jobaba Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Since this crap about men's height has been discussed 1,000 times, I'd like to put a different spin on it... Guys, if you were dating a woman was 5'5" and you were 5'10" and you found out she wouldn't have dated you if you were 5'8" or shorter, would you still date her?
Author irc333 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Posted August 7, 2012 I brought this up in another thread but you ignore. You are too much like somedude81. Yeah, I choose to ignore, most advice given here doesn't help anyhow...so why do anything about it and just let nature run it's course. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. And pretty much the only thing you suggested is relocating, and I said it wasn't financially feasible to give up a career to relocate.
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Yeah, I choose to ignore, most advice given here doesn't help anyhow...so why do anything about it and just let nature run it's course. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. And pretty much the only thing you suggested is relocating, and I said it wasn't financially feasible to give up a career to relocate. You really do sound like somedude.
eleanorhurting Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Yeah, I choose to ignore, most advice given here doesn't help anyhow...so why do anything about it and just let nature run it's course. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. And pretty much the only thing you suggested is relocating, and I said it wasn't financially feasible to give up a career to relocate. would you be open to meeting someone not in your area and if it is great then relocating?
ThaWholigan Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 You really do sound like somedude. Glimpse into the future? Let's hope not...... 1
Author irc333 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Posted August 7, 2012 You really do sound like somedude. I really don't care.
Content Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Not the most important thing, but it matters to her. No woman wants to look tougher and stronger than her man. This includes height. Just like how no man wants to look small and minuscule compared to his woman. He wants to be her protector, keep her safe. Even if he can do this, our brains automatically say no when we see a smaller man with a bigger woman. I wouldnt totally agree with that since there are plenty of women who are attracted to feminine pretty boys.. To be honest i think part of it is social status..they want to be seen with something that people desire.. Women have talll dark and handsome wired into them at an early age and a short guys is lower[no pun intended] on the totem pole.. 1
Bristolius Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Since this crap about men's height has been discussed 1,000 times, I'd like to put a different spin on it... Guys, if you were dating a woman was 5'5" and you were 5'10" and you found out she wouldn't have dated you if you were 5'8" or shorter, would you still date her? I made a joke about this in a different thread, but I wouldn't like it. Here's another one about hate for baldness. Yeah yeah, my hair is rich and luxurious. I'm down here toots.
jobaba Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I made a joke about this in a different thread, but I wouldn't like it. Here's another one about hate for baldness. Yeah yeah, my hair is rich and luxurious. I'm down here toots. Yea. I wouldn't like it either. It seems like most people only want a person unshallow enough to accept them. If I was with a woman and it somehow came out that she'd not have dated if I was any shorter, I'd seriously consider dumping her. I'm old. I don't need to settle in that department.
silicone Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 ohai height thread. It's doing nothing to help me get out of my own social anxiety cycle though OP, you're 5'8". You have a much wider dating pool than I do. Suck it up.
wheream_i Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 See, this is why I don't do online dating. Aside from it being tacky, I have never gotten a hit on my profile. I'm pretty sure it's because of my height which is 5'6". That's the first thing women look at. When it doesn't fit their "standards", meaning, they're only 5'2" barefoot but in heels, they're 5'11", then they don't want anything to do with you. That's they're problem, not mine. Nevermind that their pic is from eight years ago and they now weigh in at 185 lbs. I've always had success meeting someone in person and talking face to face. Some have been the same height as me in heels and some (most) have been taller. They see you for who are immediately, not for what your stats online are. That and it also must be my striking good looks and my winning personality and huge cack.
