ptp Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I'm 23. Why would it make you feel sad? Surely it should encourage all guys who are/were in a similar position . I never thought I would lose it in a casual sex scenario however (although every guy I know speculated that this was the best and most likely way I would lose it), but it was still a good experience. I'm sure you and all others will be able to get something from my posts. Sure if you PM us her OKC profile? 1
ascendotum Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Why would it make you feel sad? Surely it should encourage all guys who are/were in a similar position . I never thought I would lose it in a casual sex scenario however (although every guy I know speculated that this was the best and most likely way I would lose it), but it was still a good experience. A number of them could likely have tried OLD, but weren't fortunate enough to have girls contact them, flirt and then ask them to meet that night for sex, let alone cute ones. I lost my V to a ONS to a promiscious girl at a party. She was sweet and I have good memories of her. The term slut still gets used a lot though things are different these days compared to the past. Girls being open about dating lots of guys and just having fun (wink wink) was not that common say even 20 yrs ago let alone my parents generation, and the term has been around a long time. imo she is and a fun loving one and she admitted to it. It depends on the venom behind the term as to if a derogatory put down, or more of a descriptive term. 1
kaylan Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Can we stop referring to people as 'loose' or 'skanky' or 'slutty' if they enjoy sex and want to have it regularly on a no strings attached basis? Not everyone has to have a romantic attachment to have sex, and as long as everyone is honest and safe, there's nothing wrong with it. Party on. Its not about liking sex and enjoying it regularly. Its about this girls risky sexual behavior and the fact that it seems like a pattern of hers. Gang bangs and messaging men online for immediate sex? How is that not skanky? Get over it. If she enjoyed sex a lot yet didnt do those things in particular, then I wouldnt brand her the way I have. 1
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 A number of them could likely have tried OLD, but weren't fortunate enough to have girls contact them, flirt and then ask them to meet that night for sex, let alone cute ones. I get that, but in some cases they aren't even on OLD. I get that I was lucky to a large extent. But I could easily have messed it up if I didn't know what I was doing. The stuff I've been posting about what I do, how I know how to do it, the links I've been busy PMing to people that nobody seems to download etc.....that's what I want to encourage the guys. No doubt I'll hear lots of "but you're tall/good looking/some other external feature". But honestly, you can be tall, good looking and even rich on top of that - and still be bad with women like I was not too long ago. I still had stuff to learn, and the same stuff I'm learning, other guys can use to get to where I'm heading - which is hopefully a fulfilling relationship. Likely not with this girl () but hopefully somewhere down the line. I've at least shown that my attitude has helped me, even if I got a little lucky - I at least put myself in the position and understood what I had to do in the advent of luck or fate or whatever it is you believe in shining on me. I lost my V to a ONS to a promiscious girl at a party. She was sweet and I have good memories of her. The term slut still gets used a lot though things are different these days compared to the past. Girls being open about dating lots of guys and just having fun (wink wink) was not that common say even 20 yrs ago let alone my parents generation, and the term has been around a long time. imo she is and a fun loving one and she admitted to it. It depends on the venom behind the term as to if a derogatory put down, or more of a descriptive term. I agree with this. In my immediate environment, those girls are called "battery chicks" or "sores". I don't use those words, I always treat people well. And I find these girls whenever I have spoken to them, are actually really cool to be around - like, if they weren't so promiscuous you would actually date them. They are far from bitches most of them. They are more honest than some of the girls who pretend or delude themselves that they don't get around - and even them, I don't show them disrespect. It harms my own character in my opinion to do so.
Eclypse Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Well the last 10 or so pages of this thread have degenerated in a pretty bad way, but I think a congratulations is in order. I still remember my first time, and it was special also. It's the sort of thing you'll remember fondly for the rest of your life if done right. Unfortunately some people just rush into it and it ends up being crap. It's good that you waited until you felt you were ready
Emilia Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Whaaat? Dude, unless you're a teenager looking to score, you need to get outta mommy's house before you go looking for casual encounters. hahahaha you have a lot of catching up to do regarding the OP
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Sure if you PM us her OKC profile? Why does it matter so much what she looks like? So that you can either say, "wow good job man, she's got huge boobs" or so you can tear her down? "Oh wow she isn't that hot at all." Why does it matter os much to a few of the other guys here what a woman looks like that some guy, you only know over a message board, is sleeping with?
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 Why does it matter so much what she looks like? So that you can either say, "wow good job man, she's got huge boobs" or so you can tear her down? "Oh wow she isn't that hot at all." Why does it matter os much to a few of the other guys here what a woman looks like that some guy, you only know over a message board, is sleeping with? I think he was joking 4
Els Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Can we stop referring to people as 'loose' or 'skanky' or 'slutty' if they enjoy sex and want to have it regularly on a no strings attached basis? Not everyone has to have a romantic attachment to have sex, and as long as everyone is honest and safe, there's nothing wrong with it. Party on. I completely agree. Why the negative judgement towards the girl in particular? She wanted it, the OP wanted it. If she's a 'skank', he is too (which I don't believe he is). Sex is an act entered into by two people. If a girl offers sex on the first meeting and the guy takes her up on it, why only judge her? Personally, casual sex really isn't my cup of tea, but I fail to see the need to point out what a 'skank' she is. Yeah, she's into casual sex. And so is the OP. They had fun and were completely honest with each other. What's the issue here?
