Are girls tired of guys liking them?

[ThaWholigan]

Well, it depends. Not saying you will stop for life, but there will be times when you'll at least take a break. That, or it doesn't take as big of a toll on your psyche as it would for most people. No healthy human being would go through pain on purpose repeatedly and expect eventual happiness as a result.

 

Good to see you doing good for yourself lately, bro. I can perfectly understand guys like kansas city, though.

It will eventually look upwards for you too, you just have to see it that way. I have failed tons of times when it comes to girls, sometimes I struck out before I'd even started. When you lack confidence, it really shows. There are ways around it though, to build up a healthy level of self-worth that can translate to some kind of success, then one day it will just overwhelm you because you won't be dwelling on all your failures.

 

I concentrated on the things I liked in life, kept my social circle compact, and just started to enjoy things and take a more positive view on life. It came easy to me to do this fortunately, but it still needed a little work to do it. Try it for yourself, I literally just told myself that things will be fine and now things are changing for me.

[udolipixie]

No - I'm not saying you would operate like me, because we are two completely different characters. I'm saying you'd operate like any human being would. Part of the club/bar scene is to be seen and "liked" by the opposite sex. Denying that is pointless. If you, as the case for some men, never succeed at this, while having to witness tons of jerks making out with women you'd like, you are not going to enjoy it. And you are eventually going to avoid it. Any healthy human being would, including you, if you were in those shoes.

 

Actually there's a direct quote of you stating, suggesting or implying so.

Wanna make me quote it or can you look it up yourself?

Needless to say that this is not relevant and figurative anyways - but I get your style: You're always so literal (and boring).

 

Everybody seeks validation and happiness from others. It's just that some people get that without really "seeking" it actively. Others almost never get it so they have to be more active - meaning desperate and needy - about it. And they will cling on signs of interest because it just rarely happens for them. They are normal people, just less fortunate. So they react different to things that are special to them, when said things are routine for social 9s. You'd be desperate and needy as well if you were physically ugly as shiit, trust me. You and your pals are, however, very ugly on the inside I reckon... which is worse in my opinion. But that's just me.

 

I don't know about other people, but I'd trade being resented, laughed at and ignored for being lusted after for my looks and validated on the street on any day of the week and twice on sunday. And so would most women, actually.

So you're saying how human beings would operate. Perhaps I'm not a healthy human being as I wouldn't avoid clubs/bars because I'm not seen and "liked" by the opposite sex and jerks make out with men I like.

 

On you saying how most women would operate to me your trade is a bit misleading as women are often resented, laughed at, and ignored as well as many don't consider most of the approaches they get validation. Seems more like most women who aren't resented, laughed at or ignored and consider most of their approaches validation would do the same trade as you. Bit curious if you think women aren't resented when many men show resentment, women aren't laughed at when many make negative remarks about women's bodies, and women aren't ignored when many don't get attention from all or most men 24/7.

 

I denied your claim that I wouldn't go hit the bars or have fun at bars if guys there didn't want to be approached by me not that being seen and "liked" by the opposite sex is part of the club/bar scene. Being seen and "liked" by the opposite sex isn't a part of the club/bar scene I partake in so I wouldn't avoid the scene because it's not a reason I go there.

 

There's no direct quote of mine saying hitting the bars is a nightly thing for me there is a quote saying I would hit the bars if I wasn't able to befriend guys and I see how that it can suggest/imply that to you as. For me saying I'd likely hit the bars with my gals every night if I couldn't befriend guys isn't saying the action it's hitting the bars is a nightly thing for me rather it's saying how what I'd likely do in a situation completely different from my present one. Interesting I thought generally answers to hypothetical questions of situations completely different from your present situation were what 'you'd likely do' not 'what you presently do'.

 

I doubt everybody seeks validation and happiness to the extent that the guys with no social circle I met did. I highly doubt that desperately clinging to any sign of interest is a trait of a normal person or that having friends or a social circle isn't routine for only social 9s as I think most people have friends and a social circle.

