mesmerized Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I've met so many girls who have done it. I know so much guys who have been part of it. My brother's been in a few. He nearly shat himself when it emerged that one of the girls "escaped", and he wasn't so sure she was there willingly after he heard that. Never did it again. He was lucky he only got his pole shined. He tried to get me to go to a few, I always said no . I digress, it's true, a lot of girls have done it, and quite a few like it. This girl is no different, I've met a few girls like her. She's not a bitch though - to be honest, the loose girls I know and have met have actually been some of the least bitchy girls I've known. I'm only against it if the girl is doing it for reasons other than enjoying herself. If she is doing it for validation/money/etc I think it's not healthy. 3
kaylan Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Either way, you're being judgmental, and so is everyone else who thinks the way you do (no offense). Sexuality is fluid. Who gives a crap what you or anyone thinks about Wholigan, the girl, or your good chick friend or the skanky frat boy? Let people be and do what they choose to do. Until there's a problem, it's all good. Part of why people care is because sexual risky behavior spreads disease and gets people pregnant. If it werent for STDs and unwanted pregnancy, Id care less about promiscuity. Wasnt it all the rage in the 60s before people wised up about all these diseases and the rise in preggerz? Edited August 2, 2012 by kaylan 1
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 2, 2012 Author Posted August 2, 2012 Well put. Lots of people get squeamish about the "slut" word, but sometimes it can have a specific meaning in a specific circumstance. Not just a word for all women who aren't virgins. I don't see anything wrong with what 49322 said honestly, in fact I kinda get annoyed with the implication some posters have that all men are horndogs. Stereotypes suck, but don't throw stones if you live in a glass house haha. Ironically, so do I :lmao:
It's Just Me Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Part of why people care is because sexual risky behavior spreads disease and gets people pregnant. If it werent for STDs and unwanted pregnancy, Id care less about promiscuity. Wasnt it all the rage in the 60s before people wised up about all these diseases and the rise in preggerz? He's already said that he's used a condom. NOT that it's any of our business - it's his. This thread was about him getting some action and he got it, and he's sharing his happiness. Leave it BE.
kaylan Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 He's already said that he's used a condom. NOT that it's any of our business - it's his. This thread was about him getting some action and he got it' date=' and he's sharing his happiness. Leave it BE. [/quote'] And if you saw my post addressing the condom, people dont use condoms for oral...like ever really. So lets be real. Again...people are just telling homeboy to be safe about a girl who gets around.
veggirl Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Well put. Lots of people get squeamish about the "slut" word, but sometimes it can have a specific meaning in a specific circumstance. Not just a word for all women who aren't virgins. I don't see anything wrong with what 49322 said honestly, in fact I kinda get annoyed with the implication some posters have that all men are horndogs. Stereotypes suck, but don't throw stones if you live in a glass house haha. I agree with this 100%. Everyone is up in arms because a couple posters dare ~judge~ a girl who: mentions gang bangs in a first meet calls herself a slut asked W to meet her for sex during their first convo asked him if he wanted to go BAREBACK during their first meet! COME ON. Really, everyone getting their undies in a twist over the word "slut" being used in that circumstance. I'm sorry. I have been called slutty, when I was freaking BEING slutty. Yeah it can go both ways. I think it's pretty squick on both ends. If a friend came to me from either W's side or the girls, I would be like "....really..?" so I guess at least I'm not a hypocrite again, good thing W is so well-liked. A random guy posting a story about he fked a girl would be getting "why are you bragging? gross, you hate women" lol. 3
MrCastle Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 This thread needs to see some sort of resolution. We have tapped its full potential. They met, they banged. He's happy. She's happy. End of. How this went off course into racism land is beyond me. And who cares if the girl was easy or not. The deed is done and he used protection. Did you want him to use a hazmat suit or something? He did all he could. Where else can we take this thread? Nowhere! 3
aj22one Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Did you want him to use a hazmat suit or something? He did all he could. Nah. A full body condom like Det. Drebin. haha
MrCastle Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Nah. A full body condom like Det. Drebin. haha LMAO. I was picturing something more along the suits Walter White and Jesse Pinkman wear in Breaking Bad.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 First of all I never "high fived" anyone. I've had friends in the past who hooked up with some random girl. Whenever they tried to talk/brag about it I either told them straight up I didn't want to hear it or I tuned them out and acted annoyed. Well that's really commandable 49. I really respect that. Secondly, I hold the OP to the same standard as the girl in this situation. The only difference of course (which I was referring to in the post of mine you quoted) is that she propositioned him. That to me, is questionable behavior, even it was done by the OP. And I don't disagree. I just don't think calling someone a name is the right way to express your opinion. I do agree that her behavior is indicative of being questionable for his own personal sexual history. I jsut don't see where she deserves being called a name. 1
