Are tattoos a turn off to any other men?

[espec10001]

Um...many people put considerable resaerch into finding a reputable tattoo artist. They look at his/her portfolios, ask around about the person for opinions, and many people form friendships with their artist too...especially if you get larger pieces done, because youll be spending a bit of time with them. So they arent just "strangers" who "doodle" on people. Body art is no different from canvas art. Some of it can be beautiful, some of it can be deemed not so nice too look at...depends on the work.

 

That's what people say to themselves, that there's some sort of "special" connection between the tattooer. Please! This guy just wants your money, he doesn't care if it's stupid. He's done it to himself, so now he wants to inflict it on others and get paid for it.

 

Throwing morals away? Tattoos have NOTHING to do with someones class or morals. Stop being ignorant. Either way....what does anyone elses body have to do with you? How does it impact your life?

You are crying about liberals who talk about "me me me"? Last I checked it wasnt the left who are overly individualistic and lack compassion for their fellow man...thats the right wing actually. The left is way less individualistic than the right...so dont try that.

 

I'm not crying at all, and it does affect me because I have to look at it and accept it which I don't. I don't agree to letting people trash themselves because it feels good and it's some sort of warped self expression. Draw on some paper, get a paintbrush and make a wonderful work of art, but I don't want to see walking advertisements of moral degeneracy everywhere I go anymore. It has gone too far. This is not left or right garbage, this is a mass-produced product being sold to people who can't think for themselves.

 

 

Bathroom pictures and conceited attitudes arent unique to people with tattoos, nor are they unique to "liberals". So please just stop.

Why the need to try and get on a political soap box? Tattoos have nothing to do with political views or morals. You need a strong dose of reality.

 

Yes, they are. "Look at my body, look at these cool tattoos I have. I can't think of any other way to express myself so I have to mark up my body so people can think I'm edgy/unique." BORING!

 

And last I checked, heroin is still heavily stigmatized. You cant put it in the same class as weed. You cant OD and kill yourself with weed....weed doesnt have the same long term health affects that deteriorate your body. Learn something why dont ya.

 

Ah yes, weed is so great, isn't it? Won't kill you outright, but have you ever been around stoners? It's like speaking to a vegetable. It deteriorates your mind just as bad. And the reality is, marijuana is always mixed with harder drugs and I know far too many cases where it started with weed and then progressed to other, harder drugs. Next thing, because this whole "what was once stigmatized no longer is" is a good thing, just like "medical" marijuana soon we'll have "medical" heroin because it's a giant trick. Face it, you don't care about future generations and what kind of world you're leaving behind because it's all about YOU, isn't it?

 

 

[QOUTE]And dont bring God into this. Many people who arent moral have a belief in God, and many people who are moral have no belief in God. Its all individual.

Wow...this right here shows how out of touch you are. And how hateful you are. So you want people with tattoos to be hated and persecuted and to be identified as "other" because of their right to modify their body?

 

Cry moar.

 

I don't even know why I'm debating someone who can't even spell simple words. No, it is not individual. This goes back to my whole point of why certain things are stigmatized and tattoos are part of that. Right and wrong, relativism, it's killing our society. Fornication is accepted now and people divorce all the time, they don't care about future generations. You want your kids to be covered in tattoos, gangbanging and smoking weed? Again, whether you like it or not, tattoos will be the "mark" in the near future, and I'm so glad that there are so many people who like to jump off the bridge because everyone else does. We need to reduce the population and what better way to distinguish the enemy from permanent body "modification"?

[espec10001]

Oh. MY. GOD.

 

Did you just teleport here from the 1940's??

 

Ewwwwwwww. There is nothing more disgusting in my opinion than judgmental rasist homophobes with "religious" values.

 

The reason why people are rejecting "god" or "religion" is because IT'S NO LONGER RELEVANT.

It's called evolution. Oh, but that's right, you guys don't believe in that eh.

 

Religion does not equal values. Wake up.

 

What proof do you have of evolution? Fossils? Because a racist Englishman some years ago claim it? The title of Darwin's book, the man who is responsible for this rubbish: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. You want to form your basis of belief around a racist Englishman? Like, EWWWWWW, that's so icky!

[Untouchable_Fire]

So, FELLAS, do any of you feel the same way?

 

Most tattoos are nasty.

 

Boob tattoos are the absolute grossest thing I've ever seen. I'm always tempted to ask those ladies to please cover that tattoo.