 

Highly unlikely I'd be desperate and needy if I was unattractive as my happiness doesn't depend on my physical attractiveness and how appealing others find me.

Edited August 12, 2012 by udolipixie

[Failboy]

You like to write a lot crap in circles about nothing. Why is that?

 

See, let me emulate your style for a second:

 

I doubt everybody seeks validation and happiness to the extent that the guys with no social circle I met did. I highly doubt that desperately clinging to any sign of interest is a trait of a normal person or that having friends or a social circle isn't routine for only social 9s as I think most people have friends and a social circle.

I never said that it was only routine for social 9s in fact I was just using social 9s as a counterpart to those other guys you find so pathetic yet never limiting my stance to social 9s, it's news to me that saying Y is routine for X automatically means that Y is not routine for Z.

 

Seriously, why do you do this? I fail to see the merit in it, but if it gets you wet more power to you.

 

Highly unlikely I'd be desperate and needy if I was unattractive as my happiness doesn't depend on my physical attractiveness and how appealing others find me.

 

 

Keep telling yourself that. Remember that statement the next time your vagina gets wet cause some 9ish guy is about to be doing you - and not because of your weird hobby to get into arguments online, but because you are physically attractive.

[udolipixie]

You like to write a lot crap in circles about nothing. Why is that?

 

See, let me emulate your style for a second:

 

I never said that it was only routine for social 9s in fact I was just using social 9s as a counterpart to those other guys you find so pathetic yet never limiting my stance to social 9s, it's news to me that saying Y is routine for X automatically means that Y is not routine for Z.

 

Seriously, why do you do this? I fail to see the merit in it, but if it gets you wet more power to you.

 

Keep telling yourself that. Remember that statement the next time your vagina gets wet cause some 9ish guy is about to be doing you - and not because of your weird hobby to get into arguments online, but because you are physically attractive.

The only crap I see is you dictating how normal healthy human beings operate, dictating what most women would trade as if it's definitive facts, and doing an emulation when shown the logical doubts in your statements.

 

Amusing that your emulation seems you're admitting that these guys with no social circle aren't so because of lacking success with women but because of lacking success with people.

 

More amusing that you seem to think I clarify misintrepretations and miscommunication because it gets me wet rather than to ensure people are on the same page.

 

I know it to be true so I don't need will tell myself that it's highly unlikely I'd be as you say.

 

Unsure why you're telling me to remember a guy why a guy is going to be doing me as nowhere did I state why a guy would be doing me.

 

Really unsure if you also notice that you seem to have this weird hobby too as you started the "argument".

 

Quoting argument because I didn't consider it an argument just saying my opinions and my doubts on your statements of how you know what'd I do, what most women would do, and semmingly normalizing desperately clinging to any sign of interest.

Edited August 12, 2012 by udolipixie

[mario_C]

go to hell *******. i wish i never came here *******.

 

ive tried for a very very long time. forget it and i'll eat what i want, walk to the frige to get it, wear the same shirt a few days in a row, shower every few days. my way of saying **** the planet. i've read so many things on body langue but that doen't do good when i still don't get it in person. just forget it. i'm too far gone.

Textbook depression. Please get therapy.

Do you want sympathy or actual advice? Sounds to me like you'd rather give up than actually make changes.

Well said. Moving on...

[Shaun-Dro]

i don't have social status either. its not time but don't have a lot of friends and people are too busy watching paint dry to want to see me. they rather watch paint dry i think.

 

I'm a loner and do quite well with women when I'm in the mood. I'll admit, I have a bad attitude sometimes, which could annoy them, but in the same token, they're fascinated by it. Go figure.

 

But on the whole, women in this city do look unapproachable for the most part, but I don't care. I just keep my eyes on the ones that are willing to look my way, and it seems to be plenty. I just don't take them seriously.

[Failboy]

The only crap I see is you dictating how normal healthy human beings operate, dictating what most women would trade as if it's definitive facts, and doing an emulation when shown the logical doubts in your statements.

