yongyong Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I've tried hundres of different openers. It was something that related to her profile. 'hey I've been to that place in your picture', 'hey I like doing this too', 'hey your dog is so cute I want to meet him' etc. I basically wanted to show I actually read her profile unlike most guys. (Beta mind. would she give a damn?) Sometimes, I find a girl who has very similar interest. I feel the connection already. I write something in a decent length that she would see it as connection. I wait for the reply but it never came back. Guys, this is wasting time. Unless it's something you enjoy doing it and don't expect a good outcome, don't do it. Think about it. You carefully read her whole profile and you spent some time to write up something that might trigger her interest level. You should get upset if you invested much time in writing. But in her view, you are just one of the guys hitting on her. If you are not her type, it goes to the trash right away. It's true that girls don't want guys just check out their pictures and send out 'copy & paste' messages to them. This is f-ing B.S and you should ignore it. Just don't tell them about it. Treat it like sending out flyers to customers. You can customize the flyer for each customers. But is it worth your time? or wouldn't it be better to spend that time on sending out more generic flyers? (100 customized flyers Vs 1000 generic flyers) The customer simply doesn't need your product. Although you put an effort to customize it, it will go to trash can after 1 second. Generic flyers will work fine if the customer was in need of your product. You can make your flyer to stand out more. (have a good picture, good head line, good product description) But it will work only up to certain degree since in the end, it's about whether they want your product or not. I do not give out any special eyes to women. I just treat them like one of thousands of pedestrians. I simply hand out my flyer. If they just walk away, I am fine with that. If they want to ask more question, I will answer it for them. There were some Lines that brought decent replies. it was obviously better than customized comments since I didn't invest any emotion. (why the heck should I invest my emotion on some online chick anyways) 'hey I can teach you many things.....' (this girl replied as 'oh please teach me many things'. I ended up meeting her. It was some weird message to a girl who doesn't find me attractive. it was different to her obviously.) 'hey I am just going to say 'hi' and see how it goes' (just neutral opener. she will reply if she likes you.) 'hey you seem like a lovable dork' (some weird one said 'did you just call me whale dick?' other ones said 'yes I am a lovable dork ' I can't guarantee the result since we define 'good result' differently and your profile is different than mine. Anyways, don't get caught up with some chicks you find really attractive. Just treat all of them like potential customers and send out mass flyers.
paperboy48 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Anyways, don't get caught up with some chicks you find really attractive. Just treat all of them like potential customers and send out mass flyers. Is this your summary of all of this?
MrCastle Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Having an attractive face and body are usually good openers 2
paperboy48 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Having an attractive face and body are usually good openers Dude....Not cool
durentu Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 This will help you out ... Exactly What to Say in a First Message ''OKCupid Blog" 1
Author yongyong Posted August 9, 2012 Author Posted August 9, 2012 You always come up with pathetic comments. Yes I am not in top 5%. But I am not in bottom 5% like you. Seriously what kind of looks are we talking about to date an average american woman? I am pretty sure you will say the same excuse when you see a ghetto woman pushing the cart down the street 'she won't date me since I don't look like a model' I see those old, freak & ugly looking guys walking around and creeping girls out at a bar. I am pretty sure they have the same thing in mind 'f-ck girls, you have to look like a Dior model to get them' No truth is you should look like at least normal human being. If you are not, sorry nobody can do anything for you. talk to a plastic surgeon Are you under 35 and and in the top 5% of guys for your age group in terms of looks? Then you may just have a shot with online dating. Of course you could always make a "witty" profile (girls seem to go for juvenile Dane Cook humour). That alone will get you some first dates from girls who are expecting to be entertained when they having nothing better to do. Won't lead to anything physical though.