[ThaWholigan]

That's what people say to themselves, that there's some sort of "special" connection between the tattooer. Please! This guy just wants your money, he doesn't care if it's stupid. He's done it to himself, so now he wants to inflict it on others and get paid for it.

 

 

 

I'm not crying at all, and it does affect me because I have to look at it and accept it which I don't. I don't agree to letting people trash themselves because it feels good and it's some sort of warped self expression. Draw on some paper, get a paintbrush and make a wonderful work of art, but I don't want to see walking advertisements of moral degeneracy everywhere I go anymore. It has gone too far. This is not left or right garbage, this is a mass-produced product being sold to people who can't think for themselves.

 

 

 

 

Yes, they are. "Look at my body, look at these cool tattoos I have. I can't think of any other way to express myself so I have to mark up my body so people can think I'm edgy/unique." BORING!

 

 

 

Ah yes, weed is so great, isn't it? Won't kill you outright, but have you ever been around stoners? It's like speaking to a vegetable. It deteriorates your mind just as bad. And the reality is, marijuana is always mixed with harder drugs and I know far too many cases where it started with weed and then progressed to other, harder drugs. Next thing, because this whole "what was once stigmatized no longer is" is a good thing, just like "medical" marijuana soon we'll have "medical" heroin because it's a giant trick. Face it, you don't care about future generations and what kind of world you're leaving behind because it's all about YOU, isn't it?

 

 

 

 

I don't even know why I'm debating someone who can't even spell simple words. No, it is not individual. This goes back to my whole point of why certain things are stigmatized and tattoos are part of that. Right and wrong, relativism, it's killing our society. Fornication is accepted now and people divorce all the time, they don't care about future generations. You want your kids to be covered in tattoos, gangbanging and smoking weed? Again, whether you like it or not, tattoos will be the "mark" in the near future, and I'm so glad that there are so many people who like to jump off the bridge because everyone else does. We need to reduce the population and what better way to distinguish the enemy from permanent body "modification"?

Either take it to the Spiritual forum or the Politics forum. It's not wise to force your ideals on people.

[espec10001]

Either take it to the Spiritual forum or the Politics forum. It's not wise to force your ideals on people.

 

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. It affects dating, and because dating leads to reproduction and future generations, I'd say it's entirely relevant.

[Million.to.1]

What proof do you have of evolution? Fossils? Because a racist Englishman some years ago claim it? The title of Darwin's book, the man who is responsible for this rubbish: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. You want to form your basis of belief around a racist Englishman? Like, EWWWWWW, that's so icky!

 

Sorry.. i have better things to do with my life than participate in this ridiculous conversation.

 

[espec10001]

Sorry.. i have better things to do with my life than participate in this ridiculous conversation.

 

 

That's because you can't debate, you're too busy admiring your body "art". It's okay little girl.

[ThaWholigan]

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. It affects dating, and because dating leads to reproduction and future generations, I'd say it's entirely relevant.

Sure, but all this talk about loose morals and "trashing themselves" is deliberately antagonizing. If you don't like tattoos, fine. I am completely indifferent personally, sometimes it looks good, other times it doesn't. But I don't bash people for getting them, they aren't always following a trend, and unlike people in this thread, I don't use minor things like tattoos as an indicator of personality, class, behavior or morality.

[Million.to.1]

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. It affects dating, and because dating leads to reproduction and future generations, I'd say it's entirely relevant.

 

it has nothing to do with TATTOOs and that's what the topic is...

[Million.to.1]

That's because you can't debate, you're too busy admiring your body "art". It's okay little girl.

 

No... it's because at the tender age of 33, and after a serious LTR with a christian who parents ran one of the biggest churches in my city, I know how pointless any conversation with anyone as narrow minded and full of guilt and hate, as you clearly are, would be.

[espec10001]

No... it's because at the tender age of 33, and after a serious LTR with a christian who parents ran one of the biggest churches in my city, I know how pointless any conversation with anyone as narrow minded and full of guilt and hate, as you clearly are, would be.

 

Assumptions...assumptions. Who said anything about Christianity? I certainly didn't! Do you want your kids being covered in tattoos because mommy and daddy are?

[Crusoe]

Assumptions...assumptions.

 

Book, cover, etc.

[espec10001]

Book, cover, etc.

 

Humans aren't books...

[TLY22]

Assumptions...assumptions. Who said anything about Christianity? I certainly didn't! Do you want your kids being covered in tattoos because mommy and daddy are?

