our air quality, our water supply, and our other natural resources, if tattoos are the biggest "problem" future generations face, I'll consider it a major accomplishment.

 

This argument popping up in this particular thread was almost comical to me. I'm not even sure I want kids, however I've often ruminated on what will be left of this world for our future generations. It is scary, I'll agree with that. But tattoos? I think they're the least of our worries.

[ThaWholigan]

Guys:

 

No one denies that there are nice educated tattoed people in the planet.

 

The problem is that the tattoos are also the norm in the un educated underclass.

 

And we are expected to immediately tell the difference between these two groups.

You're not supposed to be measuring class by tattoos.

[xxoo]

Guys:

 

No one denies that there are nice educated tattoed people in the planet.

 

The problem is that the tattoos are also the norm in the un educated underclass.

 

And we are expected to immediately tell the difference between these two groups.

 

No, just not use the simple presence of a tattoo as a litmus test either way.

[Surfer203]

This is just plain ridiculous, I have two full sleeves of tattoos... I am smart, have owned a house since I was 24, I make good money. I am respectable and nice, never been in trouble with the law. I don't take drugs. Yet, look in the media, all of the multi-millionaire, actors, politicians and public figures that behave like trash. Committing crimes, having bizarre secret lives and personalities. Every single human is capable of wrong doing and being a piece of garbage. We are all "weird" and unique no matter how straight laced you may seem.

[Casablanca]

It all depends on whether they can be hidden.

 

It also depends on the number and size of tattoos.

 

There is also the other stuff that follows such as excessive body piercing.

This is how I am, if it isn't hideable, or hard to hide, I'm not interested...I will never understand why some girls get a tattoo above their breasts. If you ever want to wear anything low cut it is going to be seen

 

Also tramp stamps are a turn off for me

[Casablanca]

Actually one of our secretaries has a very tiny rose above her lateral right ankle. I never knew it was there because she is in a pant business suit most of the time. Then one day at a party she had a skirt and high heels and I noted the tiny rose. She has magnificent legs and somehow it did not affect me in a negative manner because the tattoo was so subtle. I even complimented her. One of the few times in my life where offered a sincere compliment regarding a tattoo. Most of the time I say nice just to be polite. In retrospect maybe it was a polite manner to tell her she has beautiful lower extremities.

 

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Little ones like that don't bother me because they aren't obtrusive and they can be hidden if need be

[kaylan]

Guys:

 

No one denies that there are nice educated tattoed people in the planet.

 

The problem is that the tattoos are also the norm in the un educated underclass.

 

And we are expected to immediately tell the difference between these two groups.

The underclass drinks beer....so does the upper class. Should we shame those who enjoy a pint as well?

 

You have terrible logic.

You are quite correct.

 

However, we are not robots. We are infected by our own humanity and our humanity makes errors.

 

Sometimes a person that looks like a loser is not a loser.

 

Meanwhile, there are other sectors in our society that make judgments on a regular basis. Sometimes, they are wrong in their judgments, but they are also correct most of the time.

Incorrect.

It all depends on whether they can be hidden.

 

It also depends on the number and size of tattoos.

 

There is also the other stuff that follows such as excessive body piercing.

 

I guess some folks are able to ignore the tattoos. There is also the possibility that even though the tattoos are identical to the underclass these folks present themselves as different.

Define excessive? I have my ears, eye brow, and lip pierced (barely wear this one anymore though.). Id say my piercings are average in number. Excessive tattoos and piercings are usually what you see on people who do those tv specials...where they have their whole body tattoo, or many facial piercings...like 3 in the lip, 4 in the nose, etc.

Edited August 16, 2012 by kaylan

[yongyong]

who smokes with?? It's not just for garbage people. Normal people smokes it too.

Even Obama smoked some back in the day.

 

Is it ok as a foreigner to think 'All americans are pot heads' (at least some point in their life time)

 

what kind of defense do you have for this?

 

 

The underclass drinks beer....so does the upper class. Should we shame those who enjoy a pint as well?

 

You have terrible logic.

Incorrect.

Edited August 16, 2012 by yongyong

[kaylan]

This is how I am, if it isn't hideable, or hard to hide, I'm not interested...I will never understand why some girls get a tattoo above their breasts. If you ever want to wear anything low cut it is going to be seen

 

Also tramp stamps are a turn off for me

Who cares if its seen? Let it be seen, because many will like it, and in the end it only matters if the girl likes it.