MrCastle Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I think what should happen is, this young lady should be dragged in front of the town square and shamed. People can laugh at her, call her names, speak their peace. When that's done they beat to death with a stick. We'll then tie Who up and burn his dick off to get rid of any venomous diseases the woman has given to him. This will all be followed up with a parade through the town. Women and children alike will laugh and sing through the streets. 4
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Anyways I think the reason OP is being hi fived is because he doesnt have the history of risky sexual behavior and possible gang bangs she does. If the sexes were reversed Id feel the same. Please, if a nother guy posted this and he was as likable as Wholigan and not a virgin, guys would be high fiving him left and right. I think it's kind of sad how much men tie their personal worth in sex though to be hoenst. To the extent that it makes other guys high five him for his "accomplishment". Although I don't see why it's considered an "accomplishment". Because a woman finally let you stick it in her? But then you (just a figuretive you) go around calling her a slut? Doesn't that kidn of seem like self loathing? You will sleep with someone you will call names for sleeping with you? I wouldnt use cum bucket...thats a bit much. But Im sorry...she is an overly promiscuous and albeit easy gal. The kind of gal Id use for sex and not date. If you dont want me to use the S words, then Ill spell it out. Again, the old double standard. You will sleep with a girl but not date her but believe that you are "date" material when it comes to a woman of your choice. Despite engaging in the same behavior she did. Unfortunetly, future woman of "datable" status will have no idea how you treated women prior to her where you decided she was prim enough for your rsepect to date. And theres nothing wrong with enjoying sex....Im just saying it raises eyebrows when a girl meets guys online the night of the first message to try and have sex, and then later says something about possible gang bangs. and in that whole paragraph, you totally left out the part about a man meeting a girl online and having sex with her on the first meeting. Yet men do this all the time and other men don't bat an eye. They just push all their shame on the woman. Women here would think the same of a guy who did what this girl did. You think girls here would be speaking highly of a guy who messages women for sex, and then talks about possible threesomes and calls himself a whore? I guarantee women here would have called him the words slut or skank, and no one would bat an eye. Not at all. But usually women don't sleep with or even meet those men. What bothers me is when men call women sluts yet sleep with them anyway and think their behavior is better then the woman's where she isn't "date" material but he somehow will be for another woman. All in all, I say let OP have his fun. Let him use the girl for what he wants, and she will do the same. Why does it have to be about "using"? Why can't they just enjoy each other, have fun even if they don't want to be more serious without it meaning they are "using" each other? 2
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I've met so many girls who have done it. I know so much guys who have been part of it. My brother's been in a few. He nearly shat himself when it emerged that one of the girls "escaped", and he wasn't so sure she was there willingly after he heard that. Never did it again. He was lucky he only got his pole shined. He tried to get me to go to a few, I always said no . I digress, it's true, a lot of girls have done it, and quite a few like it. This girl is no different, I've met a few girls like her. She's not a bitch though - to be honest, the loose girls I know and have met have actually been some of the least bitchy girls I've known. What? gangbangs can't be that normal???????? Maybe I am naive but I wonder how "normal" gangbangs are.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I think what should happen is, this young lady should be dragged in front of the town square and shamed. People can laugh at her, call her names, speak their peace. When that's done they beat to death with a stick. We'll then tie Who up and burn his dick off to get rid of any venomous diseases the woman has given to him. This will all be followed up with a parade through the town. Women and children alike will laugh and sing through the streets. They could sing a little diddy like this: Penis Penis, there you go Into the fire, where you glow No more germs to fester there No more sex for the rest of your years! (doesn't totally rhyme but kind of...) 1
MrCastle Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Remember back a page or so I mentioned this thread had ups and downs? We're now on the upswing. They could sing a little diddy like this: Penis Penis, there you go Into the fire, where you glow No more germs to fester there No more sex for the rest of your years! (doesn't totally rhyme but kind of...) No more grimey 'giney! No more slimey hiney! The slut is dead, she's put to rest No more horror, no more stress 1