 

Amusing that your emulation seems you're admitting that these guys with no social circle aren't so because of lacking success with women but because of lacking success with people.

 

More amusing that you seem to think I clarify misintrepretations and miscommunication because it gets me wet rather than to ensure people are on the same page.

 

I know it to be true so I don't need will tell myself that it's highly unlikely I'd be as you say.

 

Unsure why you're telling me to remember a guy why a guy is going to be doing me as nowhere did I state why a guy would be doing me.

 

Really unsure if you also notice that you seem to have this weird hobby too as you started the "argument".

 

Quoting argument because I didn't consider it an argument just saying my opinions and my doubts on your statements of how you know what'd I do, what most women would do, and semmingly normalizing desperately clinging to any sign of interest.

 

Aren't you the sweetest sunshine, clouding your arguments to wriggle out of some when pushed into a corner - but sure you're just doing that to make sure people are on the same page. After all, you're all about harmony, right?

 

Why are your sentences so incoherent at times? You even edit your posts and everything, but for someone who prides herself on being so literal and logical you sure do write some weird "sentences". Or should I just find that "amusing"?

Like for example:

"Unsure why you're telling me to remember a guy why a guy is going to be doing me as nowhere did I state why a guy would be doing me."

I mean I get what you are trying to say.. but still, for someone who is so quick to jump on any word that might seem illogical you sure write some off stuff. Work on that, please.

 

But well, I see no merit in dissecting everything you said, I just want to clarify that the reason why I wrote what I wrote at the end of my previous post was to show you that you can't really comment on those issues on an insightful level as you have never been there. Spoiled, pretentious women just have no clue what it is like, especially if they hang around circles that make fun of people who are different. In your nice little life you hang with 9s and blow 9s and get licked by 9s whenever you please, so what do you know about guys who cling on little signs of interest? It's like a spoiled son of a billionaire talking down on guys who rush for free hot dogs.

 

p.s. .. I admit that such arguments get me hard sometimes. I thought it gets you wet as well, as showing stuff to your pals is pretty much telling.

Edited August 12, 2012 by Failboy

[udolipixie]

Aren't you the sweetest sunshine, clouding your arguments to wriggle out of some when pushed into a corner - but sure you're just doing that to make sure people are on the same page. After all, you're all about harmony, right?

 

Why are your sentences so incoherent at times? You even edit your posts and everything, but for someone who prides herself on being so literal and logical you sure do write some weird "sentences". Or should I just find that "amusing"?

Like for example:

"Unsure why you're telling me to remember a guy why a guy is going to be doing me as nowhere did I state why a guy would be doing me."

I mean I get what you are trying to say.. but still, for someone who is so quick to jump on any word that might seem illogical you sure write some off stuff. Work on that, please.

 

But well, I see no merit in dissecting everything you said, I just want to clarify that the reason why I wrote what I wrote at the end of my previous post was to show you that you can't really comment on those issues on an insightful level as you have never been there. Spoiled, pretentious women just have no clue what it is like, especially if they hang around circles that make fun of people who are different. In your nice little life you hang with 9s and blow 9s and get licked by 9s whenever you please, so what do you know about guys who cling on little signs of interest? It's like a spoiled son of a billionaire talking down on guys who rush for free hot dogs.

 

p.s. .. I admit that such arguments get me hard sometimes. I thought it gets you wet as well, as showing stuff to your pals is pretty much telling.

 

Clouding your arguments to wriggle out of some when pushed into a corner is you as you're the one who rather than address doubts of your statements did an emulation of my writing style than told me to remember why a guy is doing me.

 

Again to me there was no argument just stating my opinion and doubts of your statements which I never clouded:

Bit curious if by no gals like you do you mean no gals you like as I've encountered that can truly say no gals like him are the ones with no social circle who rarely go out.

I'm saying:

- Most likely when guys say "no gals like me" they mean "no gals" I like

- It seems the only guys with no gals liking them are ones with no social circle usually because not being liked isn't a gender thing exclusive to women but a people thing as many others don't consider them likeable or interesting enough.

