brahmabull117 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I don't know how true that is, but there you go with that "can't" talk again . How do you know you "can't" get that big normally? You live on planet earth or Neptune? This is one of the world's biggest natural bodybuilders who has dedicated his entire life to bodybuilding - http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/insidethelife1b.jpg This is the Rock - http://dwaynejohnsoncentral.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/1115-the-rock-splash-1-credit2.jpg?w=550&h=515 Yea...you're not going to get anywhere near the Rock's build without cycling steroids for a good period of time 1
ThaWholigan Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 You live on planet earth or Neptune? This is one of the world's biggest natural bodybuilders who has dedicated his entire life to bodybuilding - http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/insidethelife1b.jpg This is the Rock - http://dwaynejohnsoncentral.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/1115-the-rock-splash-1-credit2.jpg?w=550&h=515 Yea...you're not going to get anywhere near the Rock's build without cycling steroids for a good period of time Well I'm not gonna make any assumptions about that one, he might not be. I'm not a bodybuilder, nor do I want to be as big as The Rock either, so it's not a goal of mine. I'm merely questioning why you feel that you "can't" do something and if you have actual evidence as to why exactly you cannot do it. As you can tell, I don't really like the word "can't" . 1
brahmabull117 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Well I'm not gonna make any assumptions about that one, he might not be. I'm not a bodybuilder, nor do I want to be as big as The Rock either, so it's not a goal of mine. I'm merely questioning why you feel that you "can't" do something and if you have actual evidence as to why exactly you cannot do it. As you can tell, I don't really like the word "can't" . When somebody is 50 LBs bigger than the world's biggest natural bodybuilders...yea you can say he's not natural Good god, please don't go on fitness forums and actually claim that there's a chance of the Rock being natural. You will get laughed at by everybody 1
Sanman Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Rock on creatine? Wait, you're serious? Rock is on a whole lot of steroids. He's got 21 inch arms in that pic, you can't get anywhere near that big naturally Most bodybuilders are on a mix of HGH, anabolics, and creatine. The creatine helps with energy for workouts and not necessarily size, but it does cause you to retain water and bloats you. The HGH and/or anabolics will give you size/mass, but he looks a bit bloated in that pic. Edited August 9, 2012 by Sanman
brahmabull117 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I'm so sick of you over critical Richard Simmons types, Brahma Bull. Constantly overcriticizing every little detail of completely normal and potentially productive human bodies out of your own self-hatred and vanity. Where did I criticize anybody? All I said was that the OP looks about average to me. I never said he was bad looking at all and there's certainly nothing wrong with being average It's a noble task to wish for a strong, healthy, fit body, it's correlated with the mind and soul of course. But you take it to the next level, "Bro". What do you do with your body that is so amazing and productive? Nothing, I lift massive amounts of weight and try to get my arms as big as possible. I find it to be massively thrilling Or better yet, what do the mental midgets of the WWF you seem to admire so much do with their roided up bodies? They play-fight to a script written by some executives looking to sell toys and pay-per-view specials. The Rock is a mental midget? He's actually very well spoken, intelligent, articulate, funny, etc... What's the point of having any type of body, even one you obsessively tweak to perfection, if you spend more time obsessing about it than anything else? I rarely see a man with a perfect model's body doing anything strength-taxing and worthwhile with it, like building houses for people to have shelter or working the land so people can eat. What's the point in having big creatine created water sponges for pecs then? Just because they look good coupled with your convertible and the woman in the passenger seat? Maybe you should look at exactly why men with fit and tough bodies were romanticized in history, instead of looking at the surface and coming to the conclusion that it's only purpose is "to look good". Hey I never said anything bad about people who use their bodies for functional purposes but I'm just not one to care about things like that I would rather get big and pay somebody to paint my house. To each their own
ThaWholigan Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Where did I criticize anybody? All I said was that the OP looks about average to me. I never said he was bad looking at all and there's certainly nothing wrong with being average Nothing, I lift massive amounts of weight and try to get my arms as big as possible. I find it to be massively thrilling The Rock is a mental midget? He's actually very well spoken, intelligent, articulate, funny, etc... Hey I never said anything bad about people who use their bodies for functional purposes but I'm just not one to care about things like that I would rather get big and pay somebody to paint my house. To each their own Uh, you kinda proved his point.... I agree with him on quite a few things in that post. When I say I want to be athletic and have a good, strong physique, it isn't for no reason. It's because it's functional for me to be able to do most of the things I want to do (be able to fight, run, jump, carry things, build things, use my strength to help people, etc etc). Basically, there is a point as to why I would like to have a strong build. With you, there doesn't seem to be one, and that is what he is arguing. 1