veggirl Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Seriously I don't think anyone "judged" this girl solely for having sex. Where did anyone say that she was a slut or a skank or nasty or whatever just for having sex? It was the total of the situation, at least for me anyway. So, yeah I think I listed in a previous post why I at least made comments about "this girl in particular". And really I don't think I am one of the judgemental about sex folks on LS Again people attacked 49 negatively for being a virgin, but no one took issue with that. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Again people attacked 49 negatively for being a virgin, but no one took issue with that. Actually, someone did. Bottom line, for me, is that I think we (as a society) need to move to a place where a person's sexual behavior does not EVER earn them a lower place in society, disparaging names, etc. I'm talking about straight ahead SEXUAL behavior (as opposed to infidelity, putting oneself or others at risk with unsafe practices, etc). I don't want to include the idea of "morals" with regular old sex anymore. I think it's time to move beyond that. I don't do casual sex. I made some efforts in that direction when I was young and it was absolutely not for me. I can't let myself go that way with someone I don't have many other connections with. But I think it's fine, and not morally wrong. 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 But I think it's fine, and not morally wrong. Good for you. I disagree though and will always make moral judgements on the actions of others, including their attitudes about sex. I'm flexible on a lot of things, but being careful about who you have sex with (both males and females) is something that I personally attach moral importance to. I respect your right to disagree and I don't wish to force anyone to agree with me except through reason and persuasion.
Bristolius Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Wholigan, why the constant assurance that you'll never have a long term relationship with her? Is there something wrong with her that's not wrong with you?
Bristolius Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Actually, someone did. Bottom line, for me, is that I think we (as a society) need to move to a place where a person's sexual behavior does not EVER earn them a lower place in society, disparaging names, etc. I'm talking about straight ahead SEXUAL behavior (as opposed to infidelity, putting oneself or others at risk with unsafe practices, etc). I don't want to include the idea of "morals" with regular old sex anymore. I think it's time to move beyond that. I don't do casual sex. I made some efforts in that direction when I was young and it was absolutely not for me. I can't let myself go that way with someone I don't have many other connections with. But I think it's fine, and not morally wrong. People like the idea of transcendent morality because it's easy. Working out ethical behavior takes thinking and imagination.
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Wholigan, why the constant assurance that you'll never have a long term relationship with her? Is there something wrong with her that's not wrong with you? Not particularly, she just doesn't want one. I'm not averse to dating a girl who's had casual sex (although I'd imagine I'd be in for some stick, but I'm a big boy and I can take it). Nor do I look down on her for it. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with her, she just likes f*cking . I'm ultimately after something more long term - and she isn't. I'm happy to have something casual in the mean time though. Edited August 3, 2012 by ThaWholigan 2
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 Yous a hoe! It was my first time, gimme a break! 2
KungFuJoe Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Wow. I don't frequent the dating section too often so I missed this. So you finally popped your cherry....congrats! She sounds like a fun girl...if this were back in my single days I would SO envy you. I still remember my first time. My gf was leaving my place as my friend was walking in and she said, "omg I cant walk right!!" or something like that. After she was out the door, friend and I just fist bumped. No words were necessary. 1
nessaaa Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 It was my first time, gimme a break! Nooooooo u actually did it!!! Why would u put ur sweet dick in...ughhhhhhhhhhh *stumps out of thread*
SmileFace Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Seriously I don't think anyone "judged" this girl solely for having sex. Where did anyone say that she was a slut or a skank or nasty or whatever just for having sex? It was the total of the situation, at least for me anyway. So, yeah I think I listed in a previous post why I at least made comments about "this girl in particular". And really I don't think I am one of the judgemental about sex folks on LS Again people attacked 49 negatively for being a virgin, but no one took issue with that. Actually I attacked his continues bitching not because in fact that he is a virgin. The who was a virgin before this and I have had no problem with his opinion.
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Actually I attacked his continues bitching not because in fact that he is a virgin. The who was a virgin before this and I have had no problem with his opinion. When did I bitch and moan? You do realize all you're doing is feeding my martyr's complex right? :laugh:
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 3, 2012 Author Posted August 3, 2012 Nooooooo u actually did it!!! Why would u put ur sweet dick in...ughhhhhhhhhhh *stumps out of thread* Sorry It's funny - all my brothers were right, this was exactly how I was going to lose my virginity .
nessaaa Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Sorry It's funny - all my brothers were right, this was exactly how I was going to lose my virginity . So how was it, was it everything u expected? One minute man or?
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 People like the idea of transcendent morality because it's easy. Working out ethical behavior takes thinking and imagination. So, what is your stance? That sexual promiscuity can be immoral or unethical?That it's "easy" to include the sexual behavior of other people in ones own moral code or that it takes thinking and imagination? I'm not quite sure what the "idea of transcendent morality" is. If a person does not believe that our moral code is directly spelled out in the Bible or taught in religious education, does this equate to "transcendent morality"?
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