kaylan Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I agree with this 100%. Everyone is up in arms because a couple posters dare ~judge~ a girl who: mentions gang bangs in a first meet calls herself a slut asked W to meet her for sex during their first convo asked him if he wanted to go BAREBACK during their first meet! COME ON. Really, everyone getting their undies in a twist over the word "slut" being used in that circumstance. I'm sorry. I have been called slutty, when I was freaking BEING slutty. Yeah it can go both ways. I think it's pretty squick on both ends. If a friend came to me from either W's side or the girls, I would be like "....really..?" so I guess at least I'm not a hypocrite again, good thing W is so well-liked. A random guy posting a story about he fked a girl would be getting "why are you bragging? gross, you hate women" lol. 100% agree. If any of the other virgins on this site did this, I dont feel they would have gotten as warm of a response. All and all I proud of homeboy. Layin' pipe, oh so right.
kaylan Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Please, if a nother guy posted this and he was as likable as Wholigan and not a virgin, guys would be high fiving him left and right. I think it's kind of sad how much men tie their personal worth in sex though to be hoenst. To the extent that it makes other guys high five him for his "accomplishment". Although I don't see why it's considered an "accomplishment". Because a woman finally let you stick it in her? But then you (just a figuretive you) go around calling her a slut? Doesn't that kidn of seem like self loathing? You will sleep with someone you will call names for sleeping with you? Highly doubtful. Do you see how most posters respond to guys who have had skanky chicks? Most people will be like "and whats the big deal? shes easy" But in OPs case hes come a long way...and is exploring his sexuality for the first time. So props to him. Women and men tie their worth to sex...so dont act like just guys do it. Humans are sexual creatures...so it is what it is. Hes crossed into manhood. Let him enjoy it. Again, the old double standard. You will sleep with a girl but not date her but believe that you are "date" material when it comes to a woman of your choice. Despite engaging in the same behavior she did. Unfortunetly, future woman of "datable" status will have no idea how you treated women prior to her where you decided she was prim enough for your rsepect to date. Its not a double standard. I dont deem her as a compatible mate, but it doesnt mean Im not attracted to her. How am I engaging in the same behavior as the girl in question? Im not judging the girl about her simply hooking up with me. Im judging her entire sexual and personal history with men. I wouldnt date a girl like the one OP encountered. Thats NOT me at all saying I wouldnt date a girl for having casual sex with me. Having casual sex doesnt make someone not date-able. However, showing a history of very risky sexual behavior like the girl in the OP does make her not date-able. And no, I didnt engage in the same historical behavior as her. I dont do gang bangs and meet women online for sex. So let me repeat....Im not judging her based on her hook up with me, but on her TOTAL sexual and personal history with men. and in that whole paragraph, you totally left out the part about a man meeting a girl online and having sex with her on the first meeting. Yet men do this all the time and other men don't bat an eye. They just push all their shame on the woman. Do you never read my posts on this forum? I am always telling dudes not to put the puzzy on a pedestal. I do bat an eye at questionable sexual behavior in men all the time. So spare me. The reason Im not blasting OP, is because hes just now figuring out sex, and he doesnt have a history of risky behavior. If the sexes were reversed Id feel the same. I cant fault him for enjoying a few flings, however the girl sounds like she does nothing but have risky flings. Not at all. But usually women don't sleep with or even meet those men. What bothers me is when men call women sluts yet sleep with them anyway and think their behavior is better then the woman's where she isn't "date" material but he somehow will be for another woman. Not at all? Lmao...youre kidding me right? I can find 10 examples on this thread right now of a woman sexing a guy right away and getting props from the women, and I can find 10 examples of a guy with a skanky background getting called out for it by the women here. Lets be real. Some people are dating material, and some are just hook up material. Both men and women do this. So lets stop the crying. Not everyone fits into both categories. I dont mind that some women wanna bang me and not date me...it can suck sometimes but it happens. Youre not compatible with everyone. Why does it have to be about "using"? Why can't they just enjoy each other, have fun even if they don't want to be more serious without it meaning they are "using" each other? You are reading into the word 'use' too much. Its what they are doing. There is no friendship, barely any dialogue, and its all about sex. So I see them as using each other for fun sexy times. No biggie. Now if they were friends I may have worded it different...but for now...its booty calls status.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Remember back a page or so I mentioned this thread had ups and downs? We're now on the upswing. No more grimey 'giney! No more slimey hiney! The slut is dead, she's put to rest No more horror, no more stress You brought it down again by using slut. Took the fun out of it.
