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An Article On Who Has The Power In Dating

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verhrzn Established Member

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We already knew everything was to blame on men and society.

 

... Yes, because that's exactly what the article said. It was so good of you to provide quotes from it to support your well-reasoned argument. Capital academic show there.

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brahmabull117 Established Member

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fantastic article

Radu Established Member

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It's incomplete.

 

It is also pop culture heavy.

 

Guess why it doesn't apply well to reality ?

fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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It's not about gender. It's about individuals. Men don't have any more power than women or vice versa. But some individual people can have less or more power.

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Emilia Established Member

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hahaha responses on this thread have been predicted by the author :D

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verhrzn Established Member

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It's incomplete.

 

It is also pop culture heavy.

 

Guess why it doesn't apply well to reality ?

 

And yet another well reasoned post, fully supported with evidence! Very detailed argument, I am now in complete agreeance after you opened my eyes with 3 sentences.

brahmabull117 Established Member

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I think the reason that guys say that women have all the power in dating is because they only notice the really hot ones and ignore the rest of female society

 

 

Yes, the top 20% of women have immense power in our society because of the value we assign to female looks, but the rest struggle just as much or even worse than men do

 

 

I would rather be an average man than an average woman. Because of the ability that men have to hugely improve their value through personality, an average man just have more potential than an average woman (not to say that women don't have any potential, but I would say men have a little more)

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Lonely Ronin Established Member

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Who Has The Power in Dating? | Paging Dr. NerdLove

 

A lot of guys on this forum should read this article. Over, and over, and over again. So get to it!

 

This is pretty damn derogatory towards men V.

 

Guys frequently get hung up on numbers; how many people have you slept with, how quickly can you get a woman to sleep with you. They have a tendency to fall for the old axiom that sex is like pizza; even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.

 

The problem is that men are viewing women through the prism of the male experience: the goal of getting sex as quickly as possible, as easily as possible.

 

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hahaha responses on this thread have been predicted by the author :D

 

My response was pretty well thought out and reasonable. :confused:

brahmabull117 Established Member

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This is pretty damn derogatory towards men V.

 

 

 

Go on male forums. Lots of guys are obsessed with having a huge number of sexual encounters and getting laid all the time

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It's not about gender. It's about individuals. Men don't have any more power than women or vice versa. But some individual people can have less or more power.

 

I take that to mean: 'Yes, I agree with the author'. ;)

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I take that to mean: 'Yes, I agree with the author'. ;)

 

Nope. I don't agree with the author. Because he says things like this:

 

The problem is that men are viewing women through the prism of the male experience: the goal of getting sex as quickly as possible, as easily as possible. While exceptions certainly exist, women on the whole don’t approach casual sex the way that men do; they’re not looking for how quickly they can find a pole for the hole, they’re looking for someone who excites them and can provide the sex they want.

 

Is this something that I'm supposed to relate to and say "yeah he's right"? If he's not trying to make sweeping generalizations then he's just writing an article that isn't even needed.

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Go on male forums. Lots of guys are obsessed with having a huge number of sexual encounters and getting laid all the time

 

Maybe I was just raised differently then, because even at 15 I didn't think that way.

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Maybe I was just raised differently then, because even at 15 I didn't think that way.

 

 

 

I agree, I don't give a f*ck about high numbers either but a lot of men do

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It reads like the PUA ideas to develop "inner game".

 

Example: "scarcity mentality".

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verhrzn Established Member

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This is pretty damn derogatory towards men V.

 

How so? You see a lot of those same opinions on this forum, in thread after thread. Is it derogatory to point out that a lot of "unsuccessful guys" believe those statements?

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Women as a whole have the power, they're the sellers we're the buyers in this market, it's that simple.

 

 

http://www.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf

 

If women are the sellers and men are the buyers, then that is actually the opposite of women having power.... Women may have something of value, but the power lies with the consumer in an economic setting. Men choose what is considered valuable... Which is why several posters and the author make the point that when men say "Women have the power," they really mean "Women who are really hot and I want to sleep with have the power."

 

Women who are considered undesirable do not have the power in dating world, by your article, because they are not selling anything of value.

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women on the whole don’t approach casual sex the way that men do; they’re not looking for how quickly they can find a pole for the hole, they’re looking for someone who excites them and can provide the sex they want.

 

The author of the article sounds inexperienced.

Statements I have heard from three dates where I held off on moving in for sex:

"So how long did it take you to decide to kiss me?"

"Come on, you're smart!"

"Well it's 4 AM...."

 

Girls want it just as much as guys do but they have to be more covert about it; otherwise they are labeled derogatory terms. It takes a true man to break through the BS and give it to her without both parties involved feeling like sleazebags. The only "power" that you give people in this world is whatever you give to them. In dating and in life.

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Woggle Established Member

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This article seems like the flip side of the let's blame women for everything mentality. Anybody blaming an entire gender for the situation we have today in the dating world is way off.

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Emilia Established Member

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My response was pretty well thought out and reasonable. :confused:

 

You were probably the only one my response wasn't aimed at :)

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If women are the sellers and men are the buyers, then that is actually the opposite of women having power.... Women may have something of value, but the power lies with the consumer in an economic setting. Men choose what is considered valuable... Which is why several posters and the author make the point that when men say "Women have the power," they really mean "Women who are really hot and I want to sleep with have the power."

 

Women who are considered undesirable do not have the power in dating world, by your article, because they are not selling anything of value.

 

 

I could understand if those women were "cast aside" but there still in a better position then the unnactractive male. The Problem with that is even undesirable or unnattractive women still Vaginas and thats ALWAYS valuable. Its very simple, at the end of the day women have the more valued sexual organ. Chris rock said it best(I know he's a comedian)

 

P***** costs money, d*** is free.

 

And it's the truth

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This article seems like the flip side of the let's blame women for everything mentality. Anybody blaming an entire gender for the situation we have today in the dating world is way off.

 

 

 

I thought it was a fantastic article, very balanced and reasonable

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