Woggle Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 This is a spin off thread. I know I am starting another gender war thread but I notice how many women simply just seem to be anti-male. Look at some of the comments on this board which show a complete lack of empathy towards what the men go through. I just see so much subtle contempt for men on here even when it is clear that a guy is going through some painful stuff. Trust me I have't been looking at any other articles but it is not hard to notice.
Kamille Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I see a lack of empathy for women on this board here. You're right. It does make me feel that the specific posters who cannot show empathy for women actually dislike women. I get the impression they hate women. I do notice, however, that there are a lot of posters here, male and female, who are in happy relationships. I myself really appreciate my guy friends, my dad, my family. Based on my relationship with these folks, I can tell you: I love men. 7
verhrzn Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I have no idea what threads you are always reading that show no empathy for men struggling with dating. Somedude's threads get TONS of female posters with helpful suggestions and tips and support. You yourself get lots of support and positivity. Maybe it's confirmation bias, but I see a lot more instances of men having no empathy for women... The thread I recently created filled up with tons of responses about how, nah, most women don't have a hard time in dating. Some posters even went so far to suggest that the majority of women are sluts sleeping with a minority of men. How is that for empathy?? I certainly like men... some of the best people I know are men. But I find myself very frustrated with dating. If the guys who express frustrating at dating are not, in your eyes, women-haters, then why are the women who express frustration with dating man-haters? 4
anne1707 Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Based on the above posts Woggle, which seems more like the truth to you? 2
Ross MwcFan Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Lol, I see a lack of empathy for both genders on here! 7
january2011 Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I'm with Kamille and verhrzn. And the contempt for women and lack of empathy I've witnessed are not so subtle. For the record, I love men and I love my SO. I don't always get on with some men. But then I don't always get on with some women either. Whenever, I get lumped into the nebulous category of "hating men" just because I'm a woman, I shake my head and hit the ignore button. I can't help being a woman but that doesn't mean that my views are automatically wrong because I'm not the correct gender. 6
sally4sara Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 This is a spin off thread. I know I am starting another gender war thread but I notice how many women simply just seem to be anti-male. Look at some of the comments on this board which show a complete lack of empathy towards what the men go through. I just see so much subtle contempt for men on here even when it is clear that a guy is going through some painful stuff. Trust me I have't been looking at any other articles but it is not hard to notice. What was there to empathize with in that guy's thread Woggle? He didn't speak of any circumstance he was going though painful or otherwise. He simply stated that he dislikes women for what seemed to me to be their upbeat attitude - a "hurray for me and everyone" attitude was what he was complaining about. Why should I need to empathize with hateful people just so screwed up you can feel I don't hate men?
Author Woggle Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 He was complaining about a hurray for me and screw everyone else attitude is what he was complaining about and I can't stand that in men or women. Those kind of people make the world what it is today.
udolipixie Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I think far less women are anti-men while far more men are anti-woman. I also think that it takes quite little for a woman to be deemed anti-male while it takes quite a lot for a man to be deemed anti-woman as his hatred is seen as venting, frustrations, a phase, or justified anger at what self-entitled unrealistic standards having golddigging evil leeches women are. Bit curious as to what comments lacking empathy towards what men go through you've seen as it seems to me the standard is men showing a complete lack of empathy towards what womem go through ala "women have it easy/easier". More curious as to what subtle contempt for men you've seen as it seems to me the standard is blatant contempt for women. 2
veggirl Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Lol, I see a lack of empathy for both genders on here! I agree with this 100% The men are much more open about it though. They will be very in your face and blatant about it. The women, honestly I'm not even sure if they recognize they come off that way. I don't think that they do. I am not counting trolls btw. I ignore that s.hit, obviously those dudes are anti-woman (not just lacking empathy). eta: I am referring to lacking empathy, not hating the entire gender. In case it wasn't clear 1
sally4sara Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 He was complaining about a hurray for me and screw everyone else attitude is what he was complaining about and I can't stand that in men or women. Those kind of people make the world what it is today. A me first attitude is what I see out of both genders. The times I see a guy be nice to a woman is usually when he finds her attractive, hoping to get something from her in return. It probably plays out that way with women to. Notice though that he isn't terribly bothered by self serving attitudes out of men or self serving attitudes on the whole. He is bothered when women have self serving attitudes. That is bigotry. 1
Janesays Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I love men. My boyfriend (And even my ex boyfriends) are all generally good people. I have male colleagues that are absolutely brilliant who I admire and respect greatly. I idolized my Dad. My brother is one of my best friends. And my best friend is also a male. Some of the guys on this board, however, tend to scare me. No lie, I get a little squirmy in my chair when I read some of the nastiness that's aimed at woman. That's why I often disappear from this board from time to time. I need to get outside and realize that MOST MEN aren't this way at all. 4
Author Woggle Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 A me first attitude is what I see out of both genders. The times I see a guy be nice to a woman is usually when he finds her attractive, hoping to get something from her in return. It probably plays out that way with women to. Notice though that he isn't terribly bothered by self serving attitudes out of men or self serving attitudes on the whole. He is bothered when women have self serving attitudes. That is bigotry. That is because he is affected in the dating world be women who have a screw everybody else mentality. I don't see too many women here who are bothered when women do wrong either. I also wonder how many women would be willing to jump on front of a bullet for a man like those two guys at the Colorado shooting.