MrCastle Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 You brought it down again by using slut. Took the fun out of it. Damnit. You're right. I am so ashamed. (Note: He was supposed to act disappointed. Not read the stage directions.) 2
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Damnit. You're right. I am so ashamed. (Note: He was supposed to act disappointed. Not read the stage directions.) Lol. Good one.
Emilia Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I actually agree with this. Well, except the last part. Girl might be loose, and I'm not making her my GF - but she's cool as hell, I actually enjoyed myself. But yeah, I don't think anyone else would have gotten as much of a reception, but that's likely because it's been a long time coming. Honestly, I hope that the others in my position can take heart and go forth and do what they can. I've come a very long way, and I'm nowhere far yet, but I've reached this particular point where I could facilitate such a thing happening - even with a girl this loose. Contrary to what a lot of people think, "loose" women ARE picky to an extent, they won't just have sex with anyone. So this is something of a revelation for me, and hopefully for guys in my position who are reading this. You are one of the most decent guys I have ever had the pleasure interacting with online I have to say. How you keep so cool and level headed with all the BS thrown around at times, I'll never know. I'm very pleased you are conquering your demons and anyone that says otherwise can go and f*** themselves 6
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 2, 2012 Author Posted August 2, 2012 You are one of the most decent guys I have ever had the pleasure interacting with online I have to say. How you keep so cool and level headed with all the BS thrown around at times, I'll never know. I'm very pleased you are conquering your demons and anyone that says otherwise can go and f*** themselves Many thanks , much appreciated ---------------------------------------------------------------- Today has been very serene and calm, feels quite good. Although I have a bit of a migraine which is annoying. Yesterday was fun, and I didn't place a great deal of importance on it which is probably why it went so well. It was an "in the moment" thing mostly. Likely because I'd already been sexual with the girl, it was a little easier. But one thing that I've definitely learned is that one has to be absolutely in the moment. I didn't think about what I had to say, I just enjoyed talking to her in the moment. I also didn't think about what I was doing when we were getting steamy, I just enjoyed her body and focused on her pleasure. I feel that this was very important in the build-up to yesterday - overthinking your conversations with women will hamper you in the long run. You gotta have fun with it, experiment a little, throw in some risque comments here and there if you feel like it at the time.
Ross MwcFan Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Congrats on things going well for you. I can't really read about it though because I know it'll make me feel sad. Out of curiosity, how old are you?
Author ThaWholigan Posted August 2, 2012 Author Posted August 2, 2012 Congrats on things going well for you. I can't really read about it though because I know it'll make me feel sad. Out of curiosity, how old are you? I'm 23. Why would it make you feel sad? Surely it should encourage all guys who are/were in a similar position . I never thought I would lose it in a casual sex scenario however (although every guy I know speculated that this was the best and most likely way I would lose it), but it was still a good experience. I'm sure you and all others will be able to get something from my posts.
proseandpassion Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Can we stop referring to people as 'loose' or 'skanky' or 'slutty' if they enjoy sex and want to have it regularly on a no strings attached basis? Not everyone has to have a romantic attachment to have sex, and as long as everyone is honest and safe, there's nothing wrong with it. Party on. 7
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