 

What's the point in starting a thread asking OPINIONS if you're just going to bash everyone who has something different to say? You're pretty immature for trying to attack someone's personal life because you can't think of another decent argument for yourself. This is downright ridiculous. Don't bring up a topic if you're not accepting of what other people have to say. Shame on you.

[Million.to.1]

Assumptions...assumptions. Who said anything about Christianity? I certainly didn't! Do you want your kids being covered in tattoos because mommy and daddy are?

 

 

I want my children to be happy. If that means getting tattoos then fine. My love is not conditional.

 

...and i used Christianity as an example. All religion is the same to me.

[Crusoe]

Humans aren't books...

 

Yes, they are.

[espec10001]

What's the point in starting a thread asking OPINIONS if you're just going to bash everyone who has something different to say? You're pretty immature for trying to attack someone's personal life because you can't think of another decent argument for yourself. This is downright ridiculous. Don't bring up a topic if you're not accepting of what other people have to say. Shame on you.

 

No, I understand the opinions. I just find it amusing how the majority has taken a turn.

[espec10001]

Yes, they are.

 

Last I checked books were square and made of paper.

[Crusoe]

Last I checked books were square and made of paper.

 

Look deeper.

[ascendotum]

Ink is just ugly and ages badly. There are so many men in London with tattoos all over their arms and legs, at the first sign of aging it starts looking like dirt. Not necessarily a turn off when under control but a lot of it is off-putting.

 

Some tattoos (artistic and not small) I think can actually enhance my attaction to the woman, but for the most part it wont make any difference in the attraction. The times I dislike tats is when they are cheap ones or a hotchpotch of types...lower back arse antlers, a dolphin on her belly, a cupey doll on her arm, some sanscript phrase on her back, crappy looking tribal tat on her other arm, a flower on her leg, a bunch of stars on her other leg, etc.

 

The women in the tattoo magazines are generally hot looking, even the rockabilly chicks with tons of tats, but I think if they started posting pics of women in their 40s,50s,60s with tats, it would change a few women's minds about them. I also don't think they age well, and I reckon there is going to be big business in tat removal in 20 odd yrs, though I have read it already gets a lot of customers now.

[xxoo]

Oh no, just ask:

 

 

Most folks that have tattoos say they are unique and artsy. They also say they get compliments and questions about the meaning of their tattoos. Some say it took years of careful thought and analysis.

 

I have never met a tattooed person that said he did it because others do it. There must be a lot of artists in the planet.

 

There is a difference between "my tattoo is unique" and "I got a tattoo to be unique".

 

Most folks I know get tattoos that hold some meaning for them.

[kaylan]

That's what people say to themselves, that there's some sort of "special" connection between the tattooer. Please! This guy just wants your money, he doesn't care if it's stupid. He's done it to himself, so now he wants to inflict it on others and get paid for it.

Did I say special connection? I said some people become friends with their tattoo artist and that many people do research to make sure they find an artist who does great work. Learn to read word for word. Dont put words in my mouth.

 

Artistry is a business like anything else is btw. And tattoo artists arent in it for the money, as most arent raking in cash hand over fist. Most do it because they love what they do.

 

I'm not crying at all, and it does affect me because I have to look at it and accept it which I don't. I don't agree to letting people trash themselves because it feels good and it's some sort of warped self expression. Draw on some paper, get a paintbrush and make a wonderful work of art, but I don't want to see walking advertisements of moral degeneracy everywhere I go anymore. It has gone too far. This is not left or right garbage, this is a mass-produced product being sold to people who can't think for themselves.

If you arent crying then why come here and start complaining and making judgmental comments?

 

And wow...your upset that you have to look at something? THEN LOOK AWAY. SIMPLE!

 

And just because YOU think people are trashing themselves doesnt mean they or most other people think so. Its not your body, YOU DONT HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, and you can avert your eyes.

 

And whats this crap about people not thinking for themselves? They get tattoos because they think for themselves and decide to have a tattoo or few. In what way are they thinking for themselves if they do exactly what you want them to do? Thats where your argument fails.

 

And spare me the crap about moral degeneracy. Morals have NOTHING to do with tattoos. Grow up. Im have tattoos and piercings myself. And guess what else? I also have college degrees, a business wardrobe, a career plan, and lots of morals, especially regarding relationships with women. So, if you saw me on any regular weekday, youd have no idea I was a bass playing rocker on the weekends, as Im able to rock a suit and fit in with any other corporate honcho in a large city.