Radu Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 ...as part of your height. I don't get some of these women, they are always throwing in, "Oh, I wear heels, so he must be taller than me in heels, I am 5'6", but come to 5'10", so if you're not at least 6 feet tall , I won't date you" I mean, come on, isn't that a bit cheesy to include your heels? Give a 5'8" man a break LOL! With that logic i hope they don't mind my : - fake doctor's degree from Harvard - the good looking clothes of which i only have 1 suit because otherwise i'm dirt poor - coming to my parent's basement because my penthouse apartment is being renovated - the ping pong balls in my briefs - the fact that i calculated my dick length with an added 3 inches because at one point while i was half drunk i measured it right - my platform shoes - paying for the date as i forgot my wallet home
oaks Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 ...as part of your height. I don't get some of these women, they are always throwing in, "Oh, I wear heels, so he must be taller than me in heels, I am 5'6", but come to 5'10", so if you're not at least 6 feet tall , I won't date you" I mean, come on, isn't that a bit cheesy to include your heels? Give a 5'8" man a break LOL! Wear heels yourself. I'm serious. Then you can quit whining about this issue. I'm serious about that, too. How much height do your shoes give you? 1
todreaminblue Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I'm 5'6'' and most men I date are around my height. I think I just notice them more, maybe I'm too lazy to look up or something Having said that, women love wearing heels and they don't want to tower over their man so the heels issue will remain I'm afraid. 5'8'' is not a bad height, the average woman is 5'4'' in the US I believe and most don't wear heels more than 4'' I dont know about other women but I honestly used to wear stillettos to give the illusion of height because I am short and most of my friends were tall and I wanted to not be the leaning post of the group i was often an arm rest.Funnny but rude at the same time so I would go willowy in stillettos.I dont care about height on men though and would prefer they not wear stillettos, I dont anymore I prefer flat boots flat shoes and good supportive sneakers.If anyone tries to use me as an arm rest.I have perfected the look.It works.
iris219 Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Since this crap about men's height has been discussed 1,000 times, I'd like to put a different spin on it... Guys, if you were dating a woman was 5'5" and you were 5'10" and you found out she wouldn't have dated you if you were 5'8" or shorter, would you still date her? If I found out a guy wouldn't have dated me if I was 50 lbs heavier, I wouldn't care. In fact, I would expect this. Men who like me like thin women. Why would I be surprised if they said they wouldn't have found me attractive if I had been heavier? 6
TheFinalWord Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 ...as part of your height. I don't get some of these women, they are always throwing in, "Oh, I wear heels, so he must be taller than me in heels, I am 5'6", but come to 5'10", so if you're not at least 6 feet tall , I won't date you" I mean, come on, isn't that a bit cheesy to include your heels? Give a 5'8" man a break LOL! Well it depends on the way you look at it. If some woman is that superficial, why would you even want to be with her? She did you a favor by making her superficiality very blatant. Now you don't have to waste time.
Els Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 If I found out a guy wouldn't have dated me if I was 50 lbs heavier, I wouldn't care. In fact, I would expect this. Men who like me like thin women. Why would I be surprised if they said they wouldn't have found me attractive if I had been heavier? Personal preference, I guess. I wouldn't equate 2 inches to 50 lbs... probably more like 10 lbs, in the grand scheme of things. If the guy I was with said that he wouldn't have been with me if I was 10 lbs heavier, it says a lot about his priorities and attitude regarding women and their appearance. It doesn't necessarily say BAD things, but it still says a lot. In that case, like jobaba, I don't think I would be interested in pursuing the relationship, because that attitude denotes a lack of compatibility, to me. I'm not interested in being with someone who makes 2 inches or 10 lbs their primary concern in choice of partners. 50 lbs or 10 inches, on the other hand, would probably be understandable to me. 3
carhill Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Haven't seen such ads but will share a couple of anecdotes. The wife and daughters of the 'cook' at the wedding on Sunday sat across from me at the reception. He's always so busy I rarely see he and his wife standing next to each other and, when he finally took a break for the last dance, I realized, even in flats, that she was taller than him. Even his teenage daughters are taller than him. Eye-opener. The other anecdote was a long conversation on the beach with a young lady I hadn't seen in awhile. We had a great time catching up as I hadn't seen she and her boyfriend since our last remodel project. Later, at the reception dining table, when they came up and I stood to greet her, I was a bit shocked that she towered over me. Ha, she had put on some four inch heels after wearing sandals on the beach. Barefoot, she's my height (5'11"). I never had really noticed before. Her BF, a former male model, matched up really well as he's 6'3". Great couple. When I read of people ragging on 'beautiful people', I think of them and smile. Exceptions to every rule. Women do what they do and have the preferences they have. One, meaning they or the reader, can see what one chooses to see. There's always a choice. 2
rana-rana Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 ...as part of your height. I don't get some of these women, they are always throwing in, "Oh, I wear heels, so he must be taller than me in heels, I am 5'6", but come to 5'10", so if you're not at least 6 feet tall , I won't date you" I mean, come on, isn't that a bit cheesy to include your heels? Give a 5'8" man a break LOL! i'm like 5'2 and I hate heels. guys like me short. they feel like since i'm pr i can get away with it lol. i'm not into tall dudes anyway. i like my men like 5'6-5'9 anyway. thats the tallest i been dating so far.