 

As long as a person isnt tattooed from head to toe, and can put on work clothes and not stand out, then tattoos are no issue really. Seeing as cleavage is rather unprofessional in the workforce, tattoos above the breast wont be seen anyway.

who smokes with?? It's not just for garbage people. Normal people smokes it too.

Even Obama smoked some back in the day.

 

Is it ok as a foreigner to think 'All americans are pot heads' (at least some point in their life time)

 

what kind of defense do you have for this?

Why would a foreigner think that? People smoke weed all over the world, and Obama experimented and enjoyed his youth like many people in the world do.

 

No biggie. Try again.

Actually one of our secretaries has a very tiny rose above her lateral right ankle. I never knew it was there because she is in a pant business suit most of the time. Then one day at a party she had a skirt and high heels and I noted the tiny rose. She has magnificent legs and somehow it did not affect me in a negative manner because the tattoo was so subtle. I even complimented her. One of the few times in my life where offered a sincere compliment regarding a tattoo. Most of the time I say nice just to be polite. In retrospect maybe it was a polite manner to tell her she has beautiful lower extremities.

 

Then a few weeks later I asked this secretary to fetch a file for me and she bent down to look for it in the lower drawer of a file cabinet. As she did this her short blouse came up a bit and I saw parts of a gigantic tramp stamp. I was speechless as I did not expect that. However, kudos for her for keeping it well hidden.

But of course now you are going to judge her negatively even though you have first hand experience that tattoos have nothing to do with class.

Edited August 16, 2012 by kaylan

[Almond_Joy]

Most people I know who have tattoos got them because whatever they're representing in the tattoo(s) ties largely into how they define themselves. I understand that to be the original intent of tattoos which still stands true today, and has nothing to do with what the general public is doing. It'd be nice if more people respected that aspect of tattooing instead of thinking less of people because they have tattoos "like most people nowadays."

 

 

If I see someone with a lot of tattoos, I'll ask them what some of them mean to them. They are great icebreakers. And a tattoo's a big commitment because of the permanency and the pain involved. Just because several people choose to manifest their values physically through body art doesn't mean that they are all conforming.

 

I rather appreciate that someone is being so open about their beliefs and preferences by putting them on their skin. A tattoo can tell so much more about the values of a person than an unmarked body.

 

I also don't get this whole stigma of "they'll look bad when you get old." Unless you get horrendous wrinkles (ex. http://thepoodleanddogblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451580669e20120a7b66b3d970b-320wi all over), tattoos won't look much worse than when you first got them, and most old folks I've seen don't wrinkle that bad until they're in their 90's. And at that point how many people are really gonna see you anyway?

[yongyong]

This sounds like a God debate.

 

I don't think there is f-ing God. Now are you going to try to change how I think?

[Almond_Joy]

This sounds like a God debate.

 

I don't think there is f-ing God. Now are you going to try to change how I think?

 

 

....beliefs are not exclusively associated with spirituality/religion.

 

People get trees to represent growth and expansion - it doesn't mean they're Wiccans or nature-worshippers of some sort. And no, someone's representation of THEIR beliefs on THEIR body is in no way an attempt to tell YOU how to think - the tattoo has nothing to do with you or anyone else. -___-

[Million.to.1]

I'm not going to add anything further to this thread after this as it all seems a bit pointless. Plus I don't really care about the opinions of religious nuts or conservative bores anyway.

 

Some tattoos are ugly, unimaginative and stupid or cliche

Some people are ugly, unimaginative and stupid

Sometimes stupid people get tattoos and they are ugly. Sometimes unimaginative people get cliche tattoos.

 

Some tattoos are bold, beautiful and tell a story

Some people are bold, beautiful and have something to say.

Some people have tattoos that say something powerful. Some people have tattoos that are beautiful, but say nothing, they are just a picture/ design.

 

ART is SUBJECTIVE and even though i have a tattoo.. i don't really like 70% of the tattoos I see. It's not black and white.

 

If you don't like Tattoo's, then fine. Don't get one. Don't date someone with one.

... But you know what? When I hear something like " I wouldn't date a woman with tattoos" ... It sounds as bad to me as "i wouldn't date an asian" or I wouldn't date a Jew"

 

If you are the type of person who makes judgement calls on ANYONE before even ATTEMPTING to understand who they are, where they came from and where they are going, then you are what is wrong with the world today.