 

Yes, they are. "Look at my body, look at these cool tattoos I have. I can't think of any other way to express myself so I have to mark up my body so people can think I'm edgy/unique." BORING!

Its much more exciting for them to express themselves the exact way you want them to huh? Makes perfect sense

 

Ah yes, weed is so great, isn't it? Won't kill you outright, but have you ever been around stoners? It's like speaking to a vegetable. It deteriorates your mind just as bad. And the reality is, marijuana is always mixed with harder drugs and I know far too many cases where it started with weed and then progressed to other, harder drugs.

Theres a difference between stoners, and people who enjoy a joint every other day. Same way like theres a difference between alcoholics and people who have a pint after a long days work. Its obvious youve been brainwashed by society into thinking..."oh no, marijuana is classed as a drug....so any amount of it is super bad and awful"

 

I dont hang around with deadbeat stoners who do nothing with their life but smoke weed. Same way I dont hang around any losers who sit a do one thing all the time...be it playing video games, drinking, or whatever. If someone is lazy and unproductive...then thats not my crowd. I wont blame pot because I know loads of people who are able to go to work, have careers, and those who can go to school and function like everyone else....despite the fact that they enjoy toking up a few times a week.

 

And no...there is no evidence that marijuana deteriorates your mind the way hard drugs like heroin does. Youre just repeating baseless propaganda. And now your spewing that "gateway drug" nonsense too. If my 4 years of college, and in my 10 years of being around people who smoke weed (im 25) I have only known a small percentage of people who moved onto harder things.

 

Hell I know people who dislike marijuana, but enjoy drinking or having mushrooms from time to time. So stop with the bs propaganda. Weed isnt a gateway. Someones personality will dictate if they want to try harder drugs. Ive smoked weed a few times, and never liked the feeling of being high. It makes me tired and does nothing much for me. I havent tried anything harder, but Im open to trying shrooms a few times since its all natural and you cant OD on it. Just like weed it doesnt have harsh long term affects on the mind or the potential to kill you.

 

Learn your stuff.

 

Next thing, because this whole "what was once stigmatized no longer is" is a good thing, just like "medical" marijuana soon we'll have "medical" heroin because it's a giant trick. Face it, you don't care about future generations and what kind of world you're leaving behind because it's all about YOU, isn't it?

Medical heroin? Are you out of your mind? The reason there is medical marijuana is because its a safe drug to use. It wont ravage your body the way hard drugs do. You are soooooo out of touch.

 

You must of come straight out of a 1940s propaganda comic strip.

I don't even know why I'm debating someone who can't even spell simple words. No, it is not individual. This goes back to my whole point of why certain things are stigmatized and tattoos are part of that. Right and wrong, relativism, it's killing our society.

LMAO. You are going to attack my spelling because I didnt have time to edit my post before the next poster came in the thread? Wow...thats how you know someone has lost an argument...they go the pathetic spelling critique route. Hilarious.

 

And things are individual bud. Plenty of bad and immoral people believe in God and dont have tattoos....but you dont see me bad mouthing them do you? Tattoos and a belief in God has nothing to do with someones morals. Humans dont need religion to be moral beings. Plenty of non religious folks are quite upstanding citizens.

 

And no...tattoos arent stigmatized in 2012. Most people accept them for what they are and go about their business. Just because certain work places dont allow visible tattoos doesnt mean society at large stigmatizes them. Plenty of places dont allow women to show cleavage or men to have long hair...doesnt mean either have a societal stigma on them.

 

Understand?

Fornication is accepted now and people divorce all the time, they don't care about future generations. You want your kids to be covered in tattoos, gangbanging and smoking weed?

Divorce happens. Its a fact of life. It doesnt mean society will be at its down fall. Do you know how hard it is to find one person to be with for the rest of your life? And people change as well...gone are the days where people stay in marriages they arent happy with just because of the stigma of divorce. Let people be happy...and if their marriage isnt...why guilt them into staying i it?

 

And if my kids ever want tattoos, Ill support their decision. And kids will experiment with weed. Im sure mine will, but Ill make sure to let them know that school and work is their top priority...not partying. And their sex life will be none of my business. As long as they arent making babies or catching diseases, I dont wanna know what they do, because parents arent honest with their parents about their sexual activity anyway. Let them enjoy their sexuality I say.