udolipixie Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Notice though that he isn't terribly bothered by self serving attitudes out of men or self serving attitudes on the whole. He is bothered when women have self serving attitudes. That is bigotry. Likely it's not bigotry rather bias/confirmation bias as he likely doesn't see any self-serving attitudes out of men or self-serving attitudes on the whole probably associating it as a woman thing.
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I hope I'm one of those men whose posts scare others. At least that's something.
sally4sara Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 That is because he is affected in the dating world be women who have a screw everybody else mentality. I don't see too many women here who are bothered when women do wrong either. I also wonder how many women would be willing to jump on front of a bullet for a man like those two guys at the Colorado shooting. This is just more of your cop out strategy. PEOPLE being self serving is a problem for PEOPLE. The whole world isn't about dating. We have to conduct business with each other and live among each other - not just the people we date. And one of the victims in that tragedy said her female friend saved her life. You just don't notice it when women are selfless.
Im_Thinking Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I love being a man. I have fun. I play electric guitar. I love my family. I have no problem starting conversations with people. As I get older, I gain more experience and new knowledge. I walk in dark alleys, I walk from office building to my car without the fear of being raped. If I am rejected? Whatever. There is someone else out there. I keep looking. What? Its acceptable for me to date around before I commit? Its encouraged for males to date multiple girls. Oh to top it all off; I can urinate wherever I please. Yeah, being a male sure sucks... From my perspective, guys have life pretty dang easy. Dating especially.
sally4sara Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Likely it's not bigotry rather bias/confirmation bias as he likely doesn't see any self-serving attitudes out of men or self-serving attitudes on the whole probably associating it as a woman thing. That is bigotry. When you don't notice the white person walking behind you at night but you do notice and worry when its a black person - that is bigotry.
Author Woggle Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 This is just more of your cop out strategy. PEOPLE being self serving is a problem for PEOPLE. The whole world isn't about dating. We have to conduct business with each other and live among each other - not just the people we date. And one of the victims in that tragedy said her female friend saved her life. You just don't notice it when women are selfless. She saved another woman. Would a woman be as selfless for a boyfriend or husband?
dreamingoftigers Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I just LOLed seeing this thread title above "I do not most women." So, um, okay.... I guess that answers the reciprocal question if anyone thought to ask it.
sally4sara Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 She saved another woman. Would a woman be as selfless for a boyfriend or husband? Good god woggle but you are full of excuses aren't you? Do you really think anyone had enough time to ponder "oh well the person I can save isn't a woman so I won't bother"? It would be a split second reaction. 1
Author Woggle Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 Good god woggle but you are full of excuses aren't you? Do you really think anyone had enough time to ponder "oh well the person I can save isn't a woman so I won't bother"? It would be a split second reaction. I just wonder if most women would do that for a male SO.
Janesays Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 She saved another woman. Would a woman be as selfless for a boyfriend or husband? This makes me sad. I mean, are you saying that if a Mother had to run into a burning building to save her kids, you think she'd just grab her girls and leave the boys to burn? Do you REALLY believe that?
veggirl Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I just wonder if most women would do that for a male SO. I wonder if most women would drop their baby on their way out and leave it behind, leaving another child behind to boot. I mean c'mon, we could do this all day. What's the point? 2
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