Radu Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 If I found out a guy wouldn't have dated me if I was 50 lbs heavier, I wouldn't care. In fact, I would expect this. Men who like me like thin women. Why would I be surprised if they said they wouldn't have found me attractive if I had been heavier? Technically you are right; you can't alter height though through normal means. That's their beef.
oaks Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 on the beach with a young lady That reminds me of something else I was thinking about earlier. If irc333, or other guys of average-ish height, can get past whatever the profile says and actually get to go on a date... how about make it a shoe-neutral date. Beach (no shoes) is a great example! Or Bowling, roller|ice skating, hiking, some sport. Anything where she can't wear her heels! (She can save them for date 2, by which time she already likes you.) 1
grkBoy Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) I won't go on the attack because I understand IRC333. I've known the actual guy online for a while now. I think half these topics are useless, but I see them as venting. He's frustrated. He's gone a long time in his life with constant failures in dating. He's asked for advice, followed it to an extent, and yet still ends up mainly being rejected by women of all shapes and sizes. Yes, he's even tried for single moms and fat women. I know that part of his problem is where he lives. It's a small town, more like rural suburbia. There are single women there, but they have shown in many ways they'll die alone before lowering their standards. While I grew up in a major city, I can understand how much years of rejection can destroy someone. I personally think he holds too high a moral code sometimes, but I can also understand and respect him when he doesn't want to drastically change who he is to please someone. I personally don't think he's some creepy guy, or total social inept weirdo, or bible-belt freak...but he (like me most of the time) is one of those guys who pretty much doesn't excite women at first look. Outside of becoming some shallow yuppie, hitting the gym and getting the "bro" attitude...or moving to a major city...I don't know what else could help him. I notice many of the "new singles" in his area are typically recently divorced women who have the "I just dumped my jerk of a husband, and now I want a phenomenal guy to replace him" attitude. I personally think he should do the MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) thing like I did years ago. Granted I ended up meeting the right woman a few years later, but it helps sometimes to just free yourself of the pressures of dating and do other things in life. I guess I see where he comes from, since I used to feel just as bitter as he comes off now. It sucks when you try and try and try to be this "ideal man" women want, only to continually fail as you watch women go after the men that are the opposite of what they say they want. It's why I had to learn to love myself and be ready and willing to die alone before "lowering myself" to impress the "lust" side of a woman. In reference to the topic, I can imagine what it feels like to be rejected instantly because of your height...something you can't easily change. It's like a woman being instantly rejected for her breast or nose size, or her height. I'm thankful to be 6' tall. As much as we HEAR women say it's not that big a deal, we keep SEEING the opposite. Edited August 7, 2012 by grkBoy 2
silicone Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I won't go on the attack because I understand IRC333. I've known the actual guy online for a while now. I think half these topics are useless, but I see them as venting. He's frustrated. He's gone a long time in his life with constant failures in dating. He's asked for advice, followed it to an extent, and yet still ends up mainly being rejected by women of all shapes and sizes. Yes, he's even tried for single moms and fat women. I know that part of his problem is where he lives. It's a small town, more like rural suburbia. There are single women there, but they have shown in many ways they'll die alone before lowering their standards. While I grew up in a major city, I can understand how much years of rejection can destroy someone. I personally think he holds too high a moral code sometimes, but I can also understand and respect him when he doesn't want to drastically change who he is to please someone. I personally don't think he's some creepy guy, or total social inept weirdo, or bible-belt freak...but he (like me most of the time) is one of those guys who pretty much doesn't excite women at first look. Outside of becoming some shallow yuppie, hitting the gym and getting the "bro" attitude...or moving to a major city...I don't know what else could help him. I notice many of the "new singles" in his area are typically recently divorced women who have the "I just dumped my jerk of a husband, and now I want a phenomenal guy to replace him" attitude. I personally think he should do the MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) thing like I did years ago. Granted I ended up meeting the right woman a few years later, but it helps sometimes to just free yourself of the pressures of dating and do other things in life. I guess I see where he comes from, since I used to feel just as bitter as he comes off now. It sucks when you try and try and try to be this "ideal man" women want, only to continually fail as you watch women go after the men that are the opposite of what they say they want. It's why I had to learn to love myself and be ready and willing to die alone before "lowering myself" to impress the "lust" side of a woman. In reference to the topic, I can imagine what it feels like to be rejected instantly because of your height...something you can't easily change. It's like a woman being instantly rejected for her breast or nose size, or her height. I'm thankful to be 6' tall. As much as we HEAR women say it's not that big a deal, we keep SEEING the opposite. Thank you. Being constantly rejected (in my case, at least 100 in 3 years) with most of them saying the same thing does break you up. I can easily go out and get laid, sort of how I ended up in a woman's house only to have her two year old kid crawling over me and waking me both from sleep and women, but finding someone who wants a relationship is just that more difficult when you are significantly flawed in their eyes.