 

Perhaps it's best suited for you to work on your lacking reading comprehension if the following was incoherent to you:

"Unsure why you're telling me to remember a guy why a guy is going to be doing me as nowhere did I state why a guy would be doing me."

 

What I should work on is not brushing off telling signs of lacking reading comprehension and likely an emotionally reactive agenda. Such as I probably shouldn't have brushed it off with a clarification that when I was talking about 'guys with no social circle who rarely go out' you equated it to 'guys without a huge circle that don't hit the clubs/bars often'.

 

I can comment on those 'issues' on an insightful level as I have an environment with a variety of people I interact with who have these 'issues'. Seems more like you don't like the comments as I think guys having no social circle is due to failures with people rather than they're responding like normal healthy human beings to being rejected by the gender they're attracted to. I do have a clue what's it like and know plenty about guys who cling on little signs of interest as I stated earlier they piqued my curiously and I interacted them with. Analogy wise it's more like 'It's like a spoiled son of a billionaire meeting guys who rush for free hot dogs and finding out they did so to get free food not out of lacking income/no income'.

 

On your analogy it's telling how it's 'talking down' to say the guys with no social circle likely aren't the way because gals rejected them but because people rejected them as they had low self-esteem, self-worth, or self-confidence and sought validation and happiness from others to the extent I doubt most people do.

 

The reason you wrote what you wrote at the end is probably because you couldn't address the doubts of your statements normalizing guys with no social circle and dictating that I would be desperate/needy if I was unattractive and I wouldn't go to bars if I wasn't seen or "liked" by the guys in there. Though your dictations seemed to be for normal human beings and it appears I'm not as I go to the bars to drink, listen to music, and dance and my enjoyment isn't

 

ps. Perhaps it's easier for your ego to equate a gal laughing at you and mocking you to her getting wet.

Edited August 13, 2012 by udolipixie

[Failboy]

You really have no shame huh? Just because you stay "confident" and shamelessly quote your badly written sentences just to irrationally question my flawless reading comprehension doesn't change reality. But maybe it changes your subjective perception of reality so I can see why you'd do it. It's very "amusing".

 

Your point about them being treated badly by society in general and not just by the opposite sex is accurate, but things are very intertwined. For instance, one can easily provoke the other. Therefore in conclusion, people who want to construct winning arguments can always act as if issue A provoked issue B even though it was the other way around, or, like in your case, act as if issue A is just a part of the greater issue B.

 

See, lack of appreciation of any kind can do bad things to a person's self-worth, especially if said person is still very young. Without any confidence in social situations, one might lack success in those situations, therefore develop an even worse lack of confidence and so on. At one point things are so bad that one doesn't even go out of the house anymore. Of course those people won't be good with people in general - not surprising. Yet it can all be provoked by things like rejection - of any kind. Possibly mostly rejection by the opposite sex.

 

Again, for someone like you who is overly literal stating that people you heard about through friends who have "no" social circle is just over the top. It's unrealistic. If they really have noone at all, you would have never heard about them, much less met and talked to them.

I was just kind enough to equate it to something realistic, because what you said didn't make sense... it was some bone I threw you, for the sake of argument so to speak.

 

And like I said, everybody needs validation from other people. It's human nature. It's just that men who are approached and blown by 9s while also having social circles full of 9s who appeciate them obviously wouldn't desperately seek validation because they naturally already get it and plenty.

People who are less fortunate and basically just sit at home playing videogames because they have not many options - they will cling on the feeling of even talking to some decent person and it's only natural.

 

 

But yes, my "dictations" were for normal people and not strictly for you specifically - which is obvious as I don't know you and have no reason to believe I did. So...

 

p.s. perhaps it's easier for you ego to mock people who are different instead of treating them like equal human beings.