[espec10001]

Again, you are making my point. You are a terrible example of a religious person, because though you speak of God, you do not behave godly yourself...and showing indignation towards others will not get you through the gates of heaven. Your behavior in this thread has not been one of indifference in the slightest, and anyone whos read your posts can see that.

 

Again, you are simply a pathetic little man whos butt-hurt at the fact that many people like and enjoy having tattoos. Stop worrying about whats not affecting your life. Cry a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

Look here guy...I most likely read a great deal more than you, and can assure you I am much more cultured and learned than you. Your behavior in this thread is not of a person who is adept at comprehension or understanding. If it was then you could see what people are telling you and deal with the facts without getting so emotionally attached to a pointless argument.

Lmao...keep wishing that buddy. Keep believing in fairy tales. The funny thing is that when judgmental religious folks such as yourself say "its up to god" and then go on to mention Gods wrath, you know for a fact you are hoping "he get whats coming to him". Your heart isnt pure yourself...because a TRULY godly man would not beahve the way you are in this thread. He would kindly offer his opinion and guidance to others. Not cite Gods wrath and sling judgements and make hateful remarks toward others.

 

How hypocritical of you.

 

PS - Y U MAD THO?

 

I pray for you, and all other sinners. One day when you are older, you will understand. But for now I'm afraid these concepts are well above your level of comprehension. I'm sure you live in an environment which reinforces these false beliefs and you can't help it. May God have mercy on your soul. Nothing but God can help you now.

[espec10001]

I'm not going to add anything further to this thread after this as it all seems a bit pointless. Plus I don't really care about the opinions of religious nuts or conservative bores anyway.

 

Some tattoos are ugly, unimaginative and stupid or cliche

Some people are ugly, unimaginative and stupid

Sometimes stupid people get tattoos and they are ugly. Sometimes unimaginative people get cliche tattoos.

 

Some tattoos are bold, beautiful and tell a story

Some people are bold, beautiful and have something to say.

Some people have tattoos that say something powerful. Some people have tattoos that are beautiful, but say nothing, they are just a picture/ design.

 

ART is SUBJECTIVE and even though i have a tattoo.. i don't really like 70% of the tattoos I see. It's not black and white.

 

If you don't like Tattoo's, then fine. Don't get one. Don't date someone with one.

... But you know what? When I hear something like " I wouldn't date a woman with tattoos" ... It sounds as bad to me as "i wouldn't date an asian" or I wouldn't date a Jew"

 

If you are the type of person who makes judgement calls on ANYONE before even ATTEMPTING to understand who they are, where they came from and where they are going, then you are what is wrong with the world today.

 

I took a dump on the ground and called it art, because it's subjective.

[kaylan]

I took a dump on the ground and called it art, because it's subjective.

lol...and thats your choice. Why are you SO butthurt at a difference in opinion. Give it a rest already. You are behaving like a child.

I pray for you, and all other sinners.

No thanks. Though your own sinful behavior in this thread was quite amusing.

One day when you are older, you will understand. But for now I'm afraid these concepts are well above your level of comprehension.

When Im older? Lmao...please stop buddy...Im old enough to spot when a a guy like you is being annoyingly bitter and arrogant. I fully comprehend everything you are saying...just because I disagree with you does not mean I lack comprehension skills. Grow up.

I'm sure you live in an environment which reinforces these false beliefs and you can't help it. May God have mercy on your soul. Nothing but God can help you now.

Actually my family is pretty religious, but they dont force their beliefs down my throat like you are attempting to do. Get over it dude...I dont need Gods help. Thats like me needing the help of Batman.

[OhMiki]

If you are the type of person who makes judgement calls on ANYONE before even ATTEMPTING to understand who they are, where they came from and where they are going, then you are what is wrong with the world today.

 

I agree.

 

Maybe it comes off a bit naive, but I would rarely think to assume that I know the morals or integrity of another person in detail because of one facet of their appearance. Just because it's supposedly 'natural' for humans to judge another person's appearance and make guesses at what type of person they are, doesn't always make it right either. I make it a habit to always try and see more than what a person is presenting to the naked eye -- after all, the world would be a rather boring place if we all just made vast assumptions about others without digging at least a little further. I try because I know I would like another person to extend the same respect towards me someday. Again, maybe it's naive that I sometimes expect others to be capable of doing the same.