Again, whether you like it or not, tattoos will be the "mark" in the near future, and I'm so glad that there are so many people who like to jump off the bridge because everyone else does. We need to reduce the population and what better way to distinguish the enemy from permanent body "modification"?

Lmao...tattoos will not be the "mark", no matter how much you wish so. Tattoos have existed for thousands of years and arent going anywhere. Weve gotten to the point in civilization where most people arent stupid enough to persecute someone for simply having a tattoo. At least most people In the USA are smart enough (Im American and my experience is limited to this nation)

 

I hope you realize how idiotic you sound trying to brand people as the enemy for simply having tattoos or other body mods. Most piercings and tattoos are easily removed and covered up...so why you crying? You dont always have to look, like I said. And also, body modification has NOTHING to do with who is good or bad.

 

In reality, if or when the world needs a population reduction, idiots like you who try to stir up hate in others, will be the first to go. I remember a guy in the 30s tried to stir up hate and exterminate those who didnt look the way he wanted them to. Following the war, his nation was crippled because of his actions, and his adversaries are the ones whos ideals are now dominant throughout the rest of the world. In other words...youre acting like Hitler, and you cannot win when you act like that.

Edited August 15, 2012 by kaylan

[taiko]

Some tattoos (artistic and not small) I think can actually enhance my attaction to the woman, but for the most part it wont make any difference in the attraction. The times I dislike tats is when they are cheap ones or a hotchpotch of types...lower back arse antlers, a dolphin on her belly, a cupey doll on her arm, some sanscript phrase on her back, crappy looking tribal tat on her other arm, a flower on her leg, a bunch of stars on her other leg, etc.

 

The women in the tattoo magazines are generally hot looking, even the rockabilly chicks with tons of tats, but I think if they started posting pics of women in their 40s,50s,60s with tats, it would change a few women's minds about them. I also don't think they age well, and I reckon there is going to be big business in tat removal in 20 odd yrs, though I have read it already gets a lot of customers now.

Do "women" look at those magazines anymore then "men" look at Arnold in the muscle magazines. That first generation of women who got the hidden tattoos and the mish mash of competing tats is already in their 50s and their granddaughters are getting even more elaborate ink jobs. It is sort of like yet another generation of young men are sagging their pants like the gangsters of the 80s fresh out of county jail where belts were forbidden.

[TheFinalWord]

Forgive me if this has been posted already, I searched and couldn't find anything.

 

Anyway, I'm finding it very difficult to find women to date in my area because they're all tattoo'd. Now, before I get the "I didn't get tattoos for anyone else and I don't care what you think about them" speech, I want to know if any other guys find tattoos on women to be a HUGE turn off. At one time I guess they were seen as rebellious, but now every time I'm out in public or talking to a girl I notice the majority of them have ink!

 

It used to be a sign of being unique, now in my eyes it's a sign of following the herd because everyone's got them, and with women with the beautiful bodies they already have I don't understand it at all. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I've met countless chicks who were VERY PRETTY and had a nice body, but then I see the ink and I'm like "Another one? Really? Is this a disease or something?"

 

So, FELLAS, do any of you feel the same way?

 

For me a tattoo is not something that "turns me off" per say. I would not outright lose interest in a woman that had a tattoo. Myself, I have had various styles throughout my life up to and including metal gear head to toe

 

I never had a desire for piercings or tattoos. But that is me. I would not lose interest in a woman for a tattoo, but I think it reflects a difference in the way people express themselves, i.e. tattoo vs. no tattoos. So there may be a more underlying reason why we would not be compatible, i.e. different outlets of expression.

 

BTW, I am a Christian, and one of the greatest pastors I know has long hair, tattoos all over, and has a heavy metal ministry.

 

 

"For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

 

God cares more about a heart of hate, than ink on your skin

 

The stuff about Mosaic law and tattoos was to prevent a particular practice of idol worship relevant to surrounding countries during the era of ancient Israel. It has nothing to do with modern age. See Paul's arguments about circumcision.

 

Peace <><

[kaylan]

What proof do you have of evolution? Fossils? Because a racist Englishman some years ago claim it? The title of Darwin's book, the man who is responsible for this rubbish: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. You want to form your basis of belief around a racist Englishman? Like, EWWWWWW, that's so icky!

Fossil record. Duh.

 

Any paleontologist alive would laugh hysterically at you right now.

Edited August 15, 2012 by kaylan