Edited August 13, 2012 by Failboy

[udolipixie]

You really have no shame huh? Just because you stay "confident" and shamelessly quote your badly written sentences just to irrationally question my flawless reading comprehension doesn't change reality.

I don't do things I'd be ashamed of.

 

LMAO @ the following being a badly written sentence:

Most likely when guys say "no gals like me" they mean "no gals" I like

 

LMFAO @ the irony of you talking about what people do when they want to construct winning arguments then proceeding to do such right after like you've being doing this entire discussion.

 

I know my point is accurate for the guys I met. I also know your point isn't accurate for the guys I met as it isn't interwined going by the details of their life I got from the guys themselves and their families.

 

It's unrealistic to you that I know and met guys with no social circle as you now seem to equate guys having no social circle to having noone (no family, colleagues, and people they encounter in life that talk about them). There's a difference between 'having noone' and 'having no social circle' and I made it quite clear and you seemed you understood this difference from your earlier post saying "No social circle at all, huh? So basically no friends?".

 

Like I said I doubt everybody needs validation from other people to the extent those guys did. I know you lack reading comprehension so I'll bold the keywords in the previous sentence for you.

 

Telling how your analogies focuses on 9s and have an extreme view such as either 'you get validation from having a social circle full of 9s or you desperately seek it'. In my experience many guys without a social circle full of 9s naturally get validation to the extent that they don't desperately seek it like those guys with no social circle did.

 

Your dictations were for what you think is normal and it's not obvious your dictations weren't for me as well what with you repeatedly telling me how I'd react. Plus responding to how I say I'd react with statements like "Don't kid yourself, you know god damn well that's not true."

 

p.s. I mock people who make illogical and irrational statements if that's people different than me seems my sentences aren't incoherent. Though this discussion has started my gal pals to begin mocking guys unsuccessful with gals it's been absolutely amusing to me.

Edited August 13, 2012 by udolipixie

[DreamerDeceiver]

When I went out last night to the city with my good friend girls looked mad when we wanted to approach. Some looked really really mean when we just looked. I dont know why

 

They are doing it to ward off all the unattractive guys/chumps/wusses who wouldn't have the balls to talk to a woman in the first place. Women love attention, especially from the right men...

[RiverRunning]

A negative reaction could be so many things:

 

1. The approach

2. Your appearance

3. The woman's personality/mood: maybe it's been a stressful night?

4. How often she gets approached...and if your approach is too similar to guys who are just looking to score.

 

 

If ever a guy were to approach me, I would be uncomfortable because it never happens and I might be a little clipped just to cut the conversation short - again, this has never happened to me - but I don't think I'd be outright rude. I wouldn't be saying 'bye' to someone who said 'hi' to me.

[Charlie Harper]

True history:

 

A friend of mine who is quite ugly but a real chick magnet used to make bets with me about hooking up with a woman. Once we were in this place with lots of guys and very few women, so there was this super good looking woman being angry and rejecting tons of guys, so I told him " how about that Brunnete there", he said lets wait 20 more minutes, he saw her approached her told her something, she put a big frown then laughed and she danced with my friend, they ended going out for like 6 months.

 

Conversation:

 

Hey do you want to have wild sex with me?

WHAT ARE YOU CRAZY? NOOOO

Ok ME NEITHER !!!!, (pause) In fact I don't even like you, but your girlfriends are dancing and you look kind of alone, want to dance...?

 

She went for it....

[Jane2011]

For the most part, it doesn't annoy me when guys like me or show interest (even if I think they're very unattractive). There is one, in particular, however, who I am disgusted by. And there's no logical reason for it. He's actually kind of good-looking, plus he's 6'1" and has a great body. I'm just disgusted by his liking me. For other reasons. These things can't be explained sometimes. There are definitely less attractive guys -- even really nerdy ones -- who have liked me, who I'm flattered by their liking.

 

I'm not mean to the guy who disgusts me, though I'm not nice, either. I just avoid eye contact and make a point of rushing past his presence to avoid conversation with him. (I see him somewhat regularly in a work capacity).