 

I know that some religious or very spiritual folks believe they are somewhat helping others by letting people know their beliefs about God and how importantly they impact some people in our society, but sometimes it just comes across as crude and disrespectful - especially when those beliefs grow to the point where you are making entire assumptions about another human's character based mostly on a single quality. People are often not so black-and-white and are prone to being multi-dimensional, some parts which people may agree with and others that they may not.

 

I just don't always understand why I can meet mostly any type of person, say one who doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't have tattoos, doesn't curse at all, doesn't have sex outside of marriage, strongly believes in god... and see them as different, but as their own person. Yet it's sad that the same person may not be able to do the same with me, simply because I might have tattoos or piercings on my body.

Edited August 16, 2012 by OhMiki

[espec10001]

lol...and thats your choice. Why are you SO butthurt at a difference in opinion. Give it a rest already. You are behaving like a child.No thanks. Though your own sinful behavior in this thread was quite amusing.

When Im older? Lmao...please stop buddy...Im old enough to spot when a a guy like you is being annoyingly bitter and arrogant. I fully comprehend everything you are saying...just because I disagree with you does not mean I lack comprehension skills. Grow up.

Actually my family is pretty religious, but they dont force their beliefs down my throat like you are attempting to do. Get over it dude...I dont need Gods help. Thats like me needing the help of Batman.

 

You should listen to your family. Why turn your back on God? Don't you think they want the best for you?

[ThaWholigan]

You should listen to your family. Why turn your back on God? Don't you think they want the best for you?

You weren't content with chastising all those with tattoos, now you're attempting to forcibly convert someone who doesn't wish to be converted, and shaming them?

 

Take it to the spiritual forum, you can proselytize and preach there.

 

P.S. I actually am a believer

[ascendotum]

You're not supposed to be measuring class by tattoos.

 

I agree but it does happen, and you take that on when you get them. Do you judge someone who has a bunch of rings sticking out of their lips, brow, ears, or someone with a mullet haircut?

I would hazard a bet that markedly more former public school people have noticable tats than do those from private schools.

 

Its a hangover from past generations. My parents & grandparents did, and that filters through to their kids. Tattoos used to be for trampy women, warfies, crims and the uneducated. With the ascent of tattoos over the past 20 yrs, that outlook is dimishing. Gen Xers don't have the same prejudice to their kids getting a tattoo than in the past, and it will be even more dimished in the next 20 yrs...who knows what will upset parents then.

 

The only time I judge a person with a tattoo is when they have a cheap crappy one or stupid design (ie a pic of a kid giving the middle finger), but its just a quick assesment and I move past it depending on how they present themselves. Ideally I would not want a gf that had a lot of visible tats, but if we clicked and I found her attractive I would see where it goes. I actually would have no problem if a woman had say a large (well designed) dragon across her back because she has embraced the artform (and its not a mishmash of competing images), wheras if the woman just had a phrase in chinese in tiny characters on her arm or a little flower on her foot I would view it as she got it just to be trendy. (though I have had gf get little ones to mark the death of her mother and a really tough period in her life, and another one that got one to mark a new life post divorce.... and I realise some use them as life event markers, and I can understand that).

I realise full sleeve tattoos is also embracing the art and some can look wonderful, but I would not want it on a gf. It would detract from her beauty...an unadorned women with a nice figure is already the best work of nature/evolution.

 

I know a few guys that got a couple simply because 'chicks dig them' and I realise that can be considered just as bad as trendy, but I do get that extra element of motive there, though the tattoo enthusiast could likely say thats a stupid reason.

[EasyHeart]

We judge people all the time. We judge them by their clothes, their hair, the way they walk, the kind of car they drive, the way they talk, whether they make eye contact, etc. Why wouldn't we judge them based on tattoos and piercings?

 

Especially when we're looking for someone to date, we're obviously judging them on their appearance and tattoos and piercings affect your appearance. I'm not a fan (esp. having seen what happens when people age) and I'd certainly judge a woman based on her tattoos (or lack of them).

 

We're not talking about taking away someone's civil rights because of tattoos; we're talking about whether we'd want to date them.

[kaylan]

^Funny...I know tons of girls who party hard with no tattoos

[yongyong]

do you know what 'displayed image' is?

 

 

 

^Funny...I know tons of girls who party hard with no tattoos

[William]

Read the thread. Let's steer it back to 'Are tattoos a turn off to any other men?' and avoid religious, political and class warfare and preserve the posting privileges of many posters. Thanks.