brahmabull117 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I'm not going to bicker back and forth with you Brahma, I was just hoping you would read what I say and meditate on it. But of course, meditation requires a soul and yearning for knowledge that you were unfortunately, born without. You might have the body, and that might get you laid on its own, but in the end you are just 1/3 of a man. You seem to have trouble with the concept of a masculinity independant of how it relates to women, it's a powerful streak I see in your posts and it's pretty common nowadays. You want to get huge just to sit on the porch and look good shirtless for girls passing by while another man paints your house, something a real man would do for himself just because he can. I'm already pretty big for the average population - I've got 17 inch arms and 60 inch shoulders and about a 31 inch waist. I am pretty close to the end of my genetic potential and I'm fine with that, I'm never going to take steroids Anyways, I have no problem when it comes to functional abilities. I can do all the activities I need to do. The only functional reasons I would say I lift weights for is to be able to beat up people if I get into a fight, be able to pick up heavy things like when we're moving or I'm helping people move and then be able to be dominant in the bedroom with women. As far as your point about meditation. I actually enjoy doing that every once in a while
ThaWholigan Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I'm not going to bicker back and forth with you Brahma, I was just hoping you would read what I say and meditate on it. But of course, meditation requires a soul and yearning for knowledge that you were unfortunately, born without. You might have the body, and that might get you laid on its own, but in the end you are just 1/3 of a man. You seem to have trouble with the concept of a masculinity independant of how it relates to women, it's a powerful streak I see in your posts and it's pretty common nowadays. You want to get huge just to sit on the porch and look good shirtless for girls passing by while another man you'd probably think needs to work on his triceps yet is using his body for something more productive than you, paints your house, something a real man would do for himself just because he can. I don't think it's completely unrelated to women, but a figment of the manifestation of masculine energy with regards to the social construct we make for ourselves. Basically, it's far from the "only" reason why one would do it. I used to laugh at the massive gym dudes at the club who got passed over for the dudes who weren't posing and posturing in the corner looking all bulky and sh*t. They never got anywhere. I like the first sentence still, about meditating on it. You know, sometimes you're such a dick, but you say some real sh*t . I'll give you that
brahmabull117 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Uh, you kinda proved his point.... I agree with him on quite a few things in that post. When I say I want to be athletic and have a good, strong physique, it isn't for no reason. It's because it's functional for me to be able to do most of the things I want to do (be able to fight, run, jump, carry things, build things, use my strength to help people, etc etc). Basically, there is a point as to why I would like to have a strong build. With you, there doesn't seem to be one, and that is what he is arguing. I don't actually work out for women. I realize that physique is only maybe 10% of the battle anyways I work out cause I love bodybuilding. If I did it just for women, I would drop 30 LBs and just be happy with being 170 LBs. That's the perfect size for most women
ThaWholigan Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I'm already pretty big for the average population - I've got 17 inch arms and 60 inch shoulders and about a 31 inch waist. I am pretty close to the end of my genetic potential and I'm fine with that, I'm never going to take steroids OK, that's all well and good but...... Anyways, I have no problem when it comes to functional abilities. I can do all the activities I need to do. The only functional reasons I would say I lift weights for is to be able to beat up people if I get into a fight, be able to pick up heavy things like when we're moving or I'm helping people move and then be able to be dominant in the bedroom with women.Do you know how much bodybuilder guys I know who get their asses whooped on a regular basis? Muscles for nothing, my cousin used to say. So you lift to beat people up in a fight, but do you actually learn how to fight? Like a martial art or something? Boxing? Lifting stuff - yeah sure, I get that. Bodyweight would also help with that. Being dominant with women? Physically......maybe. But being dominant with a woman in the bedroom is as much psychological as physical. You got that down? As far as your point about meditation. I actually enjoy doing that every once in a whileIf you really meditated, then why do you have such negative thoughts about dating? Why are you afraid to approach? Surely things like meditation would help with your state of mind. I can only assume you don't meditate properly. Do you even know how to stay in the present moment?
brahmabull117 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Do you know how much bodybuilder guys I know who get their asses whooped on a regular basis? Muscles for nothing, my cousin used to say. So you lift to beat people up in a fight, but do you actually learn how to fight? Like a martial art or something? Boxing? I'm a pretty good wrestler. I can get people on the ground and in some form of submission maneuver in seconds I don't train in boxing cause I'm not going to punch in a street fight. I don't want to break my fist. Street fights are all wrestling anyways Lifting stuff - yeah sure, I get that. Bodyweight would also help with that. Being dominant with women? Physically......maybe. But being dominant with a woman in the bedroom is as much psychological as physical. You got that down? Absolutely, I've been very dominant in the bedroom the few times I've had the chance If you really meditated, then why do you have such negative thoughts about dating? Why are you afraid to approach? Surely things like meditation would help with your state of mind. I can only assume you don't meditate properly. Do you even know how to stay in the present moment? No I have done exactly what you're talking about and it's fantastic I guess I'm just really f*cked up. What can I say?