MrCastle Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 The fact of the matter is, looks are the bottom line when it comes to online dating. I've never looked at an unattractive girl's profile and thought "man, she's not much to look at, but that profile of hers, wooo! she really got me going. I'm gonna message her." It's the same for women. Both men and women are strictly going for looks when it comes to OLD. If you pass the looks test, they'll give your profile a gander. In real life, attraction is natural, and easier to build. You see a cute little girl in class, online she would have totally blown you out, but after a semester of seeing you 3 times a week and getting to know you, hey, she likes what she sees and she's willing to give you a chance. That doesn't happen in online dating. People are wasting their time thinking up these crafty, witty openers. When a girl says "message me if you have something interesting to say" she means "message me if you're attractive and have something interesting to say. hell, even if you don't have anything interesting to say, message me if you're attractive." I hate to be harsh but that's really the reality of OLD for most people. You can't look at OLD as a serious replacement for the dating world. It's a joke. Treat it as such. Develop thick skin and take it for the joke it is. Real world interactions will always trump OLD. 2
Author yongyong Posted August 9, 2012 Author Posted August 9, 2012 So with that kind of package, you can't attract average American women? Wait, are you the one who wrote 'I am 8 but I can only attract 3 girls?' Now you are saying we need a lot of money too......jesus.... why don't you keep that belief to yourself? so I don't have to offend you. What are you, in 6th grade? I'm not interested in getting into a pissing contest. But for the record, I got accepted into beautifulpeople.com with flying colours using a full on face shot. I also have a good body, complete with a 6-pack, delts, etc. So you can do away with "you're just ugly" comments. The truth is you better be willing to spend a lot of money if you want to sleep with slender girls under 30, because you ain't getting it for free (otherwise you wouldn't even be here). But if you want to keep living in fantasy land and believe you can become some kind of "playa" just by uttering the right words, well, go ahead. Keep getting the same old sh*tty results. The fact of the matter is, looks are the bottom line when it comes to online dating. I've never looked at an unattractive girl's profile and thought "man, she's not much to look at, but that profile of hers, wooo! she really got me going. I'm gonna message her." It's the same for women. Both men and women are strictly going for looks when it comes to OLD. If you pass the looks test, they'll give your profile a gander. In real life, attraction is natural, and easier to build. You see a cute little girl in class, online she would have totally blown you out, but after a semester of seeing you 3 times a week and getting to know you, hey, she likes what she sees and she's willing to give you a chance. That doesn't happen in online dating. People are wasting their time thinking up these crafty, witty openers. When a girl says "message me if you have something interesting to say" she means "message me if you're attractive and have something interesting to say. hell, even if you don't have anything interesting to say, message me if you're attractive." I hate to be harsh but that's really the reality of OLD for most people. You can't look at OLD as a serious replacement for the dating world. It's a joke. Treat it as such. Develop thick skin and take it for the joke it is. Real world interactions will always trump OLD. True. Most guys will do worse on OLD even though they don't have problem having fun conversation with women in reality. Some guys might do better because of their looks even though their conversation skill sucks. When you put too much hope into it, you will get more disappointed when it doesn't work out. That's why I am telling guys just treat women there like one of many fish you can catch in a pond. However, when you go out on a date with her, you can lie to her you've been there only couple weeks, messaged only several people, didn't use copy and paste.
Author yongyong Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 let me tell you one thing. go to local chinese restaurant and find this nerdy looking bus boy. yeah that's me. he's banging white women. how does it make you feel? yeah, the chinese guy with the username "yongyongchingchong" on a dating site must be a real winner. I was going to make a really racist and funny post, but I'm on my 20th infraction so I'm pretty sure william would rageban me.
proseandpassion Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Someone give me some openers for writing guys. I write thoughtful, engaging messages and don't get a response most of the time. I'd like to spend less time and energy writing these bozos.
Author yongyong Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 just say hi how are you. that's all you need especially as woman. If you are not getting replies, it should be because of pictures. Someone give me some openers for writing guys. I write thoughtful, engaging messages and don't get a response most of the time. I'd like to spend less time and energy writing these bozos.
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