jobaba Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) Personal preference, I guess. I wouldn't equate 2 inches to 50 lbs... probably more like 10 lbs, in the grand scheme of things. If the guy I was with said that he wouldn't have been with me if I was 10 lbs heavier, it says a lot about his priorities and attitude regarding women and their appearance. It doesn't necessarily say BAD things, but it still says a lot. In that case, like jobaba, I don't think I would be interested in pursuing the relationship, because that attitude denotes a lack of compatibility, to me. I'm not interested in being with someone who makes 2 inches or 10 lbs their primary concern in choice of partners. 50 lbs or 10 inches, on the other hand, would probably be understandable to me. Exactly right on every point. Your attitude regarding looks in your partner says a lot about your attitude about the way you see people even socially and platonically. And like with the 2 inches and 50 lbs, everything is relative. There was a poster a while ago, can't remember who it was, who was tall and said that his GF wouldn't have dated him if he were short, even if he were taller than her. That to me is a huge turn off. It means even though they know you for the person you are, something like a few inches can be a dealbreaker. Eliminating you if they don't know is an entirely different thing. That's just not the kind of person I want to be with. They'll just end up saying and doing stuff that will piss me off in the long run. Edited August 7, 2012 by jobaba 1
PJKino Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I won't go on the attack because I understand IRC333. I've known the actual guy online for a while now. I think half these topics are useless, but I see them as venting. He's frustrated. He's gone a long time in his life with constant failures in dating. He's asked for advice, followed it to an extent, and yet still ends up mainly being rejected by women of all shapes and sizes. Yes, he's even tried for single moms and fat women. I know that part of his problem is where he lives. It's a small town, more like rural suburbia. There are single women there, but they have shown in many ways they'll die alone before lowering their standards. While I grew up in a major city, I can understand how much years of rejection can destroy someone. I personally think he holds too high a moral code sometimes, but I can also understand and respect him when he doesn't want to drastically change who he is to please someone. I personally don't think he's some creepy guy, or total social inept weirdo, or bible-belt freak...but he (like me most of the time) is one of those guys who pretty much doesn't excite women at first look. Outside of becoming some shallow yuppie, hitting the gym and getting the "bro" attitude...or moving to a major city...I don't know what else could help him. I notice many of the "new singles" in his area are typically recently divorced women who have the "I just dumped my jerk of a husband, and now I want a phenomenal guy to replace him" attitude. I personally think he should do the MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) thing like I did years ago. Granted I ended up meeting the right woman a few years later, but it helps sometimes to just free yourself of the pressures of dating and do other things in life. I guess I see where he comes from, since I used to feel just as bitter as he comes off now. It sucks when you try and try and try to be this "ideal man" women want, only to continually fail as you watch women go after the men that are the opposite of what they say they want. It's why I had to learn to love myself and be ready and willing to die alone before "lowering myself" to impress the "lust" side of a woman. In reference to the topic, I can imagine what it feels like to be rejected instantly because of your height...something you can't easily change. It's like a woman being instantly rejected for her breast or nose size, or her height. I'm thankful to be 6' tall. As much as we HEAR women say it's not that big a deal, we keep SEEING the opposite. Well i think you said something important and thats trying to impress the "lust" side of a women which a lot of men dont hear I think men have been told how personality is more important and women arent that into looks and i think its a total lie and have men wondering why they always pick their ahole good looking friend over them From my experience women are just as but possibly more into looks then Men,i see the stuff my good looking friend gets away with whos kind of a self centered dude, and how they laugh at everything he says and hes not that funny,or how married women openly flirt with him I think we downplay how looks and animalistic lust play in attraction and relatinships ad its bigger then we even let on regardless of pc stuff people want to say about attraction
Recommended Posts