Leigh 87 Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 Think about it: if a well educated women starts talking to a blue collar worker, and really thinks he is great - the sort of guy she would love to date.... And goes on a few dates with him, and finds him to be very intelligent, interesting, and every bit as suitable as a " white" collar worker.... I think that women would not suddenly go " oh....... yeah, this is not going to work.. I only date college educated men"..... It is very likely a well educated person will come across a blue collar worker and find them to be just as intellectually stimulating and interesting as their white collar friends are; however, unfortunately, in online dating, the blue collar workers do not have the chance of even comming across white collar girls to date, because the are dicounted before they have a chance to make an impression.... And by the way, I do not have degree level job - I am about to start as a travel agent, and a personal trainer; NO white collar worker I am friends with looks down on my career choice. 1
Frogwife Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 I think there is a HUGE difference between skilled trades and teenagers who help with carrying shingle bundles up a ladder to do a roof. I will say this... my (soon-to-be-ex) husband was a roofer for 22 years and one of the many things I admire about him is that he worked his f*cking ass off every f*cking day (excuse my French). It is backbreaking labor for not much more than the French minimum wage, in the heat, the cold, year round. He rarely complained and he went to work even when he wasn't feeling well. It was a quality that I really respected and that type of work ethic carried over to other parts of his life/personality. He is a homeowner and has always lived within his means (no debt other than mortgage). Just like I said in my 'short men' thread(s) - you never know what you might be missing out on by eliminating someone out of the gate for arbitrary criteria, without getting to know them individually. 3
utterer of lies Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 It is very likely a well educated person will come across a blue collar worker and find them to be just as intellectually stimulating and interesting as their white collar friends are I'm afraid that has not been my experience.
Bristolius Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 No, but they are strict about looks and age. Not much better or more noble. I'm very strict about this. They must be middle-aged and kind of dumpy.
Author henderson14 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Posted August 4, 2012 My experience with even well paid construction workers is that maybe 10 -15% of them are at the level of intelligence of an average college educated white collar worker. While working construction, I for the first time met conspiracy theorists! People that don't have a basic understanding of things like their own pensions, world events, the economy, and other things. I even had teachers in my program like that. They often compensate for their lack of knowledge by actually making up off the wall things and presenting them as fact! There is also this dumbing down attitude about things. Like just basic speaking, punctuality, and vocabulary usage. Sometimes guys would be poked fun at it if they used complicated words or spoke a little too punctual. When your around people like that all day you naturally start to become like that.
phineas Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 Because you speak for most men? I can tell you all of my closer guy friends (all of whom are college educated professionals...some with masters degrees) expect their girl to be college educated and have some sort of career path. They seek an equal of sorts. So as I originally said, plenty of guys in this day and age want a chick whos on their level. You know there are guys out there who dont care about only looks and what gives them a boner ya know. I've noticed this trend lately with younger guys & I approve. I personally don't care how much a woman makes as long as she is paying her bills & isn't looking to me for a lifestyle upgrade. That's how I got financially screwed the last time with my now ex-wife. She used my wallet to live beyond her means. 1
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 People use all kinds of criteria to judge/size-up potential love interests...that's something that's never going to change especially with the lack of face-to-face interaction...all they have to go off is your words and your pictures so I think to a degree it's understandable. However the bottom line is, whether online or off is that people really don't seem to be aware what is good for them in a relationship which is why they value these other criteria to find a partner...they use it as a kind of direction and for some people it's even mandatory that their SO meet them because they wouldn't be satisfied, It would make them feel bad/judged and possibly not give them the future they envision for themselves. I firmly believe there are a lot of people that would choose income/security over love. It's just about prestige to a degree, especially If you've worked hard in your life to accomplish what you have...somehow people feel that is apart of the expectations they can impose on someone else even though that's their own personal life and aspirations..I think people tend to live in a bubble and not really know any better than what they've experienced, and they develop these twisted judgments without even my knowledge...so that's how they make and base their decisions in life. They forget that relationships, emotions, compatibility, chemistry have nothing to do with titles, degrees or even race, background, culture...so many things are used to find a suitable mate and I think people forget what they are truly trying to gain and then wonder why they aren't satisfied when they find this person who was good on paper and from the outside but it just didn't "click" or work-out. It's like buying a car by the way it looks and the impression people get from it, but you don't even really like to drive it and you've driven cars worth half the money that had better performance and gave a more satisfying/fulfilling experience. I struggle with understanding how people can be so narrow minded, and settle for something that they think is the "best" when they know something doesn't even feel right about it. I guess In he end you just do what you feel like you've got to do or what's the "right" decisions...that's that is just the way it is. Everyone has been dealt different cards in life and has experienced different things, it would be foolish imo to determines someones worth and value by their accomplishments and what they could give you in return from that...but that's just not how the world works. Expectations are associated with certain criteria, that's why people impose them on others...satisfy me, be good enough for me, live up to my standards while I completely ignore my own faults. If you go with the flow in life and believe every little trend and conformity of thinking in life you'll be just as lost as everyone else. You've got to stick to what you believe in, and get what you want out life and not worry about what other people think or judge you for it because chances are they're not any more happy with what they're doing. Be honest about yourself and don't be ashamed of it...you work blue collar, you work it. You get called stupid or assumed you aren't intelligent then let them put their own foot in their @ss...you have nothing to prove or earn from anyone else, your life is yours to do what you like. This is why you are totally one of the coolest guys on the board Ninjain.
phineas Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 My experience with even well paid construction workers is that maybe 10 -15% of them are at the level of intelligence of an average college educated white collar worker. While working construction, I for the first time met conspiracy theorists! People that don't have a basic understanding of things like their own pensions, world events, the economy, and other things. I even had teachers in my program like that. They often compensate for their lack of knowledge by actually making up off the wall things and presenting them as fact! There is also this dumbing down attitude about things. Like just basic speaking, punctuality, and vocabulary usage. Sometimes guys would be poked fun at it if they used complicated words or spoke a little too punctual. When your around people like that all day you naturally start to become like that. But, i've also met people educated well beyond their intelligence. I may be a computer nerd, but I also enjoy manual labor & pretty much renovated my house myself. If you see me out in public I'm usually wearing workboots, torn/stained jeans & a tshirt or sweat shirt in also beat condition & i'm heading to a home depot. People think i'm a construction worker when they see me in walmart or shopping when i'm on my way home from splitting wood at my parents house. I think it's funny how people assume i'm just a grunt. Hell i'll walk right up to people I work with in my beater clothes & it takes them a second to process it's me. LOL!
veggirl Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 err licesened contractors can be bringing home 100k/yr. as long as a guy is gainfully employed--to the point that he can support himself and save some money every month, I don't care if he works construction or IT or whatever. As long as he isn't a lawyer or cop or working more than 50 hrs a week.
phineas Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 err licesened contractors can be bringing home 100k/yr. as long as a guy is gainfully employed--to the point that he can support himself and save some money every month, I don't care if he works construction or IT or whatever. As long as he isn't a lawyer or cop or working more than 50 hrs a week. That's the rub. Top earners are usually working longer hrs.
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