SJC2008 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) IMO you look thin but now scrawny I don't see ribs lol and there is some definition. Edited August 9, 2012 by SJC2008 edit
ThaWholigan Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I'm a pretty good wrestler. I can get people on the ground and in some form of submission maneuver in seconds I don't train in boxing cause I'm not going to punch in a street fight. I don't want to break my fist. Street fights are all wrestling anyways No. No they aren't. Street fights are no holds barred. It's not all wrestling. You sound like those BJJ guys that start choking dudes on the floor until 2 other dudes kick the sh*t out of them. You might have to break your fist knocking somebody out so you can cut and run. Versatile fighting. If they pull weapons, you better make sure you can run too. Wrestling alone won't save you. Of course, this all depends on whether you're a good boy on road or not. Absolutely, I've been very dominant in the bedroom the few times I've had the chanceCool. No I have done exactly what you're talking about and it's fantastic I guess I'm just really f*cked up. What can I say?No, you're just doing it wrong. You probably sit in a room on a cushion for an hour and think that's the only way to meditate. You can meditate while you're walking down the street, and stay in the present moment. If you can't stay in the present moment while you're talking to someone or about to approach a girl, you're doing it wrong. 1
brahmabull117 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 No. No they aren't. Street fights are no holds barred. It's not all wrestling. You sound like those BJJ guys that start choking dudes on the floor until 2 other dudes kick the sh*t out of them. You might have to break your fist knocking somebody out so you can cut and run. Versatile fighting. If they pull weapons, you better make sure you can run too. Wrestling alone won't save you. This is irrelevant anyways. I don't get into fights because I treat everybody very nicely No, you're just doing it wrong. You probably sit in a room on a cushion for an hour and think that's the only way to meditate. You can meditate while you're walking down the street, and stay in the present moment. If you can't stay in the present moment while you're talking to someone or about to approach a girl, you're doing it wrong. Good point, you're exactly right
ThaWholigan Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 This is irrelevant anyways. I don't get into fights because I treat everybody very nicely Same here, but as I've observed, you can't rely on that all the time. Some people are dicks, and they will try to put you in a position you can't get out of. It's cool that you wrestle, but you're gonna have to learn to strike when you need to. Good point, you're exactly right I know. You have to explore the knowledge and resources at your disposal though, someone like me won't always be here to tell you these things and help you. 1
pink_sugar Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Scrawny? No. Lean and muscular? Yes. On the shorter side? Yes, but it's not like you are 5'2" with most women taller than you. 1
MuscleCarFan Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 I am going to agree with my wife, pink_sugar, you look lean and muscular so I wouldn't worry about your looks if I were you.
Emilia Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Wait, you're trolling right? Beckham looks absolutely awful - small arms with a wide waist Why do you tell people they are trolling just because they disagree with you? I don't like Beckham but he doesn't look awful. For many women his physique is ideal. The men in the photos you have posted in the thread so far look grotesque.
Emilia Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) I'm a pretty good wrestler. I can get people on the ground and in some form of submission maneuver in seconds I don't train in boxing cause I'm not going to punch in a street fight. I don't want to break my fist. Street fights are all wrestling anyways street fighting is someone grabbing you from behind and smashing you into a brick wall head first. You absolutely do not want to be on the ground and have some guy sitting on your chest while his mate kicking the s**t out of your kidneys. Your attitude will get you into big trouble You hammer fist, use the flashy part of your palm or the first two knuckles on your fist when you punch, etc. Ignorance is not your friend. Edited August 9, 2012 by Emilia
Jamesblame Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 street fighting is someone grabbing you from behind and smashing you into a brick wall head first. You absolutely do not want to be on the ground and have some guy sitting on your chest while his mate kicking the s**t out of your kidneys. Your attitude will get you into big trouble You hammer fist, use the flashy part of your palm or the first two knuckles on your fist when you punch, etc. Ignorance is not your friend. Street fights suck. 40 seconds of fun and then chipped teeth, police, sprained or broken wrists/fingers. No thanks. I'll stick with gym bouts.
Emilia Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I've seen those videos, and to be blunt those people that tell you to do that don't know what they're talking about. Throwing hammer fists in a fight is a terrible idea, as A) it doesn't garner as much power B) you're bound to hit something hard that will hurt you more than them, like their forehead or top of head C) It's impossible to come back to the defense when you throw a hammerfist quickly enough. My suggestion would be short, surgical jabs. The reason a lot of people get hurt punching in a street fight is they go for those wild, bllind hay makers. Better to aim for the jaw, temples of the head, or solar plexus with good combinations, with a well formed normal fist, not any fancy karate chops or hammerfists people in self-defense videos tell you to do. And even then, there is a chance you'll lose and get rushed anyway. Speedbag work works wonders if you want to get good at street fighting. Krav Maga 101 will get you further than boxing without gloves when you break the small bones in your hands
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